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[TNC9852002]

WHOA..


Go Skyscraper!!

 

[TNC9852002]

HELLO? Is anyone seeing this?

Silva is getting OOWNED

 

[Crook]

I've been watching. Silva came out HARD at the start of the 4th, but he's still getting pinned. This is a damn good fight.

 

[TNC9852002]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WTFFFFFFFFFF

I had a feeling this would happen...OMG..

 

[Crook]

I. F**kin'. HATE. Submissions.

Silva got his ass whooped for 20 goddamn minutes and it takes a few seconds for him to clinch the entire fight.

 

[Darthphere]

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[The Game]

Crazy crazy crazy

Never count out the spider, major props to Chael

Tears will be shed on sherdog

 

[Darthphere]

It's really the beauty of MMA. You find yourself in a bad situation and you have to find your way out. Silva found a way out.

 

[TNC9852002]

I smell a rematch coming soon..

 

[El Bastardo]

What a ****ty ****ing disappointing loss.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah there's definitely going to be a rematch at some point.

 

[TNC9852002]

I. F**kin'. HATE. Submissions.

Silva got his ass whooped for 20 goddamn minutes and it takes a few seconds for him to clinch the entire fight.

Well it's also Chael's fault for not being able to finish him on the ground by then...

That first round was amazing though,...

 

[El Bastardo]

Well it's also Chael's fault for not being able to finish him on the ground by then...

That first round was amazing though,...

The entire fight was amazing, up until the reflex tap.

Silva was barely in the fight, and he gave up during the first round after the initial onslaught. C'mon. Hands all the way down, standing still, taking a couple punches, falling over, and staying passive the rest of the round?

Yeah, that's a champion.

But oh, right, his ribs hurt and Mr. Doctor told him not to fight, but he did because he loves us all. What a ****.

 

[Crook]

It's really the beauty of MMA. You find yourself in a bad situation and you have to find your way out. Silva found a way out.

Well it's also Chael's fault for not being able to finish him on the ground by then...

I'm only putting in my opinion as a mere casual MMA viewer, but the mere principle of having the ability to decide a fight on a submission is so off-base to me. This bout was a perfect example. Chael FOUGHT for every single second of those rounds. Silva was practically shielding himself 90% of the time. Yet he gets a good opening and can end the fight on a tapout. How much fighting did Silva actually do here? I mean honestly...

I can fully acknowledge that submissions are an artform and do require skill, but to me it's still not fighting. Anyone trained can pull that off. It takes a lot more effort to actually BEAT a man down.

Bleh. Like I said I'm only a casual viewer, but goddamn I hate fights that end like this. If I had my way submissions would be barred from this entire sport.

 

[El Bastardo]

That's why it's Mixed Martial Arts, though. It's a whole bunch of 'em.

If you had your way, it wouldn't be MMA.

If I had my way, baseball would have no balls, no bases, and no bats. Just strippers. But then it wouldn't be baseball, would it?

 

[Darthphere]

I'm only putting in my opinion as a mere casual MMA viewer, but the mere principle of having the ability to decide a fight on a submission is so off-base to me. This bout was a perfect example. Chael FOUGHT for every single second of those rounds. Silva was practically shielding himself 90% of the time. Yet he gets a good opening and can end the fight on a tapout. How much fighting did Silva actually do here? I mean honestly...

I can fully acknowledge that submissions are an artform and do require skill, but to me it's still not fighting. Anyone trained can pull that off. It takes a lot more effort to actually BEAT a man down.

Bleh. Like I said I'm only a casual viewer, but goddamn I hate fights that end like this. If I had my way submissions would be barred from this entire sport.

You want like Wolverine in X-Men style fighting LOL! But yeah, I understand trust me but that's why it's Mixed Martial Arts. This is almost exactly like Mir submitting Lesnar, hence why a rematch is probably going to happen.

 

[E-Man]

The Spider still reigns baby!

 

[Texas Zombie]

Wow after performance I just watched out of Anderson, I am not sure.

His punches weren't that good, his ground game was terrible, you put a spider In the water and it should drown, too bad for chael.


After this, I am positive someone is coming for the title, last name belfort, first name vitor, the phenom would destroy Anderson.

 

[BlackSymbiote]

I'm only putting in my opinion as a mere casual MMA viewer, but the mere principle of having the ability to decide a fight on a knockout is so off-base to me. This bout was a perfect example. Moorecraftr FOUGHT for every single second of those rounds. Struve was practically shielding himself 90% of the time. Yet he gets a good opening and can end the fight on a knockout. How much fighting did Struve actually do here? I mean honestly...

See, it goes both ways. There is no difference between a knock out and submission, as both can come out of no where and the end the fight in a second. Did you see the Todd Duffee/Mike Russow fight at UFC114? Go watch it. The same thing happened there except Duffee got KOed.

Also, does this mean if I had you on the ground and I was punching you in the face over and over while leaving myself wide open for an armbar or triangle, you wouldn't go for it just to get me to stop punching you in the face?

Bleh. Like I said I'm only a casual viewer, but goddamn I hate fights that end like this. If I had my way submissions would be barred from this entire sport.

So you want boxing?

 

[Crook]

That's why it's Mixed Martial Arts, though. It's a whole bunch of 'em.

If you had your way, it wouldn't be MMA.

If I had my way, baseball would have no balls, no bases, and no bats. Just strippers. But then it wouldn't be baseball, would it?

That analogy is more than exaggerating my point here. Your comparison wouldn't be baseball for the simple fact that you've taken out every aspect that makes it a competitive sport. Even the basic foundations of hitting a ball is taken away, so of course you have nothing.

Barring submissions doesn't take away the sport of combat, which is essentially what MMA is. Surely on principle you do not deserve the title of #1 fighter, much less champion, if you had your ass beat for a significant portion of the fight. Especially if your comeback didn't involve actual fighting.

 

[Crook]

See, it goes both ways. There is no difference between a knock out and submission, as both can come out of no where and the end the fight in a second. Did you see the Todd Duffee/Mike Russow fight at UFC114? Go watch it. The same thing happened there except Duffee got KOed.

Yeah, I saw that fight. Pretty hilarious actually. However, the difference between KOs and tapouts are that the former still requires you to fight. It could be the luckiest punch in the world, but you actually fought. Not everyone can get knocked out with a single hit. Everyone can be made to tap.

Also, does this mean if I had you on the ground and I was punching you in the face over and over while leaving myself wide open for an armbar or triangle, you wouldn't go for it just to get me to stop punching you in the face?

In real-life? I'd kick your balls or bite your ears if I had to. Anything goes.

I'm referring to competitive sports. It has to involve extensive skill to get ahead. I find submissions to be cheap, but I know several will disagree on that.

So you want boxing?

No, not really. Boxing itself is too limited for my tastes. I prefer UFC because of it.

 

[El Bastardo]

My analogy was more bordering on facetious mocking, but you can call it what you will.

BlackSymbiote made a wonderful point above your post. You should read it.

Otherwise, while MMA is a sport of combat, it's also MMA. MMA = Mixed Martial Arts. Grappling is a martial art. Submission is a weapon of grapplers.

I love Chael Sonnen, and I've found myself disliking Anderson Silva more and more of late, but it isn't his fault Sonnen tapped to a choke. And it's not his fault if Sonnen has zero defense toward that particular weapon.

It's like saying a country can't use planes or tanks in a war because the opposing nation isn't as technologically-advanced and, oh heavens, it wouldn't be fair.

Mixed Martial Arts is about, especially now, putting styles up against styles. Especially now, it's about having everything and seeing if it's enough to beat the other guy. Did Silva get trounced? He sure as hell did. Did Chael lose? He sure as hell did. It's almost a throwback to the old, original days.

Chael forfeited by tapping. He threw in the towel. I won't know what happened - I call it a reflex tap, but a tap nonetheless - but that's what it is.

 

[BlackSymbiote]

Anyway, as far as the ending of the fight goes, I'm still not sure it was even a tap. Hell, I don't think Silva thought it was a tap since Silva kept holding onto the arm.

 

[El Bastardo]

Anyway, as far as the ending of the fight goes, I'm still not sure it was even a tap. Hell, I don't think Silva thought it was a tap since Silva kept holding onto the arm.

Silva didn't let go of the arm because Chael was still grabbing at him. But it was a tap - personally, to my eyes, a reflex tap, but it's pretty obviously a tap in the replay.

There certainly was some confusion, though. Rosenthal had to make a decision, and I can't fault him for the decision he made.

 

[brainchild81]

Chael tapped & he knew it. You know if he hadn't his loudmouth ass woulda damn sure said it when he got on the mic afterward. He couldn't finish Silva so he GOT finished. End of story. Great fight & I'd like to see a rematch. I can't stand Sonnen, but he made this the most exciting Silva fight ever. He deserves a rematch(in which Silva will K him TFO ) Go Silva!!!!!!!