Ozy cast

[Captain Carnage]

T'ain't no Black Freighter sailor in this script, me hearties.

 

[Souperman]

Yes there is.

 

[blind_fury]

I like an unknown actor.

He can blend in the role much better than a famous celebrity. Most people would see Jude Law onscreen rather than Ozymandias.

 

[Compi716]

Yes there is.

Uh-huh.

And, pray tell, how do you know that?

 

[matrix_ghost]

I remember reading that Snyder was thinking how to work the Black Freighter stuff into the movie.
He wanted to film that as well . If it will be filmed , it would've been included in the dvd because otherwise the movie would've been too long.

 

[Captain Carnage]

We get a shot, maybe two, of the kid reading his Tales of the Black Freighter comic alongside the NEWS VENDOR (neither character is referred to as Bernie/Bernard).

Quite how you could integrate those sequences effectively into the movie escapes me, anyhoo. They're a purely comic book based device, working perfectly in the medium for which they were created and intended.

Besides, Snyder is killing off Veidt at the end of the movie. Since the Black Freighter subtext is supposed to mirror his descent into personal damnation and guilt, what exactly is the point in including it if all you're gonna do is kill his ass at the end?

 

[keith_v]

I think that the one role in the film that should have been played by a star was Ozy. Tom Cruise would have been perfect, but the character is just too similar to Cruise in real life. I really liked the idea of Jude Law, too.

But with the way Snyder's casting this film, the actors are just too young. I won't bash the movie without seeing it, but the young cast is really troubling.

Especially since not only is the actor playing Ozy about 29, he looks like he's only 20!

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

I think that the one role in the film that should have been played by a star was Ozy. Tom Cruise would have been perfect, but the character is just too similar to Cruise in real life. I really liked the idea of Jude Law, too.

But with the way Snyder's casting this film, the actors are just too young. I won't bash the movie without seeing it, but the young cast is really troubling.

Especially since not only is the actor playing Ozy about 29, he looks like he's only 20!

I think the thing is that they need to have actors playing the characters in 1964 as well as 1985. That's 21 years of difference. Ackerman is about 29, I think... and the thing is, with Silk Specter at least, she needs to be 16 and 37. Making a 29 year old look 37 or 16 is easier than making a 37 year old look 16 or a 16 year old look 37. They didn't have to cast Rorschach really young, because you only see his face in 1985. Jackie Earle Haley is 46. Patrick Wilson is 34... which right near the middle of the two ages
Nite-Owl needs to be shown at. Billy Crudup is 39, and Doctor Manhattan will be, at any point in the movie "still goddamned thirty." Age-wise, I think Snyder is going in the right direction with the casting.

 

[toddly6666]

The casting of Mathew Goode could be just a good choice as Jude Law. I've seen Goode in MATCH POINT and IMAGINE ME AND YOU, and his acting shtick is that he usually plays likable, eventhough he is sort of lacking emotion and a bit to in love with himself. To me, he seems like a bisexual actor, sort of the same as Jude Law, Jonathan Ryse Myers, and Michael Pitt. So, he sort of fits as the flamboyant, likable, cocky Ozy. The non-Watchmen fan audience wouldn't think that Mathew Goode would be the bad guy if that's what the producers are going after. I see Jude and Mathew as equals, only that Mathew Goode is cheaper and not so famous.

 

[Katsuro]

I think, age-wise, this casting makes sense. Like someone said above, they cast Rorschach the right age, since he's the only one we only see in '85, and Doc Manhattan doesn't even age. Everyone else has to age quite a bit over the course of the film, so it's best to cast young then make them look older.

My only disappointment is that most of these people i've never seen act.
It's hard to visuallize this movie, not knowing half the cast.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

My only disappointment is that most of these people i've never seen act.
It's hard to visuallize this movie, not knowing half the cast.

Same here.

 

[TNC9852002]

I've never seen Goode with blonde hair...So,

-TNC

 

[logansoldcigar]

I think the thing is that they need to have actors playing the characters in 1964 as well as 1985. That's 21 years of difference. Ackerman is about 29, I think... and the thing is, with Silk Specter at least, she needs to be 16 and 37. Making a 29 year old look 37 or 16 is easier than making a 37 year old look 16 or a 16 year old look 37. They didn't have to cast Rorschach really young, because you only see his face in 1985. Jackie Earle Haley is 46. Patrick Wilson is 34... which right near the middle of the two ages
Nite-Owl needs to be shown at. Billy Crudup is 39, and Doctor Manhattan will be, at any point in the movie "still goddamned thirty." Age-wise, I think Snyder is going in the right direction with the casting.

Agree with this.

Ill add to it as well: whilst Tom Cruise or Jude Law may have brought the clout to get an increased budget for the movie (and Tom Cruise would have been great symmetry to the role, cos he is the most famous man on the planet right now), the problem is, does it make it a Tom Cruise (or Jude Law) vehicle, rather than an ensemble piece?

 

[Karem-Knight]

I'm disappointed with Law not getting the part, Not likeing the guy being cast he might be a good actor and all but his age and look worries me.

 

[StorminNorman]

Wow. Arguably the Biggest Movie Star In The World in Tom Cruise at one point to this. Quite some jump.

WATCHMEN sure is shapin' up to be the Biggest B Movie In The World at this rate.

For years, we've been told that Jude Law would sell his soul to appear in a Watchmen movie, being such a huge fan an' all... Rorschach tattoo and everything.

That someone with his Hollywood clout hasn't fought tooth 'n' nail rings alarm bells with me - perhaps his being such a true fan IS the reason he actually didn't want a part? Mebbe he didn't like what Snyder's got planned, especially for Ozymandias?

Killing him off, for one thing...

My god, you are annoying

 

[Captain Carnage]

Ignore me then, ya colossal super-prick.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Seriously dude, you are devoting all your posts to bashing the script you supposedly read. Even the when it's not the topic you drift of to the same old, same old. That's just getting troll-ish to the point of annoyance.

 

[Captain Carnage]

OK, OK... let's change the subject to summat a little more deservin' of everyone's time here, then, on a Super Hero discussion forum in the run-up to the greatest example of sequential art storytelling to ever grace the medium being filmed after twenty years of false starts and Development Hell.

As much as I, along with so many others, hope that Snyder includes a big blue schlong in this movie because hey, there just aren't enough movies out there featuring big blue schlongs and, to me, that's the most enduring and radical concept that Alan Moore came up with in Watchmen... which of the characters wears the best hat?

It's gotta be the kid in Chapter One with the wings on his cap for me, every time.

Hats. Go for it.

 

[StorminNorman]

Ignore me then, ya colossal super-prick.

If I ignore you, then I can not enjoy your words of wisdom. Though your opinion often opposes me, and your style often leads me to find your posts irritating - you are intelligent.

And I would prefer you leave my colossal super prick out of this, kthxbye. :heart:

 

[StorminNorman]

OK, OK... let's change the subject to summat a little more deservin' of everyone's time here, then, on a Super Hero discussion forum in the run-up to the greatest example of sequential art storytelling to ever grace the medium being filmed after twenty years of false starts and Development Hell.

As much as I, along with so many others, hope that Snyder includes a big blue schlong in this movie because hey, there just aren't enough movies out there featuring big blue schlongs and, to me, that's the most enduring and radical concept that Alan Moore came up with in Watchmen... which of the characters wears the best hat?

It's gotta be the kid in Chapter One with the wings on his cap for me, every time.

Hats. Go for it.

See, it is brilliant posts like this that prevent me from ignoring you. Yes - I know the entire thing is a tongue-in-cheek parody (mostly of me, though I don't want to seem egotistical).

Yes, I want the Watchmen to be handled with the upmost respect, however that doesn't mean I am going to be overly anal and jump to titantic, Doc Manhattan in Vietnam sized conclusions - which you do on a regularly basis - normally in regards to ZS and a ye olde script. If actual concrete evidence shows ZS completely missing the mark - then I will join you in your attempts to launch flaming suicidal babies into ZS foolishly chosen convertible. However, at this time the only thing we have to judge is Zach Snyders words (which though could be easily fake, ooze fanboyism and enthusiasm) and strongly rumored casting choices (none of which I have a problem with...none but perhaps Laurie at least).

 

[Captain Carnage]

Stormin, with those last two posts, I think you've gone and proved who the intelligent one here is.

What a refreshingly pleasant change to the usual SCREW YOU *****E LOL which my online buffoonery has been known to attract on occasion (no, really.)
Sincere thanks, man.

And apologies for the prick thing. (oo-er)


I can't offer anything in the way of concrete or even cheap ballast at the moment; if I could, trust me I would. I await Snyder's appearance at Con on Friday with baited breath - IF he fields any Q&A (dunno how likely that is, the WB slot is only pencilled in for ninety minutes and they've a lotta movies to big up), then it might go some way toward proving/disproving that which I strongly suspect to be the case... which I'll then gladly share with the class and show my workings out for extra marks and everything.

 

[StorminNorman]

Stormin, with those last two posts, I think you've gone and proved who the intelligent one here is.

What a refreshingly pleasant change to the usual SCREW YOU *****E LOL which my online buffoonery has been known to attract on occasion (no, really.)
Sincere thanks, man.

And apologies for the prick thing. (oo-er)


I can't offer anything in the way of concrete or even cheap ballast at the moment; if I could, trust me I would. I await Snyder's appearance at Con on Friday with baited breath - IF he fields any Q&A (dunno how likely that is, the WB slot is only pencilled in for ninety minutes and they've a lotta movies to big up), then it might go some way toward proving/disproving that which I strongly suspect to be the case... which I'll then gladly share with the class and show my workings out for extra marks and everything.

There is place is big enough for the two of us.

The question is if it is big enough for the two of us, Carmine Falcone and my ego.

 

[cookiva]

There is place is big enough for the two of us.

The question is if it is big enough for the two of us, Carmine Falcone and my ego.

Guh, Carmine will overpower the watchmen forum.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Matthew Goode is like 25 years old. Poor idea.

 

[Steelsheen]

just color his hair blonde, give him a tan and he should be pretty close to the comic version.

good casting. lets hope he can act the part.