Rise of the Silver Surfer PG Rating: DISCUSSION

[Spider-Fan]

Temple of Doom was the first 13 rating. Lucas and Spielberg were going to get an R rating so they went to the rating board and had them invent the rating. Another movie got the rating at the same time but I can't remember which one. Maybe it was Red Dawn.

The wikpedia thing above, movie websites, and the feature on the bonus materials disc where they discuss the movie all say it was released PG, and parents complaints got Spielberg to campaign for a new rating.

 

[Cristo]

Man...it's rated PG. I truly think the Fox executives have lost their damn mind.

Rated PG For sequences of action violence, some mild language and innuendo.

http://ropesofsilicon.com/news.php?id=6295

The epic movie about the Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, and Galactus...rated PG?!?

What the hell is going on? 92 minutes and PG? AHHH!

 

[DieSmiling]

Temple of Doom is definitley PG, although it is the movie that spawned the PG-13 rating...

 

[Symbiotic]

I want an explanation from Story on this. I'll live with it, but I wanna know why.

 

[coreymb16]

Man...it's rated PG. I truly think the Fox executives have lost their damn mind.

Rated PG For sequences of action violence, some mild language and innuendo.

http://ropesofsilicon.com/news.php?id=6295

The epic movie about the Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, and Galactus...rated PG?!?

What the hell is going on? 92 minutes and PG? AHHH!

They can have some epic PG movies.

 

[TheShadowCat]

Temple of Doom was the first 13 rating. Lucas and Spielberg were going to get an R rating so they went to the rating board and had them invent the rating. Another movie got the rating at the same time but I can't remember which one. Maybe it was Red Dawn.

From the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom trivia page on IMDb:

Generally credited (along with Gremlins (1984)) with the creation of the PG-13 rating, as many felt the scenes of violence in both movies were too much for a PG rating, but not enough for an R rating. It is widely believed that had Steven Spielberg's name not been on both movies, both may have received an R rating. (The Flamingo Kid (1984) was the first film to be *given* a PG-13 rating, but sat on the shelves for five months before being released.) Red Dawn (1984) was the first motion picture released with the PG-13 rating.

>^^<

 

[NQ-B]

I don't know if this will make any difference to the people that don't want the film to be PG.
But the first film was PG in the UK, I know the rating system would be slightly different. But still, It had the same seen of Doom blowing a hole through the guy in the parking lot and him throwing the guy agaisn't the wall.

 

[Tempest19]

They can have some epic PG movies.

EXACTLY- some people for God knows why can't get that fact through that thick skull of theirs.

These anti-PG'ers have yet to make a statement that doesn't make me laugh.

 

[Cristo]

The only epic 90-minute PG movie I've seen was the first Shrek.

 

[Tempest19]

Is time limit a problem? Yes... should have been longer.

Is rating a problem? Hell no... that's just stupid, look at AOTC- that's PG, was that film not epic?

 

[Cristo]

The only reason AOTC got a PG rating is because it was Star Wars.

Name ANY movie after the 90s besides Star Wars that was an epic PG movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Wasn't the Chronicles of Narnia PG? That was epic.

 

[xwolverine2]

EXACTLY- some people for God knows why can't get that fact through that thick skull of theirs.

These anti-PG'ers have yet to make a statement that doesn't make me laugh.

yea like eragon......................................

the star wars movies(prequels) got more and more violent as they got bigger...

never have i seen a movie go from pg-13 to pg......even HARRY POTTER is pg-13 now... and even slowly looking like an R rated movie.lol

 

[xwolverine2]

Wasn't the Chronicles of Narnia PG? That was epic.

but how/where was the action?
i know action isnt more important than everything else but damn... it should be good.

anything religious is considered pg by the mpaa

 

[Spider-Fan]

but how/where was the action?
i know action isnt more important than everything else but damn... it should be good.

anything religious is considered pg by the mpaa

The Lion got sacrificed pretty violently, plus the final battle, several chases. There was plenty of action.

Plus, the power cosmic is the Surfers main weapons. Fisty cuffs are not his style, and that is what gets things higher ratings. Plus, the energy blasts I am sure will not cause much blood.

 

[Tempest19]

The last scene of TV SPOT 8 showed me all I needed to know to know that there would be a lot more action than the first film.

Ben is hit into a wall, crushes the wall and Reed behind him.

Imo, that is more hard punch than Ben knocking Doom against a wall.

Let's rank Johnny Storm's flight so far- personally I see us getting a way more epic flight in FF2, just from what I've seen, than the flight scene in the first film.

Finale fight wise? Hmm... having the end of the world while Super Skrull Johnny knocks Doom around- sounds a lot more epic in scope to me.

I think those were really the only "action" scenes you can count in FF1, apart from the Johnny and Ben scene... and guess what? FF2 has about THREE more action sequences that I haven't even listed- and all of these make the action sequences are seriously out there, those who also actually knows what those are would most likely agree with that.

So, action wise? FANTASTIC FOUR 2 HAS MORE EPIC ACTION THAN FANTASTIC FOUR DID.

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To those saying, "not epic"- in scope- do you have anything to back your points? Anything??? LMAOL. Or are you just "PG- not epic, that's it... screw clips, screw the story- PG, not epic." Which doesn't really make any sense- AT ALL.

I can flat out tell you that nearing the end, if they keep it as it was, it got seriously dark and SERIOUS in tone... you felt the presence of Galactus arriving. I won't get any more into it than that. Yeah, the beginning is fun and light- but then it switches gears and becomes 'end of the world' serious.

Most people, at least most non-ignorant people, know that it is the SCRIPT and how the SCRIPT makes it to screen that counts.... NOT RATING.

The film length IS important.

Does film rating make a movie epic or not epic? You'd seriously have to be stupid to think that.

It's not the rating that counts, it's how well a SCRIPT is brought to the screen.

 

[enterthemadness]

PG and 92 minutes long. Oh...I knew the book would be better than the film. Besides PG or PG-13, the trailers and tv spots...aren't really exciting me that much.

 

[NQ-B]

Complaining about the rating isn't going to help. Either see the movie or don't.
Your never going to now how much action, and how epic this FF PG movie is unless you see it, so what's the point of debating about it.
If it's done it's DONE!

 

[Sentinel X]

Okay nobody is stupid for thinking that a PG rating will affect the film
Face it, usually epic PG films are watered down and probably do not have the cool action it could have. The combination of the PG rating and the short running time is whats getting people worried...it shaping up to be more like the next Shrek movie instead of an action packed superhero film. And I know, the Incredible was PG and had more action than the FF..but the Incredibles was animated and people take animation a lot less serious than real life, having a live action film that is about saving the world from cosmically powered extraterrestrials as PG movie is a disappointment in my book but that doesn't mean that Im saying this movie is going to be crap...Im just worried

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ No the fact is studios just have not been making epic PG films as they should be. I wouldn't call this movie EPIC in scale either. The story sort of is but it's a self contained film.

 

[Blanket-Man]

Obviously, I'm in the vast minority, but I'm happy to see the PG rating. My almost-8-year-old son has been begging me to see FF2 for weeks - now I feel like I won't have to pre-screen it before taking him.

As others have pointed out, there wasn't all that much PG-13 worthy stuff in the first one - I'd say Doom's blowing a hole in that board member in the garage was probably the clincher, and the film wouldn't have suffered much without that scene (if it was supposed to show us how EEEEE-VIL Doom was, it failed anyway!).

 

[Spider-Fan]

Where I see a problem is people getting countless examples of movies post PG-13 being founded being PG and not "kiddie" and epic, and making excuses they were not PG-13. I mean, it seems like people have some weird stigma with the rating, when there are tons of examples of PG being quite good. But, of course the good ones get chalked up as "should have been PG-13".

That I find to be an incorrect way of thinking.

 

[Tempest19]

Worried over what? Lmaol.

Dude, there is no point in this. All that matter is how well a script is brought to the screen.

Someone brought up Eragon? Well, there were fans of the book that said that the film butchered it. And sorry to tell you, the film itself wasn't that great- and do you want to know the obvious key reason behind that? They didn't translate the script (which was just okay) to screen that good. It's not that the film was PG, lol.

Time length matters, because there is a chance that they took out important character evolving scenes that are needed to tell the story the way it has to be told. This fits into adapting the page to screen. If scenes that are meant to be in the film are cut, then- that's bad.

Sending a film into the MPAA does not reflect the movie, all it does is say whether a film is PG or PG-13. Which, these days, there isn't really a difference between at all.

The only scene that we may lose is Doom killing that one security guard, that's it. But, we wouldn't even lose that entirely- it would be set up more Hitchcockian, editing around that- "what you don't see is sometimes more disturbing than what you see." Have the guard and Doom in the room, show start of action- cut out- have FF arrive and see the effects of what Doom just did, easy as that and story wise you don't lose anything. The point is still brought across.

 

[Kelly]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

What did that ant EVER DO TO YOU......nothing.......


you murderer.............

 

[Tempest19]

But, of course the good ones get chalked up as "should have been PG-13".

That I find to be an incorrect way of thinking.

Exactly dude, it's funny- isn't it?