Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 9

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Why do people think the superhero genre is going to die so to speak. I dont really understand theres like thousands of crappy rom coms every year people dont say that genre is dying. I just cant wrap my mind around a genre just being a "fad" can some one explain this to me.

Ixnay on the ommoncay ensesay.
 
If you noticed, comic book genre has been around for the last 30 years and has gotten more popular in the last 10. A lot of it has to do with new technologies being used for special effects. As long as they can come up with new ways of presenting effects the genre will stay alive. Another major factor is that the fan base is much larger and more mature than it was maybe 50 years ago. You also have to factor in the point that comic book properties come with their own source material which makes them easy and cheaper to treat and develop. I seriously doubt the genre will be going away any time soon.
 
Cameron is mediocrity at it's finest, he's just great at being above the curve, LOL.

Name one of his films that was truly Oscar worthy.
 
Cameron is mediocrity at it's finest, he's just great at being above the curve, LOL.

Name one of his films that was truly Oscar worthy.

Even if you think none of his films are Oscar worthy, they've still won Oscars. Like it or not, that does count, because it means the right people thought they deserved it.
 
Cameron is mediocrity at it's finest, he's just great at being above the curve, LOL.

Name one of his films that was truly Oscar worthy.

And yet he has an armload of statues while you post about him on the internet. Who's the real winner here?
 
Cameron is mediocrity at it's finest, he's just great at being above the curve, LOL.

Name one of his films that was truly Oscar worthy.

Avatar was definitley worthy of winning the best SFX oscar. Yeah, the script was incredibly unoriginal, but no one can deny that the film was realllllllll purdy.
 
Okay, you all got me, I do love The Abyss though.
 
I just got back from the movie.

Don't want to go crazy and elaborate, but the movie wasn't that bad. But it could have been so much better. I did love Oa and the aspects of space however...if a sequel is made, more time should spent being fantastical rather than earthly. All the actors were good...but the guy who played Hector Hammond, while being a good performance, came off goofy and silly.
And the complaints I've heard about editing I agree with. Things just literally happen and scene structure was oddly off.


Overall I enjoyed the movie and I will buy the Blu Ray because I enjoyed it enough. I really don't understand the 20ish percentage on RT. If anything, it should be in the 40 to 50 radius. It is a shame though, movie had potential to be TOP 5 material.
 
Cameron is mediocrity at it's finest, he's just great at being above the curve, LOL.

Name one of his films that was truly Oscar worthy.
You are on crack. Cameron—for better or worse—is the father of the modern "Hollywood blockbuster".
 
You are on crack. Cameron—for better or worse—is the father of the modern "Hollywood blockbuster".

Unfortunately, you're correct. He just needs 10 years to come up with some type of ******** to carry that title.
 
You mean Titanic wasn't Oscar worthy? Last I remember, Avatar almost won best picture last year.
 
Now we're ragging on Cameron? lol

No, Avatar was crap. It was insulting. It was basically saying "If you're not a tree hugger, you're a ****" Ohhh... thanks.

But Terminator? Terminator 2? ALIENS?!?!! All bonafide masterpieces.

Then you have The Abyss and True Lies which are pretty awesome too.
 
'Green Lantern' is opening. Does it appeal only to white American males?

As movies bring classic comic books to the screen, some critics say they are mining the genre's early period, which featured less diversity than it does now. 'Green Lantern' is a case in point.

By Gloria Goodale, Staff writer / June 16, 2011

When “Green Lantern” – the latest in this summer’s heavy slate of super-hero films – opens this weekend, fans of the lesser-known but iconic DC action figure are eager to see if he will catch on.

But, as movies continue to mine classic comic books, some critics suggest they are going retro in more ways than one, returning to the genre’s early weak spots: a lack of diversity and an overwhelming emphasis on white American male power fantasies.

“Hollywood often continues to use a white American male as its default lead character and assumes that viewers of all demographics will be able to identify with him,” says Amy Corbin, assistant professor of art and film studies at Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Penn.

The white male becomes the “universal” character who is supposedly compelling for everyone – while when women and people of color play the leads, those films are often assumed to be “niche” films that will only attract a viewing demographic that matches the lead character,” she adds via email.

The Green Lantern origin myth pushes this particular bias further than most in the super hero canon, says comic book expert Julian Chambliss, who teaches history at Rollins College in Winter Park, Florida. In the Green Lantern mythology, the latest wearer of the ring of power is chosen by the ring itself, specifically for the wearer’s strength of will and ability to overcome fear.

The ring is looking for “the best of the best,” says Mr. Chambliss, adding: “You’re telling me that in 2011, on a planet of some 7 billion people, the vast majority of whom are minority faces, that the best of the best is going to be a white guy from southern California?”

Dreams of a new franchise

This sends a troubling message, he says adding “there are many other figures they could have chosen to make a movie about, but this one is appealing much more strongly to the privileging of white, male American power than many others.”

Clearly, the studio hopes to launch a franchise, says Hollywood.com box office expert Paul Dergarabedian, adding “some of the other DC franchises like Batman and Superman are pretty long in the tooth, so they are hoping to find a new, long-lived action hero.”

To do so the studio sought a figure with wide appeal, particularly to the under-30 crowd, casting Ryan Reynolds as the lead. But, Mr. Dergarabedian adds, the phenomenal overseas success this summer of films such as “Fast Five” and “Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides,” which has pulled in a record nearly $700 million foreign box office in its first month, suggests that a more diverse cast “would be a good idea.”

The legacy of the comic books themselves is partly to blame, says Jacque Nodell, granddaughter of Marty Nodell, the artist who created the first Green Lantern character in 1940.

“He was the child of a Ukrainian Jewish immigrant who knew well the sting of anti-Semitism,” she says, noting that the first version of the hero was blond. “My father was a little harsh about his own dad, but he summed it up when he said that his dad did what he needed to do to put bread on the table,” she says, adding that if that meant selling a fair-haired ideal of middle-American male power, then “so be it.”

Comic book universe expanded

However, the comic book universe has vastly expanded since its early days in World War II and Cold War America, points out Michael San Giacomo, who teaches a course in comic book history at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio.

“Before the sixties, comic books were largely aimed at young, white middle-American boys who had the disposable income to spend,” he says, adding, “but that began to change in the ‘60s and ‘70s, and they began adding black and Hispanic and female characters.”

Today, he says, the comic book universe if full of strong, diverse characters. The film spinoffs have not been as progressive. Still, there been tiny spots of progress, such as casting Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, previously a white character, in “Iron Man.”

Falling back on cultural stereotypes has a long tradition, notes pop culture pundit Robert Thompson, a Syracuse University media professor. The image of the white he-man endowed with superpowers dates to some of our earliest Western stories, he says, adding “just look at them all from Hercules to Achilles to Jason.”

There is a certain irony in the emphasis on white, male power in the film, points out pop culture expert Rob Weiner, a humanities librarian at Texas Tech University. The larger Green Lantern universe does embrace a galaxy of aliens and multi-species cast of characters, “so if you are looking for real diversity it is actually there.”

“Maybe they’ll get to that in the sequel,” he says.

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Does Green Lantern Appeal Only To White Males?
'Green Lantern' is opening. Does it appeal only to white American males?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1133985/board/thread/184345629
 
I had a feeling WB would take some heat for going with Hal Jordan over John Stewart, considering John is the only GL that the general audience is familiar with.

I can't tell you how many times I have heard or read that "why is a white guy playing GL?
 
But Geoff Johns had a lot of creative control. It was always going to be Hal. Just like if a Flash movie gets made, which it probably won't now, it'll be Barry Allen instead of the immensely more popular Wally West.

To be fair though, Hal was the first GL (apart from Alan Scott)
 
Despite what some people think about him, Hal Jordan is the main Green Lantern, for 30 years he was THE green lantern. It makes the most sense that he'd be used in the movie.
 
He is one of the main lanterns,but john and guy now main lanterns just has hal,so is jade and klye,but john is my most favorite and the most interesting to me.


 
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Main character(s)
(vol 1)
Alan Scott
(vol 2 & 4)
Hal Jordan -John Stewart

(vol 3)
Hal Jordan- Guy Gardner- Jon Stewart- Kyle Rayner




















John Stewart is a fictional character, a comic book superhero published by DC Comics. He first appeared in Green Lantern vol. 2 #87 (December 1971/January 1972), and was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams.


John Stewart has become a major recurring character in the Green Lantern mythos within the DC Universe. He starred in the short-lived spin-off comic Green Lantern: Mosaic, of which DC published 18 issues between June 1992 and November 1993. Additionally, he was the primary character in Green Lantern (vol. 2) from issues #182 through #200, when Jordan relinquished his place in the Corps (1984–1986).



He is the second Green Lantern not to wear a mask. He is one of DC's first black costumed superheroes.




He was featured as one of the lead characters on the television cartoon Justice League from 2001 until 2004. He continued to appear on the show's 2004-2006 sequel, Justice League Unlimited. As of 2007, John Stewart is prominently featured in DC's monthly comic books Justice League of America, Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps.



  • Like all Green Lanterns, Stewart's personality affects his ring's creations, giving them a solid, architectural quality. In Green Lantern: Rebirth, Hal Jordan remarks that "everything John builds is solid". He also remarked that Stewart is the best flyer in the Corps.
  • In Green Lantern (vol. 4) #26, it was shown that John's willpower exceeds the limit of his ring (when he tried to recreate a planet from scratch), a feat that had not been depicted before this point.


  • John is a discharged member of the USMC with full combat training. In addition, he is an expert sniper.


  • When he temporarily used Indigo-1's ring as a member of the Indigo Tribe, John was capable of accessing the powers of all Lantern Corps rings in his vicinity, even managing to harness the power of the Black Lantern Corps by drawing on the residual Black Lantern energy around Mogo's core.




Early years

John Stewart is an architect and veteran U.S. Marine who was selected by the Guardians as Hal Jordan’s backup after Guy Gardner was seriously injured in a disaster. Although Jordan objected after seeing that Stewart had a belligerent attitude to authority figures, the Guardians stood by their selection, and chided Jordan for his supposed bigoted outlook on the issue. Jordan explained that he just felt that even though Stewart might have the integrity for the task, he "obviously would
have

a chip bigger than the rock of Gibraltar."

To Jordan, Stewart’s first mission began badly with the assignment of protecting a racist politician and Stewart took advantage of averting an accident to embarrass him in the process
.

However, Stewart soon proved his worth when an assassin shot at the politician, but Stewart refused to intervene with Jordan to move in response to the attack. Stewart had good reasons for this apparent dereliction of duty when he stopped a gunman from killing a police officer in the outside parking lot at the event while Jordan was pursuing a decoy. When Jordan confronted Stewart about his actions, Stewart explained that the politician had staged it for political advantage. With that adventure, Jordan concluded that Stewart was an excellent recruit after all.

For some time, Stewart
occasionally

filled in for him as Green Lantern when Jordan was unavailable, including some missions of the Justice League.

After Jordan gave up being Green Lantern in the 1980s, the Guardians selected Stewart for full time duty. Stewart filled that role for some years, during which time he married Katma Tui, the Green Lantern of the planet Korugar who was initially assigned to train John in the use of his ring. Kat and John served together within the Green Lantern Corps of Earth alongside Hal Jordan, Arisia, Kilowog, Salaak, and other alien Green Lanterns.


After John’s ring was rendered powerless through the schemes of Sinestro, and Katma Tui was murdered at the hands of the insane Star Sapphire, Stewart’s life began to unravel. First, he was
falsely accused of killing Carol Ferris, Star Sapphire’s alter ego, and then falsely accused of theft by South Nambia (a fictional DCU nation similar to Apartheid-era South Africa). Jailed and tortured in South Nambia for weeks, John freed himself with his old ring, now re-powered thanks to the efforts of Hal Jordan. As a result, John inadvertently freed both a serial killer and

a terrorist. When Jordan confronted John over his actions, the two friends came to blows until John realized the “revolutionaries” he had been aiding intended to murder innocent civilians.

Cosmic Odyssey
Afterwards, John left Earth for space, where he participated in the Cosmic Odyssey miniseries event, and failed to prevent the destruction of the planet Xanshi by an avatar of the Anti-Life Equation.[2] The incident earned him the ire of J’onn J’onzz the Martian Manhunter, who was with him at the time. This series of tragedies left John a shattered man on the brink of suicide and created the villainess known as Fatality. J'onn J'onzz has since, at least civilly, forgiven him.

Green Lantern: Mosaic
John finally forgave himself for his past mistakes and grew into a stronger, more complex hero when he became the caretaker of the "Mosaic World", a patchwork of communities from multiple planets that had been brought to Oa by an insane Guardian who had invaded John’s mind.[2] Although bitter and sullen at his assignment at first, he overcame this and, using his formidable intellect and talent for unconventional thinking, Stewart forged the Mosaic into a new society and eventually became the first mortal Guardian of the Universe, known as the Master Builder. As his reward for this new level of awareness, John was reunited with his late wife, Katma Tui. However, tragedy struck once again and Hal Jordan, possessed by Parallax, destroyed both the Guardians and the Central Power Battery, robbing John of his newfound powers and his resurrected wife.

Darkstars and beyond
Following "Emerald Twilight" and the collapse of the Green Lantern Corps, Stewart was recruited by the Controllers to command the Darkstars, another interstellar peacekeeping force.[2] Using the new resources at his command, Stewart evacuated the Mosaic cities from Oa prior to its destruction and served the Darkstars with distinction until he was crippled in battle with Grayven on the planet Rann. Stewart eventually regained the use of his legs as a parting gift from Jordan before Jordan sacrificed himself to destroy the Sun-Eater during the 1996 "The Final Night" storyline. As a result of Jordan healing him, he began to exhibit random bursts of energy from his hands that he was able to discharge on three different occasions. Though he had initially refused a new Green Lantern ring months prior, he eventually accepted a new one entrusted to Kyle Rayner by a time-lost Hal Jordan, and joined the Justice League to fill in for Rayner as he took an extended leave of absence from Earth.(Green Lantern vol. 3 155-156)[citation needed]




Green Lantern: Rebirth


With the return of Hal Jordan and the Guardians, the Corps has been reorganized. Each sector of space now has two Green Lanterns assigned to it, and Stewart and Jordan now share regular duty for Earth’s sector, 2814. After the dissolution of the Justice League in the aftermath of the events depicted in the 2004 miniseries Identity Crisis, and the destruction of their Watchtower headquarters on the moon, Stewart has begun playing a larger role in metahuman affairs, working with many former Justice Leaguers.


During the opening “One Year Later” storyline of Green Lantern, Hal Jordan tells Green Arrow that John Stewart is on an off-world undercover mission. The details concerning this mission were revealed in Green Lantern (vol. 4) #17. John Stewart disguised himself as "Hunger Dog" to investigate in Europe. When John hears that Hal Jordan is being held captive by Amon Sur and Loragg, he goes off to rescue him. This leads to a confrontation with Amon Sur, who turns out to be the son of their predecessor, Abin Sur. During the fight, Amon receives a ring from the Sinestro Corps and vanishes.




In Justice League of America (vol. 2) #7, he and Wonder Woman designed one of the League’s new headquarters, The Hall. John later resumes his role as the League's resident Green Lantern upon Hal Jordan's request.


















Golden Age Green Lantern

Alan Scott


Silver Age Green Lantern
Hal Jordan





Guy Gardner
In the late 1960s, Guy Gardner appeared as the second choice to replace Abin Sur as Green Lantern of sector 2814. Gardner was originally supposed to receive Abin Sur's ring, but Jordan was closer. This placed him as the "backup" Green Lantern for Jordan. But early in his career as a Green Lantern, tragedy struck Gardner as a power battery blew up in his face, putting him in a coma for years. During the Crisis on Infinite Earths, the Guardians split into factions, one of which appointed a newly revived Gardner as their champion. As a result of his years in a coma, Guy was very emotionally unstable, although he still mostly managed to fight valiantly. He has gone through many changes, including wielding Sinestro's yellow Guardian power ring, then gaining and losing Vuldarian powers, and readmission to the Corps during Green Lantern: Rebirth. He later became part of the Green Lantern Honor Guard, and oversees the training of new Green Lanterns. Gardner is designated as Honor Guard Green Lantern.



John Stewart
In the early 1970s, John Stewart, an architect, was selected by the Guardians to replace a comatose Guy Gardner as the backup Green Lantern for Jordan. When Jordan resigned from the Corps for an extended period of time, Stewart served as the regular Lantern for that period. Since then, Stewart was in and out of action due to various circumstances, even becoming the first mortal Guardian of the Universe. He also joined and led the Darkstars when the Green Lantern Corps were destroyed by Parallax. After that, he took over being Green Lantern for Kyle Rayner when he left Earth, also taking his place in the JLA. Now he has begun serving with Jordan as one of his sector's two designated regular-duty Lanterns, designated as Green Lantern 2814.2.

Modern Age Green Lantern
Kyle Rayner


Others who have headlined as Green Lantern
Jade









John Stewart (comic book character)


http://www.comicvine.com/john-stewart/29-10451/

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