Pilot that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima dies at 92

[The Mighty Wind]

I think that last sentence was if Germany/Japan had won and ravaged America there wouldn't be any blacks or Jews left.

I would hope so. I'm clearly not Memphis's biggest fan but I hope this is simply a failure to realize the connotations that "at least" brings.

 

[Jerry!]

The only fan Memphis has is SurfDUI and that being the only one because they go down on each other about the Colts.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Um... first of all the US didn't help rebuild Hiroshima at all. It's STILL in ruins.

Second of all, I don't care what somebody does, it doesn't justify using a bomb that can wipe out an entire city. Innocent lives must NEVER be killed. If you kill, you become just as guilty. If you support the killer you're a pawn of "the devil" (I'm just putting this is Christian tense)

Third: Using the abortion argument was irrelevant

Fourth: Backing that up by saying: "You said it isn't ok for children to die but look at this!"

I don't care about you're little diagram. That's just as bad. It's still taking innocent lives. "Judge ye not your fellow man lest ye be without sin." What about: "Let he without sin cast the first stone"? You can't say that all of us on here think that abortion is wrong. Sure there is a select few who are pro-abortion but you can't pin that against the rest of us buddy.

And I noticed how you liked to post the American flag everywhere? I'm sure your proud that you guys don't have terrorism huh? Look into the CIA my friend Patriotism is a mediocre belief that will brainwash you to fallow your leaders and their ridiculous decisions.


Now Slim, don't go ignoring my post again

I'm bumping this up a page so MemphisSlim doesn't Miss it.

 

[Kelly]

300,000 / 3 million

tough decision, but one that had to be made....

 

[Memphis Slim]

Um... first of all the US didn't help rebuild Hiroshima at all. It's STILL in ruins.

Of course it is! IT'S RADIOACTIVE! But we did help the wounded. And you know that's what I'm talking about! And we helped Germany too! What other country would have done that?? Germany? Japan??

Second of all, I don't care what somebody does, it doesn't justify using a bomb that can wipe out an entire city. Innocent lives must NEVER be killed. If you kill, you become just as guilty. If you support the killer you're a pawn of "the devil" (I'm just putting this is Christian tense)

So keep sending in wave after wave of our soldiers to be shot and blown up trying to invade Japan? that's your answer? Because that's the only one left.



Third: Using the abortion argument was irrelevant


How? You heard my case for the comparison......answer it!


Fourth: Backing that up by saying: "You said it isn't ok for children to die but look at this!"

I don't care about you're little diagram. That's just as bad. It's still taking innocent lives. "Judge ye not your fellow man lest ye be without sin." What about: "Let he without sin cast the first stone"? You can't say that all of us on here think that abortion is wrong. Sure there is a select few who are pro-abortion but you can't pin that against the rest of us buddy.

Oh pleezzz...I really tired of people like you who never even pick up a Bible trying to pick out verses that you don't even care about in the first place......nor do you know what they mean! The Bible says that there is a time for war and a time for peace. Even God will one day make war with those that hate him and they will be judged. God does not demand that a husband stand idlely by and let someone steal from him, rape his wife and kill his children. He is to defend them with his own life. That means fighting!! That's what Americans did in that war!

And I noticed how you liked to post the American flag everywhere? I'm sure your proud that you guys don't have terrorism huh? Look into the CIA my friend Patriotism is a mediocre belief that will brainwash you to fallow your leaders and their ridiculous decisions.


Good Lord....... I truly feel for my children.

Now Slim, don't go ignoring my post again

 

[Memphis Slim]

I think that last sentence was if Germany/Japan had won and ravaged America there wouldn't be any blacks or Jews left.

You have a problem believeing that statement??

Auschwitz
____________________________________________________

Blacks and the Holocaust​

There were from 20,000 to 24,000 Africans in German from 1933-1945. Many of these Africans married German women and sired half African and half German children. They were called "Rhineland Bastards," others sired what they called "Illegitimate children," with German women, also called Rhineland Bastards. Many of these Africans sufferer the same fate as the Jews did during the Holocaust. Many African Americans serving as soldiers in world war II became POW's sufferer the same fate, as well as Africans from Senegal and other colonized French countries. So you can see brothers and sisters why I am angry as hell, everybody takes advantage of us and use us at their convenient. For more information, there is a book titled "German's Black Holocaust, by Firpo W. Carr, Ph.D.
The sterilization programs of Blacks were instituted by Germany's most senior Nazi geneticist, Doctor Eugen Fischer, who developed his racial theories in German South West Africa (now Namibia) long before World War I. In Namibia, Fischer claimed there were genetic dangers arising from race mixing between German colonists and African women.

There is photographic evidence of German genocidal tendencies in Africa. In 1904 the Herero tribe revolted against their German colonial masters in a quest to keep their land. It was a rebellion that lasted four years and led to the death of 60 000 Herero people ó 80% of their population. The survivors were imprisoned in concentration camps or used as guinea pigs for medical experiments, a foretaste of things to come.

Hitler's Forgotten Victims shows that Germany's 24 000-strong black community were the number-one target for Hitlerís sterilisation programme. Hitler's view on racial superiority did not develop in a vacuum. He was influenced by the work of the 19th- century German zoologist Ernst Haeckel, whose views were based on distorted versions of Darwinism. He wrote of woolly-haired Negroes incapable of higher mental development.

The Nazis' obsession with racial purity and eugenics was provoked and intensified in 1918, following Germany's defeat in World War I. Under the terms of the peace treaty signed at Versailles, Germany was stripped of its African colonies and forced to submit to the occupation of the Rhineland. The deployment of African troops from the French colonies to police the territory incensed many Germans.

To many it was the final humiliation that began with their 1918 defeat in the World War I. Germans complained bitterly in newspapers and propaganda films about African soldiers from the French colonial army having relations with their women. As soon as Hitler reoccupied the Rhineland in 1936, he retaliated by targeting black people living there. At least 400 mixed-race children were forcibly sterilized in the area by the end of 1937, while 400 others disappeared into camps.



So yeah.....I can safely say that Jews and Blacks would have been exterminated if Japan and Germany had won.

 

[Jerry!]

I never said I disagreed.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Excuse me? People like me? Are you crazy? I have been reading the bible since I learned to read! And not "go to church and have the priest be selective" like you said, selectiveness is wrong I like to read it. Beginning to end. Now you did not post responses to exactly what I said in your quote, did you? No you bolded selections of what I said to make me look bad. (This selectiveness of quotes is something you said you hate )

Your reply to my first point, you think "helping" justifies dropping an atomic bomb on somebody?

To your second reply:
No that is just as bad. I did not say that at all.

Third:
I did answer it. Regardless I posted a repost and so did others proving how it is Irrelevant.

Fourth:
I understand what those mean. You obviously do not. God's war of judgment is a reference to after life genius. It's symbolic. Too many Christians take quotes too literally. One of the things that made the manifestations of God so great was their vast understanding and they're greater uses of symbolism. I didn't say "God demands a husband to stand by-" I said God doesn't want us killing each other. What do you mean I don't follow it? I haven't killed anyone! Judge me not my friend! I only posted those quotes because I thought you, as the devout Christian scholar you are (right?) would take an understanding in those quotes. Also there is a difference between defense against terrorists and mutating and killing innocent people (making YOU the terrorist).

Now answer this one question. Pretty simple. Yes or No ONLY.

Should innocent people be killed, Yes or No?

Now a request.

Give me the quote you mentioned of God saying he will wage literal war. I want the reference too. Book, Page, Line etc. You wanna post info like that? Back it up home boy.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

You have a problem believeing that statement??

He never said that. You infer wrong, way to often.

You said

"At least the blacks and the jews will be killed"

Which confused us. The use of "At least" made it sound like it was an optimistic response. Patent Pending was just trying to find a reasonable response. Which he did and you proved right. That they would be killed first. Simple as that. Not the at least part. "At least" in that context is a bit misleading

 

[Kelly]

Asteroid man, you are simply trying to pick a fight to look cool. Chill out.

 

[danoyse]

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION

I mean...since we can show photos of Japanese children after the bomb, this is fair game too.

This reminds me of something I saw in NY after 9/11. It was at the armory on Lexington Ave, about a week after the attacks. Someone put up a big flyer in the middle of all the missing person flyers comparing the number of lives believed lost in the WTC against the number of abortions every year, calling it "terrorism in the US."

And like your WWII example, Memphis...they have nothing to do with each other.

 

[Addendum]

God does not demand that a husband stand idly by and let someone steal from him, rape his wife and kill his children. He is to defend them with his own life.

Yes, a husband should protect his family from harm. But that doesn't justify the husband blowing up the apartment complex where the criminal and his family live

 

[SentinelMind]

There are military experts who suggest that dropping the bomb (or second one at least) was not necessary to ending the war. However, I really do not want to engage in Monday night quarterbacking on these guys, they had rough decision and there no assurance they or their country would live to see tomorrow. It's easy to second guess others when you're in the spectator seat in the comfort of the home your parents and grandparents helped build. We should learn from Hiroshima, but its not fair to make an assertion what military leaders should have done NOW that you have all the information which they didn't have.

 

[Kelly]

Truth....

 

[PemLam]

There are military experts who suggest that dropping the bomb (or second one at least) was not necessary to ending the war. However, I really do not want to engage in Monday night quarterbacking on these guys, they had rough decision and there no assurance they or their country would live to see tomorrow. It's easy to second guess others when you're in the spectator seat in the comfort of the home your parents and grandparents helped build. We should learn from Hiroshima, but its not fair to make an assertion what military leaders should have done NOW that you have all the information which they didn't have.

It wasn't a decision made by military leadership...it was by the political leadership. But you're right, we shouldn't Monday morning quarterback but what fun would these boards be if we didn't?

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I also find it ironic that the same folks on this board care so much for children but are okay with this............

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION

I mean...since we can show photos of Japanese children after the bomb, this is fair game too.

I don't think being pro-choice has anything to do with partial borth abortion.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

They don't want to listen. I've said that 4 times already. Blame the Japanese government. Don't blame America for defending herself.
As the old saying goes, "I may not have started the fight. But I'll sho' nuff finish it."

The U.S. finished it.

and I have asked more than 4 times.
how was hitting a non military target "defending yourself"?
it's like your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
how did killing children and women and old men make the US safer?
especially since the fire bombing had already crippled Japan's infrastructure?
does this mean that you support killing civilians in wartime? does this mean that you find the 9-11 attacks justified since a war had been declared and US citizens had been pulled into a dangerous situation by their government?


or does it only apply to foreigners?

 

[Mr Sparkle]

There are military experts who suggest that dropping the bomb (or second one at least) was not necessary to ending the war. However, I really do not want to engage in Monday night quarterbacking on these guys, they had rough decision and there no assurance they or their country would live to see tomorrow. It's easy to second guess others when you're in the spectator seat in the comfort of the home your parents and grandparents helped build. We should learn from Hiroshima, but its not fair to make an assertion what military leaders should have done NOW that you have all the information which they didn't have.

oh gawd this is dumb.

what information didn't they have?

did they NOT know that Hiroshima was not a military target? again, how was the target chosen if no information on it was available?
how did they have no assurance their country would live to see tomorrow?
was not the infrastructure of Japan severely crippled and the axis powers in ruins?
had there not been probes for peace and surrender from the Japanese? ( by admission of the US)
you're right though.
it is easy to "second guess" the decision, because it was inhuman, simple as that.

 

[noesbleed]

But it gave rappers so much dope material...

"I drop bombs like Hiroshima...yo!"

 

[Mr Sparkle]

300,000 / 3 million

tough decision, but one that had to be made....

what? what are you talking about?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Asteroid man, you are simply trying to pick a fight to look cool. Chill out.

No I'm not. I'm not being a troll. I have my rights to post my opinion and do reposts. I'm not causing any tension here. I'm simply discussing this topic which is encouraged on these boards.

This reminds me of something I saw in NY after 9/11. It was at the armory on Lexington Ave, about a week after the attacks. Someone put up a big flyer in the middle of all the missing person flyers comparing the number of lives believed lost in the WTC against the number of abortions every year, calling it "terrorism in the US."

And like your WWII example, Memphis...they have nothing to do with each other.

He won't listen anymore...

Yes, a husband should protect his family from harm. But that doesn't justify the husband blowing up the apartment complex where the criminal and his family live

Hahahaha t: This is such a great example!

There are military experts who suggest that dropping the bomb (or second one at least) was not necessary to ending the war. However, I really do not want to engage in Monday night quarterbacking on these guys, they had rough decision and there no assurance they or their country would live to see tomorrow. It's easy to second guess others when you're in the spectator seat in the comfort of the home your parents and grandparents helped build. We should learn from Hiroshima, but its not fair to make an assertion what military leaders should have done NOW that you have all the information which they didn't have.

Exactly

and I have asked more than 4 times.
how was hitting a non military target "defending yourself"?
it's like your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
how did killing children and women and old men make the US safer?
especially since the fire bombing had already crippled Japan's infrastructure?
does this mean that you support killing civilians in wartime? does this mean that you find the 9-11 attacks justified since a war had been declared and US citizens had been pulled into a dangerous situation by their government?


or does it only apply to foreigners?

You got him spot on and that's why he isn't replying.

Either way I hope this pilot burns in hell.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

what? what are you talking about?

She's saying that it was either 300,000 Japanese or 3 Million Americans. She's on Slim's side which is why she told me to back off of the topic which I refuse to do because I have the right as a member of the Hype and a human being to post my free opinion and have a civilized discussion on a topic such as Hiroshima.

 

[noesbleed]

He's saying that it was either 300,000 Japanese or 3 Million Americans. He's on Slim's side which is why he told me to back off of the topic which I refuse to do because I have the right as a member of the Hype and a human being to post my free opinion and have a civilized discussion on a topic such as Hiroshima.

She

 

[Asteroid-Man]

whoops. My bad.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

She's saying that it was either 300,000 Japanese or 3 Million Americans. She's on Slim's side which is why she told me to back off of the topic which I refuse to do because I have the right as a member of the Hype and a human being to post my free opinion and have a civilized discussion on a topic such as Hiroshima.

I think he is actually a she.
and there's no way that's what she meant.
because that would be INSANE!
Japan was nearly gone, there was no Invasion threat from Japan, given the fact that they probably would've run out of fuel about 1/4 of the way here.
second of all, an invasion was unsustainable for them, since they were fighting pretty much alone by that time.

so, Jesus, I hope that's not what she meant, because she'd be wrong.
the Bomb was an atrocity, the second bomb was Inhuman, plain and simple.