Comics Official Summers Brothers Thread

[Majik1387]

^Don't be mad your character sucks.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Yeah, I kinda try to block him out too.

Right on,im glad others feel like that.

Vulcan sucks.

Indeed,i cant imagine how much of the Summers history might change or might be reconned.

 

[Specter313]

In X-Men: The End, Sinister says he is, and it makes the most sense to me compared to Adam X and Vulcan.

That explaination sucked, and was, thankfully, not in continuity.

 

[Majik1387]

That explaination sucked, and was, thankfully, not in continuity.

It was better than what's happened in continuity.

Besides, even without it, I still consider Gambit the true 3rd brother.

 

[Nature's Rising]

Scott and Alex looks like not brothers anymore...they need a storyline together.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Scott and Alex looks like not brothers anymore...they need a storyline together.

Yeah, well considering we're holding our collective breath regarding who's gonna make it or not in Astonishing, we'll have to put that one on hold...

 

[Brainiac 8]

I actually like Vulcan...so go figure.

Personally they should have left it at Adam X and ended it there. I like Gambit by himself, I don't want him tied to the Summers at all.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I actually like Vulcan...so go figure.

Personally they should have left it at Adam X and ended it there. I like Gambit by himself, I don't want him tied to the Summers at all.

Well, I'm not that big of a Gambit fan, but, hey, rather him than Vulcan IMO.

What it probably comes down to for quite a few of us, eh.

 

[Havok83]

Vulcan has potential if they get him past his angerboy phase. He is jsut too old to be acting so impuslive and immaturely. I understand it but still it doesnt make it anymore easier to take

 

[Tracer Bullet]

i dont like him much

 

[supermarvelman]

In X-Men: The End, Sinister says he is, and it makes the most sense to me compared to Adam X and Vulcan.

It does make MUCH more sense.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

This is an actual question, but what the hell...

Is there any reason why Alex has pretty much "hated" Cyke (616 universe) for so long?

I'm no Havok expert and only recently got back into X-comics (only reading Astonishing, actually) and even back then, I pretty much just read Uncanny.

I'm not saying I hate the guy, just...

Was there anymore to it than Alex just not liking the fact that Cyke is an emotionally-stunted stiff/goody two shoes with issues the size of a continent and a bossy streak?

Please tell me it's not just him being a petulant rebel younger sibbling figure. Seriously.

 

[Havok83]

This is an actual question, but what the hell...

Is there any reason why Alex has pretty much "hated" Cyke (616 universe) for so long?

I'm no Havok expert and only recently got back into X-comics (only reading Astonishing, actually) and even back then, I pretty much just read Uncanny.

I'm not saying I hate the guy, just...

Was there anymore to it than Alex just not liking the fact that Cyke is an emotionally-stunted stiff/goody two shoes with issues the size of a continent and a bossy streak?

Please tell me it's not just him being a petulant rebel younger sibbling figure. Seriously.

Alex does nto hate Scott. They actually get along fine. The Alex/Scott "feud" began with Madelyne Pryor. When Alex was first introduced, he and Scott were close and got along great together. Alex's first scene was his college graduation back in the original X-men run and he and Scott were written as brothers. Things seemed fine through their early 80s appearances together in Alaska with Corsair and their grandparents. The first time things started to go bad was when Maddie took up asylum with the X-men in Australia. Alex thought Scott did her wrong and was angry bc he thought Scott just abandoned her. He started a brief relationship with her and during Inferno, she turned him into her Goblin Prince. and I beleive he fought Scott in that story.

After that was done, he returned to the X-men and didnt see Scott until after he emerged from the Siege Perilous in X-tinction Agenda. He and Scott fought again but he again wasnt in his right mind thanks to becoming a Genoshan magistrate. Alex then became leader of X-factor and the 2 were respectful of each other and friendly. That was until UXM 339 where they fought. This time Havok appeared as a member of the Brotherhood and left Scott to die when they fell out of a plane and he teleported away. It was all an act to fool the Brotherhood but Alex did hurt his friends

Alex revealed his secret to X-factor and reformed the team but "died" soon after. He returned a few years back in UXM and has been a constant member of the team since then. I dont remember any negativity towards each other or any type of feuding. They seem to be fine with each other as far as Im concerned

 

[GambitXremy]

I dunno i think vulcan can be something really good for the x-titles but i would still like to see gambit as an summers brother or in the family some how

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Alex does nto hate Scott. They actually get along fine. The Alex/Scott "feud" began with Madelyne Pryor. When Alex was first introduced, he and Scott were close and got along great together.

Huh.

It's just, I dunno, I recalled them getting along fine in the UXM 100s (Alex was best man at Scott & Maddie's wedding, right?) and then there was the Golbin Prince and UXM 339 and the fact that they seem at each other's throat (well, Alex is pissed, anyway) in quite a few "recent" AUs.

Was there ever an awkward apology after UXM 339? If I recall correctly, it was a pretty close one with Storm saving Cyke at the very last moment.

 

[Havok83]

Huh.

It's just, I dunno, I recalled them getting along fine in the UXM 100s (Alex was best man at Scott & Maddie's wedding, right?) and then there was the Golbin Prince and UXM 339 and the fact that they seem at each other's throat (well, Alex is pissed, anyway) in quite a few "recent" AUs.

Was there ever an awkward apology after UXM 339? If I recall correctly, it was a pretty close one with Storm saving Cyke at the very last moment.

no apology. Alex "died" after he revealed his behavior was an act so he never got a chance to talk to Scott. The times that Alex has seemed to hate on Scott, he's either been mentally influenced (Madelyne/Goblin Prince, Genosha Magistrate) or he's been faking (Brotherhood). I dont see any real animosity between them

What's AU? We dont get too many scenes between the 2 brothers these days but they seem to be fine with each other as far as Im concerned

 

[Tracer Bullet]

hey can someone tell me about the goblin prince i don't no that part

 

[Specter313]

hey can someone tell me about the goblin prince i don't no that part

Stuck in the middle of nowhere, Alex and Madelyne slowly found themselves drawn to each other. Both felt betrayed by their lovers and so they started some sort of relationship. However, Maddie was already influenced by Limbo demons, who had awakened her latent powers, [Uncanny X-Men #239] and soon she caused Inferno in New York, now fully transformed into the Goblyn Queen, with Havok as her Prince by her side. When X-Factor and X-Men met, Madelyne manipulated brother against brother and Havok accused Cyclops of abandoning his wife when she most needed him. Soon, the truth behind Madelyne Pryor was revealed. She was actually a clone of Jean Grey, empowered by a fraction of the Phoenix Force. The knowledge of this drove her insane and she died in battle with the X-Men and X-Factor, while trying to sacrifice her son to gain more power.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=62&page=4

 

[Nature's Rising]

It's just a waste I think. Exploring Gambit more would've been a better idea than introducing Vulcan.

 

[Havok83]

It's just a waste I think. Exploring Gambit more would've been a better idea than introducing Vulcan.

as far as what? You mean exploring the possibility of Gambit being a potential brother?

 

[Nature's Rising]

Potential brother or a mistaken brother. I think if they're just looking for someone powerful enough then gets tone down, there's Gambit for ya. I mean geez, that guy's been wasted, retconning him as a potential brother OR as a mistaken brother would've gave the character some justice. Then after than they can introduce Vulcan as someone like oh he's our real brother or whatever. The whole retcon thing about them in that island blah blah was so dull. Building up an old character would've made that arc so interesting IMO.

But oh well, maybe they're reserving Gambit for something, but honestly, not liking Vulcan a bit. The whole Deadly Genesis arc was a waste.

 

[Havok83]

Potential brother or a mistaken brother. I think if they're just looking for someone powerful enough then gets tone down, there's Gambit for ya. I mean geez, that guy's been wasted, retconning him as a potential brother OR as a mistaken brother would've gave the character some justice. Then after than they can introduce Vulcan as someone like oh he's our real brother or whatever. The whole retcon thing about them in that island blah blah was so dull. Building up an old character would've made that arc so interesting IMO.

But oh well, maybe they're reserving Gambit for something, but honestly, not liking Vulcan a bit. The whole Deadly Genesis arc was a waste.

I hate the thought of Gambit as Cyclops brother. Gambit is already a strong character on his own and does not need to be connected to that family.

Besides Brubaker is the mastermind behind Vulcan as the Summers brother. There's no way he'd have Gambit around especially he's gone on record as not liking him

 

[Nature's Rising]

Not really implying Gambit should be a Summers brother. Just some retcon since it has been at least hinted once in canon. Exploring that possibility, may true or not, is still a good plot line.

But then yeah Brubaker is the writer so yeah. Although never liked the intro to Vulcan. I am so glad I downloaded the torrent for it before ever purchasing it, because the whole arc is a waste.

 

[Manic]

I always thought "D'Ken raped a human woman" made more sense than "D'Ken ripped a fetus from a human woman, preserved its life, rapidly aged it to early adolescence, enslaved it, and brought it back to Earth for no reason" or "Sinister cloned himself, but spliced some Summers DNA into the clone, and added 11 Cajun herbs and spices for flavor."

 

[GambitXremy]

was there anyother time in x-men that gambit could be a summers. I already know about the end book one but thats kinda like whatever