Legend of Zelda Offical The Legend of Zelda Thread

[Scarecrow_King]

Majora's Mask will run on the old 3DS right? I assume it will, but none of the articles I've read seem to mention it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, it will. At this point in time, the only software exclusive to the New 3DS hardware is Xenoblade Chronicles. Everything else released and announced will still play on older hardware.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Awesome thanks. Shame about xenoblade, I'd like to play that but I'm not gonna pay for a new 3ds when my old one works just fine.

 

[Benstamania]

I look at it this way...people pay money, big money.. To upgrade a PC every few years. That's how I look at the new 3DS. It's faster, games will look better, etc. I mean if people don't want to upgrade that's more than fine.. But I feel it's a fairly decent comparison.. And really, I expect NEW 3DS only games to hit fairly quick.

 

[Benstamania]

Also apparently Best Buy could be offering up to 120 bucks trace credit. Not sure if that's true...

 

[Tron Bonne]

I honestly doubt there will be many New 3DS exclusives.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I do find Xenoblade kind of an odd choice. I mean, why not a Mario or a Zelda game?

Is the average kid going to want one of these for a relatively little known JRPG?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Also apparently Best Buy could be offering up to 120 bucks trace credit. Not sure if that's true...

Trace credit?

 

[Tron Bonne]

I do find Xenoblade kind of an odd choice. I mean, why not a Mario or a Zelda game?

I mean, is the average kid going to want one of these for a relatively little known JRPG?

JRPGs in general have pretty much migrated to handhelds, with the 3DS being the primary system for them, so it makes sense in that regard. Plus, as far as NA is concerned, it being a GS exclusive has made the Wii version hard to find, so that may be part of it.

I'm sure they're also thinking that the exposure from Smash and the marketing push of the sequel will also put a new light on it.

 

[Benstamania]

Trace credit?

Phone hands. Trade*

 

[Benstamania]

I honestly doubt there will be many New 3DS exclusives.

I don't..and it doesn't even have to be a lot. Put a Mario Kart title or generally any of their games (Zelda, Mario, etc) and that's all they really need. It would be smart.. Push the system and phase the other one out.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't..and it doesn't even have to be a lot. Put a Mario Kart title or generally any of their games (Zelda, Mario, etc) and that's all they really need. It would be smart.. Push the system and phase the other one out.

That's assuming that they are treating the New 3DS as a totally new console and not a revision. Considering how they didn't even launch it with the single piece of software they announced as exclusive for it (and announced a new Fire Emblem that isn't exclusive directly afterward), I think this is obviously much more akin to the DSi. If they had planned this as a new console like the GBC they would've launched more exclusive software with it, probably made Majora's Mask 3D exclusive at the very least.

 

[Benstamania]

Yeah.. I don't see it as the next step.. But a half step before the next step in the hand held generation. I just see them pushing more exclusive games. Maybe not all.. But I could see them making core franchise games "exclusive" or at least getting exclusive content.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Fans would cry foul though. Majora's Mask is an N64 game, and the port can easily be handled by the current 3DS. Maybe if they hadn't done Ocarina of Time they could have gotten away with that.

Twilight Princess seems like the easiest way to port a popular Zelda game without having to do a lot of work, or piss off 3DS owners.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah.. I don't see it as the next step.. But a half step before the next step in the hand held generation. I just see them pushing more exclusive games. Maybe not all.. But I could see them making core franchise games "exclusive" or at least getting exclusive content.

I'd be surprised if there will a mainline Zelda or Mario or Pokemon exclusive. They aren't going to risk releasing something like that on a revision. Exclusive features are a given, though, especially with amiibo stuff built-in.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Fans would cry foul though. Majora's Mask is an N64 game, and the port can easily be handled by the current 3DS. Maybe if they hadn't done Ocarina of Time they could have gotten away with that.

Twilight Princess seems like the easiest way to port a popular Zelda game without having to do a lot of work, or piss off 3DS owners.

So what? They're going to call foul on it regardless, people are already calling foul on any software being exclusive. You're going to step on toes no matter how you'd go about doing it.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well cry foul, and lose sales. If Majora's Mask is exclusive then only ...a few hundred thousand (if that) people will buy it. If it's not, all of them can buy it, and the 40 odd million people who have regular 3DS'.

What they should do is port a very popular game that only the New 3DS can play, like say Mario Galaxy, or Twilight Princess. That way people actually feel like they're getting their money's worth out of a new console.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well cry foul, and lose sales. If Majora's Mask is exclusive then only ...a few hundred thousand (if that) people will buy it. If it's not, all of them can buy it, and the 40 odd million people who have regular 3DS'

This works both ways, regardless of what title we're talking about. The overall point is that if you're going to treat this as a new console as opposed to a revision, they are going to need a lot more exclusive software than a single game that didn't even launch with the hardware.

 

[Benstamania]

Gamers tend to cry foul about everything. They have an option.. Upgrade or don't. I hated that the entire first year of PS4/XB1 life games were being dumbed down because by lands they can't upset the old gen fans.

Same here.. Upgrade.. Or don't.. But if they miss out on something awesome because they didn't.. Then that's their fault. Not the fault of Nintendo or those that upgraded. I don't think the new 3DS is going to be held back by Old 3DS.. But I just detest the whole cry baby attitude gamers have.

It's not like Nintendo revisions are a new thing.. And if they start getting games that the old 3DS can't handle then more power to Nintendo to push that.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Except that making Majora's Mask exclusive to the New 3DS would be a legitimate reason to get pissed.

There's being a crybaby, and then there's being legitimately screwed over (hello, Activision and Ubisoft). But since that didn't happen here, I'll leave it at that.

 

[spiderman2]

Fans would cry foul though. Majora's Mask is an N64 game, and the port can easily be handled by the current 3DS. Maybe if they hadn't done Ocarina of Time they could have gotten away with that.

Twilight Princess seems like the easiest way to port a popular Zelda game without having to do a lot of work, or piss off 3DS owners.

Twilight princess needs to be remade for wii u not 3ds. 3Ds has now gotten 2 remade Zelda games and wii u only 1.

 

[spiderman2]

I honestly doubt there will be many New 3DS exclusives.

Agree there is no reason that a game on 3ds shouldn't be able to play on 3ds. New 3ds is not even really a new system the system is not way way stronger like when you go form ps3 to ps4 or something. Most people that buy new 3ds are going to be people that don't have an 3ds. Most people who have a 3ds already are not going to buy a new 3ds.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I think Twilight Princess is a sure-in for a HD remaster. It may be a while (similar to how it took a long time between OOT 3D and MM 3D), but they already did Wind Waker, which was successful, and I think they even said at one point they did the testing ground work for TP first. And I would definitley rather have that then a 3DS dortport. There's plenty of N64 games that could be remade, and that's more suited to the hardware.

Gamers tend to cry foul about everything. They have an option.. Upgrade or don't. I hated that the entire first year of PS4/XB1 life games were being dumbed down because by lands they can't upset the old gen fans.

Same here.. Upgrade.. Or don't.. But if they miss out on something awesome because they didn't.. Then that's their fault. Not the fault of Nintendo or those that upgraded. I don't think the new 3DS is going to be held back by Old 3DS.. But I just detest the whole cry baby attitude gamers have.

It's not like Nintendo revisions are a new thing.. And if they start getting games that the old 3DS can't handle then more power to Nintendo to push that.

Eh, to be fair, I don't think that had anything to do with upsetting fans, that was all about money. Easier to port things, much less effort and money to create new games, and games have such huge budgets nowadays, it just made sense. And considering how weak most early software is, it probably worked out for the best to port solid titles instead of creating forgettable ones that probably wouldn't have sold well to begin with.

I also don't think it's a comparable situation. Those are new consoles, this is a revision that's slightly more powerful than the last. I doubt it's much different powerwise than the DSi was to the DS. The main thing is probably just the upgraded CPU.

 

[Benstamania]

It's much..muuuuch faster.. Which could mean more than graphics.

 

[Tron Bonne]

It's much..muuuuch faster.. Which could mean more than graphics.

So was the DSi in comparison to the DS. It's helpful to several things, but again, a step up to the point of a new handheld? Very doubtful. I mean, look, the exclusive game is a Wii port. We already had a Wii downport in the form of Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D. Xenoblade is a bigger game, but we're still talking about a game in the same power range.

All you have to do is look how they've actually marketing the N3DS to see what it is. I do think we'll probably see a few more exclusive titles, but I think it's clear they are treating this as a souped up revision and not a totally new piece of hardware.