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UFC 67 had the worst fight card I've ever seen. Aside from the big guys I was not familiar with anyone else and the crocop, jackson and silva fights were extremely predictable. Just as a side note I'd like to say that Silva is no champion. This guy has absolutely no takedown defense. He's begging for some ground fighter to come in and take his belt.
 
Has anyone here been to a UFC event? I'm going surprise my brother with a trip to UFC 69 for his birthday, but I'm a little worried about the seating. We're going to be sitting high up and I'm wondering how hard it will be to see whats going on in the cage.
 
My buddy went to the last UFC event and apparently, he had seats up high but he could still see what's going on pretty well.....
 
Just as a side note I'd like to say that Silva is no champion. This guy has absolutely no takedown defense. He's begging for some ground fighter to come in and take his belt.
Nah. Lutter is a ground fighter & Silva kicked his ass
 
Nah. Lutter is a ground fighter & Silva kicked his ass

Lutter looked pretty weak though. I mean the guy had Silva mounted and couldnt beat him with punches and Silva stuck both his arms up just asking for an armbar. Lutter was definetly not 100%.
 
Nah. Lutter is a ground fighter & Silva kicked his ass

There are big holes in Silva's ground game. Lutter was not a serious contender for the title yet even in his weakened condition he was able to do take down Silva with ease. Why do you think Liddell has remained a champion for so long? Having really good standup skills isn't good enough these days.
 
We'll see. So far, he's doing just fine. Lutter took him down & paid a horrible price for it. Silva's ground game is OK. He kept managing to avoid getting hurt & to get up also. Lutter needs coaching. Anybody see Chonan beat Silva back in the day w/that wicked Sub?

P.S. Elite Xtreme Combat premires on Shotime tonight @10pm Eastern. Renzo Gracie V. Frank Shamrock
 
Anybody see Chonan beat Silva back in the day w/that wicked Sub?

P.S. Elite Xtreme Combat premires on Shotime tonight @10pm Eastern. Renzo Gracie V. Frank Shamrock
The Chonan sub was one of the best I've ever seen.
http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/...deo/xiu0k_anderson-silva-vs-chonan-submission

On the topic of the Showtime fights, here's Sherdog's play-by-play:
Bo Cantrell (Pictures) vs. Tim Persey (Pictures)
Round 1
The fighters trade wild punches with Cantrell getting the best of the exchange. Percy clinches with Cantrell against the cage. Percy lands a knee to the body. Percy unloads with a flurry of left and right hooks that knock out Cantrell. Percy wins by KO at 1:33 of the first.

Mike Pyle (Pictures) vs. Ross Ebanez (Pictures)
Round 1
Pyle attacking Ross Ebanez’s legs. Pyle gets a takedown after catching a Ebanez kick. Pyle takes his back and works for a rear naked choke. Ross defending well. Pyle sinks in the choke and forces a tap. Impressive victory for Pyle at 1:55 of the first frame.

Adriano Pereira (Pictures) vs. Javier Vazquez (Pictures)
Round 1
Vazquez lands a solid straight left. Pereira scores a takedown. Pereira stands up in the guard and attacks with punches. Both fighters back to their feet. Pereira faints and lands a right hook. Vazquez fires in a leg kick that find its target. Vazquez lunges in with a knee and avoids a takedown. Pereira rushes forward and lands 3 punches to his opponent's face. Pereira lands another solid punch before the round ends. Sherdog.com scores the close first round 10-9 for Pereira.

Round 2
Vazquez lands a solid body shot. Pereira scores with a punch that makes Vazquez grimace. Vazquez answers with a takedown. He stands up in guard and drops a hard punch down on his opponent's head. Vazquez working from half-guard and trying to pass. He moves to mount. Vazquez scores with elbows and punches. Pereira briefly got back to half-guard but Vazquez quickly advanced back to mount. Vazquez pounding away. One minute remains in the round. Referee Gary Ritter asks for more action. Vazquez drops down for a heel but Pereira escapes and takes the top position. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Vazquez.

Round 3
Vazquez opens up with his hands but nothing lands. Vazquez shoots in for a takedown but Pereira grabs the fence. Vazquez shoots in for another takedown but Pereira stuffs the attempt. Both fighters are fatigued. Vazquez lands a right counter. Vazquez lands another hard right hand. One minute remains in the bout. Pereira lands a punch and a knee. Pereira shoots and takes the fight to the canvas. Vazquez goes for an armbar but Pereira has none of it. Sherdog.com scores the close third round 10-9 for Vazquez.

Official score:
29-28 Vazquez
29-27 Pereira
29-28 Vazquez
Javier Vazquez gets the split decision nod.

John Shackelford (Pictures) vs. James Edson Berto (Pictures)
Round 1
Berto lands a hard low kick. Berto lands a right hand and stuffs a Shackleford takedown attempt. Berto lands a left hand and explodes into a flying knee but Shackleford catches it and takes Berto to the canvas. Berto sweeps and passes to side-control. Berto steps back to his feet and invites Shackleford to follow. Berto lands a left striaght to the face then the body. Shackleford feels it and shoots for another takedown. Berto sprawls and stops it. Berto fires in a low kick that lands. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Berto.

Round 2
Berto is cutting off the cage and throwing straight punches. Berto lands a left straight. Berto lands another left. Berto lands a crushing left kick to the body and a left hook to the chin that sends Shackleford to the canvas. Shackelford weathers the storm and looks for for a heel hook. Berto holds his position and drops punches down until the ref stops the fight. The crowd is not pleased but Shackleford stopped defending. Berto wins at 2:27 of the second round.

Chris Gates (Pictures) vs. Riki ***uda (Pictures)
Round 1
***uda scores a takedown to start the action. ***uda bombs away with a right hand and a series of lefts from Gates' guard that forces the referee to step in and show mercy. Riki ***uda wins by TKO at 1:18 of the first stanza.

Karl James Noons (Pictures) vs. Charles Bennett (Pictures)

“Krazy Horse” talks on a cell phone while walking to the cage.

Round 1
Bennett refuses to touch hands with Noons. KJ lands a kick to the body. Bennett counters a kick with a right hand and lands a low kick of his own. Noons attacks Bennett’s legs. Bennett pieces together a crisp punch combo. Noons shakes Bennett’s frame with a lead right. Bennett lands a brutal right hook square on the chin that puts Noons out on the mat. Replays show that the knockout punch was a counter shot off a chin-grazing right hand from Noons. Bennett was hurt by the punch but landed his counter shot with much more power. Bennett wins by kockout at 3:43 of the first round.

Gina Carano (Pictures) vs. Julie Kedzie (Pictures)
Round 1
Kedzie lands a front kick. Kedzie shoots for a takedown but Carano stops it. Carano lands a knee to the stomach and avoids another takedown attempt. Kedzie shoots and pulls guard. Carano escapes guard and gets back to her feet. Carano lands a right had. And another. Carano lands a head kick and two right hands. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Carano.

Round 2
Carano lands a hard low kick. Kedzie scores a takedown but Carano scrambles to the top position. Kedzie using a body triangle from the bottom. Kedzie counters a head kick with a right hand. Carano answers with a right of her own. Carano is teeing off with kicks to the leg and punches to the head. Carano drops Kedzie with a hard right hand. Kedzie stands back to her feet. The tough as nails Kedzie scores a body lock takedown before the round ends. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Carano.

Round 3
Kedzie gets a takedown and moves to side-control. Carano gives up her back. The much-stronger Carano works back to her feet and out of the bad position. Carano throws a double jab and lands a right hand. Kedzie answers with a right of her own. Carano lands a knee and scores a takedown of her own from the Thai-clinch before the round ends. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Kedzie. This turned out to be a very exciting fight. The judges score the fight 29-28 x 2 and 30-27, all for Gina Carano.

Joey Villasenor (Pictures) vs. David Loiseau (Pictures)
Round 1
Villasenor gets a quick takedown. He moves to side-control. Villasenor is working elbows to Loiseau’s head. The Canadia works back to his feet. Villasenor slams Loiseau to the mat. Villasenor moves to Loiseau’s back and works knees to the shoulder. Villasenor now working from the crucifix position. Loiseau back to his feet. Again Villasenor takes the fight to the mat. Loiseau reverses and works from the top. Villasenor sinks in a deep armbar but “The Crow” escapes. First round is dominated by the American, 10-9.

Round 2
Loiseau tries to throw Villasenor but Joey takes the top position. Villasenor dropping elbows to the Canadian’s face from half-guard. Loiseau works back to full-guard. Referee Herb Dean stands up the fighters. Villasenor lands a right hand. Villasenor with a knee to the gut. Again Villasenor takes Loiseau down. Loiseau turtles up while Villasenor elbows the head. Loiseau works to his feet only to get ripped back to the ground. More elbows from the American. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Villasenor.

Round 3
Loiseau opens up with two wild kicks to start the third. Loiseau lands a left hand. Loiseau, hesitant in the first two rounds, now presses the pace. Villasenor lands a crushing body shot. Villaseor drops Loiseau with a right hand. Double jab from Villasenor. Villasenor rocks Loiseau with a right hook to the body. Right hook scores for Villasenor. Complete domination from Villasenor, 10-9 and 30-27 total on the Sherdog.com scorecard. The official judges agree. 30-27 x3.

Antonio Silva (Pictures) vs. Wesley Correira (Pictures)
Round 1
Silva lands a low kick and a jab before scoring a takedown. Silva drops right hands down on Cabbage’s face from half-guard. Both fighters are back to their feet. Silva lands an uppercut. Silva opens up a small cut over Correira’s right eye. The 300-lb. Silva lands a flying knee and a left hand that floors “Cabbage.” He pounces on his fallen opponent with punches until the referee stops the contest at 3:49 of the first round. Impressive victory for the Brazilian.

Frank Shamrock (Pictures) vs. Renzo Gracie (Pictures)

Renzo Gracie walks to the cage to the sounds of Evanescence's "Wake me up Inside." Frank Shamrock follows to Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the U.S.A.”

Round 1
Shamrock lands two kicks to the legs ad a right hand. Renzo clinches and works for the takedown. He gets Shamrock to the canvas. He quickly moves to sidemount. Gracie now has knee-on-belly. Gracie is setting up a armbar. The ref stands them up. Shamrock lands a knee to the body and a right hand. Gracie scores another takedown. Renzo works from the top position in half-guard. Gracie now in side mount. Gracie works some elbows before the round ends. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Gracie.

Round 2
Renzo shoots twice but Shamrock has none of it. Renzo on his third try takes the bout to the floor. Renzo is back in side-control but he offers no offense. Herb Dean takes a point from Shamrock for kneeing Renzo to the head from the bottom. Renzo is given 5-minutes to recover. The EMS crew put a neck brace on the stunned Gracie so the fight appears to be over. Replays show Shamrock lands 2 knees to the side of Renzo's head/neck area from the bottom of Gracie's side mount. He walks out of the cage under his own power. An official result is forthcoming. Frank Shamrock is disqualified at 2:00 of the second round.
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Not great to hear that Loiseau dropped another fight with a less than stellar performance. But then on the other hand everyone out of the Greg Jackson camp has been on fire lately, so it's not a bad loss... at least, it's no worse than any loss that's your third in the row is going to be.

Also, it sounds like an over the hill Renzo Gracie was getting the better of Frank Shamrock (legend in his own mind though he may be) before the DQ. Maybe that will get Shamrock, who's still in his physical prime, off his laurels and convince him to actually take some fights again. Of course, I'm not counting on it.
 
Loiseau ain't been the same since he lost to Franklin. Gina Carano is beautiful and deadly w/her striking. Julie had big time heart and can take alot of punishment. Just watched Silva beat up Carlos Newton. Silva is top class. Not unbeatable, but he's the real deal and doesn't get enough credit. Anybody watch BodogFight?
 
Anyone here plan on watching UFC 68? The fight card looks pretty good, especially with the inclusion of 2 of my favorite fighters; Matt Hughes and Rich Franklin. Matt will be going against Chris Lytle. His name sounds familiar but I can't remember much of him. Franklin will be fighting against Jason MacDonald 'The TUF Killer'. Just knowing Franklin and Hughes are on the fight card has raise my level of interest in this particular event. Anyway, I hope Couture will be the crap out of Sylvia. :up:

PS. Just heard that Hughes might be fighting in the 185lbs weight division... after he wins his welterweight championship belt first. What do you guys think of that?
 
Ah, there she is the UFC queen herself, DBella.
I think Hughes should stay in the class he is in until he beats GSP...or maybe thats what you are saying. But he definitely needs to beat GSP, not someone else, for the title.
 
Ah, there she is the UFC queen herself, DBella.
I think Hughes should stay in the class he is in until he beats GSP...or maybe thats what you are saying. But he definitely needs to beat GSP, not someone else, for the title.
Well... GSP is the current champ so I think when he said he'll move to the 185lbs after he gets his belt back, he meant to beat GSP. I'd love to see a re-match (next one will be the third) between these two as their two bouts have been very entertaining. But I wanna see Hughes fight Diego Sanchez first before he leaves the welterweight division.
 
I eat, sleep, live MMA. Well... not exactly but it's one of my favorite sports to watch since boxing went downhill. Still like boxing but it's not as exciting as it used to be.
 
I haven't watched boxing in a looong time. That's awesome, most women steer clear of MMA stuff.
 
I don't know why they're putting Diego against Koscheck. Thats a no match for Diego. Plus, he already beat him once. And of coarse Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes are going to win their bouts.
 
I don't know why they're putting Diego against Koscheck. Thats a no match for Diego. Plus, he already beat him once. And of coarse Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes are going to win their bouts.
Diego as in Sanchez? Is he on UFC 68 fight card? If you're talking about Sanchez, I think he should be fighting Matt Hughes instead. You are certain Franklin will beat MacDonald? I think he'll win too but I also thought he'll beat Silva but he didn't.
 
So I was perusing YouTube this afternoon, and pretty much discovered my new favorite fighter. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. This guy is a beast. I haven't been too big on Pride, so this was a nice little discovery for me. Someone give this guy a UFC contract. I'd love to see him demolish the entire Light-Heavyweight divison. Including Quinton Jackson. Again.
 
Diego as in Sanchez? Is he on UFC 68 fight card? If you're talking about Sanchez, I think he should be fighting Matt Hughes instead. You are certain Franklin will beat MacDonald? I think he'll win too but I also thought he'll beat Silva but he didn't.


Yeah, Diego as in Sanchez. I'm pretty certain Fraklin will win his match. And your right, The Nightmare needs to be taking on Hughes. That would be one hell of a match. Then I want to see Diego take on B.J. Penn.
 
UFC 68 Results from Dave Meltzer of WON:

Jamie Varner b Jason Gilliam. Varner took Gilliam down right away, got his back, and choked him out in less than 2:00.

Gleison Tibau b Jason Dent via decision after three rounds. Tibau scored takedowns in all three rounds and controlled the match from there. He struck from the top and went for a lot of submissions, but could never finish. 30-27 scores.

Jon Fitch b Luigi Fiorvanti. First round had Fitch take Fiorvanti down and work him over. In round two, Fitch scored two more takedowns before getting his back and choking Fiorvanti out.

Matt Hammil b Rex Holman after they exchanged, with Hammil doing better. Hammil scored the takedown, got Holman's back and choked him out late in the first round.

Jason Lambert vs. Renato Babalu Sobral opens the PPV show.

Babalu dominated the first 4:30 of the round, taking him down, getting his back and nearly getting a choke. But Lambert got up and decked Babalu with time running out and Babalu held on. Hard to judge round because Lambert did well, but I'd give it to Babalu.

Another upset here. Lambert took Babalu down and punished him on the ground while in guard, with punches, forearms and elbows. Finally John McCarthy ordered a stand-up, and as Babalu came forward, Lambert crushed him with a left hook to the jaw and it was over.

Matt Hughes vs. Chris Lytle is up next.

Fight was on the ground. Lytle tried a guillotine and neutralized Hughes for a while. Hughes got side control and threw a few punches but not much. At the end of the round, Hughes was about to get an armbar when time ran out. Close round slightly going to Hughes.

Hughes took him down and trapped the head, hammering him with elbows and punches. Lytle's left eye was busted up pretty good. Hughes got side control and even a full mount. Lytle used the cage to reverse, but in going for an armbar, lost his position. Definitely Hughes' round.

Hughes took him down and controlled Lytle the entire round, but didn't do much. Lots of booing because it was a bad round. Hughes went for an armbar late but Lytle got out of it.

Straight 30-27 scores for Hughes, but it was a bad fight and not a dynamic win.

Fans booed Anderson Silva on the screen. Lots of booing. It'll be bad for Sylvia.

Fan poll has Couture 62% to 38%.

Rich Franklin vs. Jason MacDonald is up next.

Batista is at ringside. Franklin connected with a lot of punches and showed good takedown defense. At one point Franklin threw MacDonald down and was throwing a lot of punches but as MacDonald started playing a submission game, Franklin backed off. MacDonald got a takedown late. Franklin's round easily.

Franklin gave MacDonald a real beating late in the round from the top with punches from the mount and back. It was seconds from being stopped when the round ended, but MacDonald's corner saw how wobbly he was and called it off, so Franklin won at the end of the second round. Unlike Hughes, I'd say very good performance by Franklin.

They had a face-off with Franklin and Silva after the match. Of course the fans booed Silva heavy, but Franklin told the fans that Silva was a real champion and didn't deserve to be booed. Silva praised Franklin as well. Dana White then told Franklin he'd like the rematch in Cincinnati. The Cincinnati fans cheered, but in Columbus, a lot of fans booed.

Martin Kampmann vs. Drew McFedries is next.

McFedries was killing him with punches, with one knockdown from a right and several really hard lefts. Kampmann has a hell of a chin to stay up from that kind of pounding and his face was looking bad. Then Kampmann took him down, got a side mount and switched over, securing a head and arm triangle and McFederies passed out from the choke. A great example of the sport. This is a complete WWE crowd because these two weren't stars and the crowd went quiet, even though this was a really good match.

Tim Sylvia vs. Randy Couture is up next. Final poll is 71% for Couture.

RANDY WON 50-45 across the board.

Couture decked Sylvia in round right after faking a kick and scoring with an overhand right. He went for the kill, but Sylvia survived, regained his bearings and the rest of the round had Couture underneath Sylvia, but having his back. Couture kept trying for a choke but never came close.

Couture took Sylvia down in the second round. He kept busy with punches to the head and body, as well as some elbows, giving Sylvia a bloody nose. Sylvia connected with some elbows from his back as well. Couture took him down a second time right at the end of the round.

Both guys were exhausted at this point, but Couture has balls of steel and fought through it. Couture outstruck Sylvia the entire round connecting many times to the head with rights. Who would have believed a round completely on their feet and Couture would win it handily, without even being rocked once. At this point Couture had the match won unless he was knocked out or submitted.

Couture took him down again in round four. After a stand-up, Couture was scoring with overhand rights. Sylvia just had no game plan and clearly had taken Couture too lightly. By this point he was too tired to execute. Couture got another takedown and scored with elbows to the head and more punches.

Round five saw Couture land more punches standing, and got another takedown. He got into a mount, scored with knees to the body, more elbows, got another mount. After a stand-up, he can another takedown. Couture had a swollen left eye but he pitched a five round shutout here. This was by no means fight of the year, but it will go down as one of the most memorable fights in history.
 
Alright I've searched the Forums here and couldn't find if this has been discussed before so here goes. Does anyone here watch UFC, and if so who do you like, Liddell, Ortiz, Cro Cop, Couture, St. Piere, Hughes, Rampage? This could be a place where UFC fans or maybe even Pride fans can express their love for the sport. I personally think Randy Couture is the man after his win last night. So let your voice be heard if your a UFC fan.

peace:word:
 
UFC has got to be about the gayest sport ever. I mean in the homophobic sense. A friend of mine showed me one of there fights. It was literally 20 mins of them just laying on the ground hugging each, & occassionaly punching. It was like watching gay porn without the penetration.
 
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