Ant-Man Official Ant-Man Spoiler Discussion Thread

EDIT: Sorry, I posted this here before I noticed the Reviews thread!

ANT-MAN is another success from Marvel Studios, which has now gotten to the point where it can seemingly pump out solid blockbusters in its sleep. This one is noteworthy in that much of it doesn't particularly feel like a Marvel movie, boasting an aesthetic all its own. In a lot of ways, there are flourishes and story beats where you can really feel this film's origins as an Edgar Wright project. And there is a certain ghost that hangs over ANT-MAN where, as good as it is, is there an Edgar Wright ANT-MAN out there in a parallel universe somewhere that's even better? But that doesn't detract too much from the enjoyment of what is a deeply fun, inventive film.

Paul Rudd plays Scott Lang, a down-on-his-luck ex-con who dons the Ant-Man suit to stop the technology of Hank Pym (Michael Douglas, seemingly having the most fun he's had in a film in ages) finding its way into the wrong hands. Paul Rudd is one of the movie's big strengths. His natural charisma is perhaps more downplayed here than Robert Downey Jr's Iron Man or Chris Pratt's Star-Lord, but his inherent likeability shines through to make Scott Lang one of Marvel's most relatable heroes. Some Marvel Cinematic Universe enthusiasts might have wondered what place there was for Ant-Man in this shared universe, but Rudd gives Lang a blue-collar charm that marks out his own niche, with his relationship with his daughter making him even more sympathetic.

On the other side of the coin, if you were to tell me a couple of months ago that Darren Cross would be a more frightening Marvel villain than Ultron, I would likely have laughed in your face, but credit to Corey Stoll, he pulls it off. He has the corporate sleazebag routine I was expecting down pat, but under that veneer he also portrays a chilling psychopath one perceived slight short of snapping, all brimming rage and resentment, making him an often uncomfortable screen presence and quickly marking him out as one of the more memorable villains in the Marvel filmography. The supporting cast is filled out by a solid performance from Evangeline Lilly as Hope Van Dyne, and show-stealing turns from Michael Pena and co as Scott Lang's goofy sidekicks.

The movie as a whole is very good, but what elevates it into the great territory for me is the climactic action set-piece. All through the movie, the shrinking effects are magnificently executed, all the more impressive in immersive 3D IMAX, and it adds a new twist to an old genre to turn this into as thrilling a heist film as it is a superhero film. But director Peyton Reed really cuts loose and shows his chops once we get into the closing fight, filled with people and objects shrinking and growing, and the kinetic camera work keeping you on the edge of your seat. Plus, refreshingly (and appropriately, given the title), rather than going bigger like Marvel always seems to do in its third act, the climax here goes smaller, more personal, to great effect.

ANT-MAN wasn't a movie I was particularly anticipating, which is unusual, given how much I tend to be hyped for all the Marvel films. But I ended up enjoying it a great deal. Top notch summer movie fun!
 
So, we know that Mitchell Carson was working with Howard Stark in SHIELD in 1989, and that later in the film he's shown with HYDRA. Given what we learned in TWS, it's highly likely that he was always a HYDRA agent embedded in SHIELD, and additionally may have had a role in Howard's assassination. He did seem a bit annoyed with Howard's reaction after Pym hit him.
 
Quick questions, if using the Pym technology made you crazy, how come Cross did yet Scott didn't, even though they used the technology for about the same amount of time, if not then Scott used it even more than Cross.

Also, assuming Hank Pym chose Scott believing he would use the Pym tech wisely, how could Pym, or even Scott, trust TI and David Dastmalchian with the knowledge of the tech, didn't they just meet Scott anyway?
 
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The fight scenes with Yellow Jacket and Ant-Man were pretty awesome and creative. Especially the trick they used. On one hand you zoom in and you see these God like beings in an epic battle and you zoom out and all you see is small lasers shooting around and stuff. It was really cool especially in Cassie's bedroombedroom and the falling briefcase.lol
 
So what was the easter egg in the quantum realm supposed to be? I didn't catch it.

You can see flashes of what looked like Janet Pym's silhouette in full costume.

I made sure to watch extra carefully after seeing an interview where Reed mentioned it.
 
Very surprised by the Falcon/Scott fight. Did not see that coming.
 
Quick questions, is using the Pym technology made you crazy, how come Cross did yet Scott didn't, even though they used the technology for about the same amount of time, if not then Scott used it even more than Cross.
Something about the Ant-Man helmet prevents the crazyness
 
Something about the Ant-Man helmet prevents the crazyness

Yeah, I don't remember the exact wording....but Pym said the helmet prevented madness in some way.
 
Any good shots of Hope's Wasp suit yet? I thought it looked great.
 
Something about the Ant-Man helmet prevents the crazyness

What I want to know is how Cross became crazy since he never used the tech before putting on the suit. In fact, the tech was basically automatic death to humans before Cross cracked the formula.
 
What I want to know is how Cross became crazy since he never used the tech before putting on the suit. In fact, the tech was basically automatic death to humans before Cross cracked the formula.

I got the impression that it was warping his brain because he never used the helmet while he was running his experiments.
 
What I want to know is how Cross became crazy since he never used the tech before putting on the suit. In fact, the tech was basically automatic death to humans before Cross cracked the formula.

I'm not really sure his problems are suit related. I've only seen the movie once, so things aren't crystal clear.....but....Pym says something about using the suit without the helmet can cause some mental problems....then sometime later says he thinks the yellowjacket suit has caused Cross to have mental problems. Personally....I was thinking that Cross could be a little bit nuts just because he is a nut. He has severe daddy issues concerning Pym....are they exaggerated by the suit or is he just a guy with issues to begin with?
 
Peyton Reed confirms the Spidey reference was intentional in this interview. Lord Feige lied :argh:
 
Any guesses on what will happen with Cross's formula now that Carson has it?
 
What I want to know is how Cross became crazy since he never used the tech before putting on the suit. In fact, the tech was basically automatic death to humans before Cross cracked the formula.
I have a feeling he may have tested the suit before the unveiling, considering how well he was using it.
 
So now we know that the new Avengers headquarters is actually an old Stark facility.

Also with seeing the way the Microverse looked, I can totally see how Dr. Strange could work now.
 
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We saw Darren messing with the formula without a helmet but weren't the other scientists that were with him also not wearing any protective gear?
 
Must say, Antony's death was pretty sad. :csad:
 

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