Official UFC Thread

[Colossal Spoons]

nah, you know Roy "fat bastard" Nelson only spends his money on this[/IMG]

Haha. I had that a few weeks back, big letdown. I can cross it off my list of fatty things to eat once though

Haha, nope! I don't like Roy Nelson at all. But if Cain can move ~280 lbs. of Rothwell fat, he can move ~280 lbs. Period.


Nonsense. That's far too fancy. Doesn't Hillbelly (ahem) eat Whoppers?

BK should just sponsor him and get it over with. Could you imagine Roy walking down to the octagon wearing that cardboard crown they give kids on their birthdays

 

[BlackLantern]

nah, you know Roy "fat bastard" Nelson only spends his money on this

my cholestrol goes up just looking at that

 

[Paroxysm]

Funny thing is, you're nowhere near being the most anti-Brock person I've talked too. Makes being a Brock fan so much more fun. When he wins, we get to gloat x10. When he eventually loses, it'll have just been his time

Whatever dude, thanks for the lesson in Nut Hugging 101.

 

[E-Man]

You guys should stop hating on my boy Roy before I spray y'all with some Whopper scent.

 

[brainchild81]

Whatever dude, thanks for the lesson in Nut Hugging 101.

Is that really called for?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, what is this sherdog?

But seriously, I find your Brock hatred amusing and couldn't resist pouring fuel on it. I dislike Frank Mir but would never say something silly like he needed to win 15 straight matches before I admit he's a good heavyweight.

This concludes today's AP Hating class

You guys should stop hating on my boy Roy before I spray y'all with some Whopper scent.

No lie, I almost bought that cologne

 

[Paroxysm]

But seriously, I find your Brock hatred amusing and couldn't resist pouring fuel on it. I dislike Frank Mir but would never say something silly like he needed to win 15 straight matches before I admit he's a good heavyweight.

This concludes today's AP Hating class

I hate him for the same reason people hate Fedor, the way his fans make him out to be this god, this unstoppable force. I'll admit, 15 consecutive fight is wack for the UFC.

I respect his ability as an athlete and he has tons of potential, I just don't think he's the toughest HW at the moment.

 

[Paroxysm]

Dream 15 was pretty good. Aoki made short work of Kawajiri, caught him in a pretty wicked Achilles lock. Gegard Mousasi looked pretty good against Jake O’Brien, caught him in a standing guillotine choke and made him tap 31 second in the first round.

 

[B]

I'm thinking Chael Sonnen should have a hospital bed, ambulance, facial reconstruction surgery all pre-booked prior to UFC 117.

He should also probably think about having the quickest route to the hospital also cordoned off by police to ensure he makes it there as quick as possible.



The amount of crap this guy has been talking is unreal, has anyone watched the Q & A he did with Mike Goldberg prior to UFC 116?

It was a mixture of &

 

[El Bastardo]

I love Chael Sonnen.

 

[E-Man]

Chael says what he does to get attention. He's basically a real life troll, so his comments shouldn't be taken too seriously. He's a good fighter, but too one dimensional to beat Anderson. Stranger things have happened though. GSP vs. Serra instantly comes to mind.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I hate him for the same reason people hate Fedor, the way his fans make him out to be this god, this unstoppable force. I'll admit, 15 consecutive fight is wack for the UFC.

I respect his ability as an athlete and he has tons of potential, I just don't think he's the toughest HW at the moment.

Haha, some of Brock's trash talk and his fans have to be taken with a grain if salt though; given his WWE background(I'm a WWE fan so it's not an insult). I don't think Brock's that impressive of a fighter but he's damn entertaining. I was as surprised as most people that Carwin didn't beat him, and I think Cain has a good chance too.

 

[Paroxysm]

 

[B]

Haha, some of Brock's trash talk and his fans have to be taken with a grain if salt though; given his WWE background(I'm a WWE fan so it's not an insult). I don't think Brock's that impressive of a fighter but he's damn entertaining. I was as surprised as most people that Carwin didn't beat him, and I think Cain has a good chance too.

Most people only dislike Brock because of his WWE backround.

Their hatred for him clouds their judgement concerning his ability.

Brock's wrestling ability is superb & his ground game is good & ever improving.. it is also entertaining to watch unlike people like Rashad Evans, GSP (to a degree), Chael Sonnen etc who seem content to act as a blanket for 3-5 rounds & grind out wins. Brock is far more aggressive & looks to punish & finish you on the ground, whereas when you are watching other wrestlers you get the impression they are happy to just grind out a win.

His standup needs some work, but it is in no way as bad as his 'haters' like to believe. It's average technique, however it is combined with superb power & unreal speed (for a heavyweight).

I like Brock Lesnar alot, when I watch MMA I am looking to be entertained. Brock Lesnar certainly provides that not only in his fights but with his comments before & after also.

 

[brainchild81]

Chael says what he does to get attention. He's basically a real life troll, so his comments shouldn't be taken too seriously. He's a good fighter, but too one dimensional to beat Anderson. Stranger things have happened though. GSP vs. Serra instantly comes to mind.

I keep having this thought in the back of my mind. What if THIS guy is the one who finally does it & beats Silva? I hate Sonnen & Silva is still one of my faves. That would be HORRIBLE! I didn't think Sonnen would get past Nate, but he somehow did it.

 

[Kane52630]

after seeing last night's Boondocks all I got to say is

Robert Freeman > GSP

 

[Colossal Spoons]

So far behind

 

[Kane52630]

So far behind

Need to get on it bud, No one can Beat Robert "The Man" Freeman

 

[Paroxysm]

Most people only dislike Brock because of his WWE backround.

Their hatred for him clouds their judgement concerning his ability.

Actually most people hate Brock because he was given a title shot after something like 4 fights and lots of people thought that was ********.

Brock's wrestling ability is superb & his ground game is good & ever improving.. it is also entertaining to watch unlike people like Rashad Evans, GSP (to a degree), Chael Sonnen etc who seem content to act as a blanket for 3-5 rounds & grind out wins. Brock is far more aggressive & looks to punish & finish you on the ground, whereas when you are watching other wrestlers you get the impression they are happy to just grind out a win.

GSP isn't even a wrestler and he has better ground game than Brock and Rashad has become more than just a "wrestler", his KO's over Chuck Liddell, Sean Salmon and Jason Lambert cleary show his growth from a wrestler to a mixed martial artist. If you find that "boring" go back to watching WWE fulltime.

His standup needs some work, but it is in no way as bad as his 'haters' like to believe. It's average technique, however it is combined with superb power & unreal speed (for a heavyweight).

Comapred to other HW's Brock's stand up is piss poor.

 

[B]

Actually most people hate Brock because he was given a title shot after something like 4 fights and lots of people thought that was ********.

And yet these same people more often than not love Randy Couture..

GSP isn't even a wrestler and he has better ground game than Brock

I'll think you'll find GSP now, 100% is a wrestler. He didn't come into MMA with a wrestling backround, however he obviously did some training & took to it like a duck to water.

and Rashad has become more than just a "wrestler", his KO's over Chuck Liddell, Sean Salmon and Jason Lambert cleary show his growth from a wrestler to a mixed martial artist.

Without question Rashad Evans has improved his striking.. to a point, however he is still more wrestler thana 'well rounded mixed martial artist' as was proved when he fought someone who could actually strike well ie Machida. He then had to go back to his bread & butter as he calls it on order to take on people like Thaigo Silva & Rampage Jackson who are better strikers than he is.

His KO win over Liddell is his most impressive as Liddell is (of the 3) the most dangerous striker by a few 100 miles.. that being said, the Chuck Liddell Rashad fought was a mere shadow of the lethal knockout artist that had been on a rampage of knockouts dominating the LHW division for years, ironically stopped by Rampage.

If you find that "boring" go back to watching WWE fulltime.

You are one trolling piece of crap you know that..

What I find 'boring' is the blanket tactic he has seemingly reverted back to in his past few fights, if you like watch 2 men who are supposedly fighting hug & have 1 be held down for 15 mins.. well I'd suggest you find a brick & go smash up the first police car you find (prefarably with a cop inside). You will be sent to a place were this sort of thing happens quite regularly.. you might even get lucky & get to experience it yourself.

Comapred to other HW's Brock's stand up is piss poor.

Ha. Tell me another joke.

Brock dropped Mir (twice on 2 different occassions with punches I believe), Brock dropped Herring (also twice in the same match with standing punches I believe) & finally he dropped & TKO'd Randy Couture, a man who out boxed Gonzaga (still a HW in the UFC) & to a lesser extent Tim Sylvia, from standing punches.

So really when you think about it & send your little pea brain into overdrive, his standup isn't that bad at all. You could easily make a case for Lesnar being able to beat anyone that the 3 men hes dropped with punches have beat, using standup.

It is pretty irrelevant anyway, with Lesnar's wrestling ability, size & speed, he doesn't really need to stand with anyone. He can take them down & smash their face in.. or use his Brock-itsu on them.

 

[brainchild81]

You guys relax. You're BOTH wrong about different ****

Actually most people hate Brock because he was given a title shot after something like 4 fights and lots of people thought that was ********.
GSP isn't even a wrestler and he has better ground game than Brock and Rashad has become more than just a "wrestler", his KO's over Chuck Liddell, Sean Salmon and Jason Lambert cleary show his growth from a wrestler to a mixed martial artist. If you find that "boring" go back to watching WWE fulltime.
Comapred to other HW's Brock's stand up is piss poor.

People said Silva didn't deserve a title shot either. He'd only beaten Leben in the UFC. Silva PROVED he deserved it by BEATING THE CHAMPION, as did Brock. People need to get over it. Brock also had a big name because of his WWE fanbase. 'Twas the smart thing to do. GSP is a wrestler now. He wants to compete in the olympics. I'm not gonna say that GSP's ground game is better than Brock's or vice versa until I see one of them lose @the ground game sometime soon. BOTH are good enough to remain champ, &Brock's FINISHING people on the ground. Brock's stand up has been good enough against everybody BUT Carwin. Ditto on what you say about Rashad

And yet these same people more often than not love Randy Couture..



I'll think you'll find GSP now, 100% is a wrestler. He didn't come into MMA with a wrestling backround, however he obviously did some training & took to it like a duck to water.



Without question Rashad Evans has improved his striking.. to a point, however he is still more wrestler thana 'well rounded mixed martial artist' as was proved when he fought someone who could actually strike well ie Machida. He then had to go back to his bread & butter as he calls it on order to take on people like Thaigo Silva & Rampage Jackson who are better strikers than he is.

His KO win over Liddell is his most impressive as Liddell is (of the 3) the most dangerous striker by a few 100 miles.. that being said, the Chuck Liddell Rashad fought was a mere shadow of the lethal knockout artist that had been on a rampage of knockouts dominating the LHW division for years, ironically stopped by Rampage.



You are one trolling piece of crap you know that..

What I find 'boring' is the blanket tactic he has seemingly reverted back to in his past few fights, if you like watch 2 men who are supposedly fighting hug & have 1 be held down for 15 mins.. well I'd suggest you find a brick & go smash up the first police car you find (prefarably with a cop inside). You will be sent to a place were this sort of thing happens quite regularly.. you might even get lucky & get to experience it yourself.



Ha. Tell me another joke.

Brock dropped Mir (twice on 2 different occassions with punches I believe), Brock dropped Herring (also twice in the same match with standing punches I believe) & finally he dropped & TKO'd Randy Couture, a man who out boxed Gonzaga (still a HW in the UFC) & to a lesser extent Tim Sylvia, from standing punches.

So really when you think about it & send your little pea brain into overdrive, his standup isn't that bad at all. You could easily make a case for Lesnar being able to beat anyone that the 3 men hes dropped with punches have beat, using standup.

It is pretty irrelevant anyway, with Lesnar's wrestling ability, size & speed, he doesn't really need to stand with anyone. He can take them down & smash their face in.. or use his Brock-itsu on them.

Rashad is a damn good striker. He knocked the **** outta Rampage, but finishing Page isn't easy for anyone. Rashad did try tho. He didn't lay n pray like many guys w/wrestling skills do. Rampage also tried to finish Rashad, but unlike Rashad, Rampage was unable to do anything meaningful after recovering from the GNP. Rashad DOES appear to be gunshy @times tho. Having your 1st loss be a brutal KO does that sometimes. I'd like to see Evans combine his 2 selves, the one who was finishing cats 4a bit & the one w/the unstoppable takedowns.

Ditto on what you say about Brock

 

[Paroxysm]

I'll think you'll find GSP now, 100% is a wrestler. He didn't come into MMA with a wrestling backround, however he obviously did some training & took to it like a duck to water.

Why is GSP 100% wrestler, because he uses his wrestling ability efficiently?

Without question Rashad Evans has improved his striking.. to a point, however he is still more wrestler than a 'well rounded mixed martial artist' as was proved when he fought someone who could actually strike well ie Machida. He then had to go back to his bread & butter as he calls it on order to take on people like Thaigo Silva & Rampage Jackson who are better strikers than he is.

Just because Machida is a better striker doesn't mean Rashad isn't a well rounded fighter. It just means that Machida has better striking ability. Rashad is a smart guy, perhaps he knew Rampage and Thaigo had better striking so he changed his game plan? Part of being a well rounded fighter is to know when and when not to use your skills.

His KO win over Liddell is his most impressive as Liddell is (of the 3) the most dangerous striker by a few 100 miles.. that being said, the Chuck Liddell Rashad fought was a mere shadow of the lethal knockout artist that had been on a rampage of knockouts dominating the LHW division for years, ironically stopped by Rampage.

You can't give credit where credit is due can you? I could argue that Randy was a "mere shadow" of his former self when he fought Brock but I won't stoop to your level.

You are one trolling piece of crap you know that..

Name calling? Really?

What I find 'boring' is the blanket tactic he has seemingly reverted back to in his past few fights, if you like watch 2 men who are supposedly fighting hug & have 1 be held down for 15 mins..

That's MMA, it's not always going to be action packed striking and KO's. You do what you do to win. You don't seem to have a grasp on this concept.

well I'd suggest you find a brick & go smash up the first police car you find (prefarably with a cop inside). You will be sent to a place were this sort of thing happens quite regularly.. you might even get lucky & get to experience it yourself.

I suggest you get over your homosexual hang ups. You seem to have a problem with two men hugging, even if they're locked in combat.

Ha. Tell me another joke.

"Brock doesn't really need to stand with anyone" that's a good one!

Brock dropped Mir (twice on 2 different occassions with punches I believe), Brock dropped Herring (also twice in the same match with standing punches I believe) & finally he dropped & TKO'd Randy Couture, a man who out boxed Gonzaga (still a HW in the UFC) & to a lesser extent Tim Sylvia, from standing punches.

The major factor in ALL of Brocks wins have come from his size, not his striking ability. His is striking ability is poor and needs lots of work but he still has the ability to drop someone if he connects due to his strength and size.

So really when you think about it & send your little pea brain into overdrive, his standup isn't that bad at all. You could easily make a case for Lesnar being able to beat anyone that the 3 men hes dropped with punches have beat, using standup.

No dice, his stand up is poor and needs work. This is common knowledge man. His fight with Carwin proved that.

It is pretty irrelevant anyway, with Lesnar's wrestling ability, size & speed, he doesn't really need to stand with anyone. He can take them down & smash their face in.. or use his Brock-itsu on them.

The Carwin fight proved that Brock can be hurt and when faced against some with decent size & wrestling ability, his TD's can be stuffed and he can be tossed around but mainly it proved he can be beaten.

 

[BlackLantern]

anyone can be beaten.....but Carwin threw the kitchen sink at Brock and still lost...

and if Lesnar beats Velasquez, what will his critics say then?? what other fighter will they throw their banner behind??

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Nelson or Galactus. Idk, the "Brock sucks" crowd will find somebody

 

[El Bastardo]

This is just ridiculous.

Quick! Subject change!

LOL STEROIDS