Homecoming Please NO MORE ultimate version of villains!

[docdoc]

Before they choose to work with MCU, the one thing I hope for the next spider-man installment is to get rid of Marc Webb. That guy has the WORST vision of characters design and most of his ideas were inspired by the design from ultimate Spider-Man comics series it seems.

Now he's gone, good. Just give us back the classic designs of the villains, those costumes can easily get upgrade into modern versions. Look at Sandman from Spider-man 3, I think that was the most faithful looking villains out of all 5 spidey films and that was not a bad look.

I swear, if TASM 3 got made as planned, Marc Webb would definitely made Green Goblin a HULK like monster like the way he is in Ultimate series, which is going to be a nightmare.

Just upgrade their look base on the classic versions and we're good!

**Look at these test footages of the original design for Green Goblin in Spider-Man (2002), this is how based on classic looks like and it's so cool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fXAGC_B2Ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEZBhL5lpqg

 

[harryoscop]

That Green Goblin practically looks like a cartoon.
I'd take what what was in the actual movie over that, ANY day.

 

[ayyyylmao]

That Green Goblin practically looks like a cartoon.
I'd take what what was in the actual movie over that, ANY day.

TASM 2 goblin was the best because of how hilarious his transformation was

Lose it at the shirt ripping URRRRGH every time

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

out of all Ultimate books, Spider-Man was the one that interested me the least (propably because of Bendis writing) so I only read the first arc with Spidey fighting Hulk Abomination Goblin.
So, can someone please enlighten me about the ultimate designs of Spideys rogue gallery?

 

[harryoscop]

out of all Ultimate books, Spider-Man was the one that interested me the least (propably because of Bendis writing) so I only read the first arc with Spidey fighting Hulk Abomination Goblin.
So, can someone please enlighten me about the ultimate designs of Spideys rogue gallery?

I'm not sure what the op meant about the Ultimate designs...
Besides Electro, none of TASM's villains resembled their ultimate counterparts.

 

[harryoscop]

No hardly any resemblance.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Yeah, not really sure where this is coming from...

 

[Dasher10]

Rhino and Elektro were the only villains based upon their Ultimate counterparts.

 

[titansupes]

Webb's already gone, docdoc...

 

[Lord]

Poor Marc Webb, he's being considered the reason everything in those movies sucked when it was mostly the writers and the Studio's fault, the Director did have to agree with the designs and all that (envisioned by the writers and done by the designers, it's not as if Webb drew them), but it seems like he simply had a lot of pressure by the studio.

Before Spider-Man, he was a new young Director with a ton of potential, now after those films, he will most likely have a hard time being hired for another major production.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I liked the test footage for Green Goblin, I thought it worked well. But, to be fair, Sandman is much easier to adapt faithfully than Elektro. Sandman is just a guy wearing a striped shirt. Elektro has a pretty eccentric outfit. I'm not saying they shouldn't be more faithful, but I am arguing it's a false equivalent to say everyone is as easy to adapt as Sandman.

Out of most of those in the picture above, frankly all but Elektro probably could be adapted semi-faithfully. The most likely change would be color scheme (lose the greens, yellows, and purples in favor of muted black, brown, and gray). Not saying I agree or disagree with that, just that it's more likely. But I suspect Scorpion, for example, would look exactly like his comic counterpart. Mysterio I could see keeping the look but losing the color scheme. Doc Ock is the same way. I'd like less of Spider-Man 2's trench coat and more the costume with the boots and belt and all that. If I have to sacrifice the color pallet, I'd live with that.

 

[Rodrigo90]

No more Ultimate Nick Fury either!

Have him develop vitiligo and then recast with a white actor!

 

[PeterBenParker]

But..I like the Ultimate stuff.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

But..I like the Ultimate stuff.

save the love for the comics or that infantile cartoon... the movies have to be a representation of the TRUE 616 Spider-Man that everyone is aware of, not the Ultimate version which does not represent this world-wide iconic figure...

 

[Ultron-5]

Electro looked like his ultimate variation. The others were ultimate inspired but they hardly bared any resemblance to their ultimate counterparts.

 

[random_havoc]

Electro looked like his ultimate variation. The others were ultimate inspired but they hardly bared any resemblance to their ultimate counterparts.

Electro yes. The others were nothing like Ultimate. Even Rhino, both were mechanical but they were vastly different and lizard and goblin took nothing at all from Ultimate.

 

[random_havoc]

save the love for the comics or that infantile cartoon... the movies have to be a representation of the TRUE 616 Spider-Man that everyone is aware of, not the Ultimate version which does not represent this world-wide iconic figure...

I don't watch cartoons but Ultimate Spider-Man comic is was one of the most consistently high caliber comic runs out there for roughly 80 issues (before some dumb stuff started getting in there). The movies would be wise to take inspiration from a number of aspects of that run.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

I don't watch cartoons but Ultimate Spider-Man comic is was one of the most consistently high caliber comic runs out there for roughly 80 issues (before some dumb stuff started getting in there). The movies would be wise to take inspiration from a number of aspects of that run.

I've only read the Bendis/Bagley run of USM, but I haven't read the stuff after their run... I tried reading the Morales stuff, but he just NEVER sat well with me... I only viewed him as a usurper of the webs... the B/B run were an enjoyable read, so maybe a few here and there aspects might work, but nothing extremely major where it takes away from the 616 Spidey and he becomes more the Ultimate version in the films...

 

[Mike Murdock]

Electro yes. The others were nothing like Ultimate. Even Rhino, both were mechanical but they were vastly different and lizard and goblin took nothing at all from Ultimate.

I don't think it's unfair to say Rhino was inspired by the Ultimate Spider-Man version. Not a complete translation, but certainly more closely inspired than the 616 version. But I agree that those two are the only ones they can say that for. Certainly not Lizard. I have no idea where their version of Green Goblin came from, but it wasn't the Ultimate version.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Yes, I want the 616 Spider-Man/Peter Parker and the 616 villains, please.

 

[Lord]

I want a bit of both, depending on what works for the occasion, like the MCU has been doing.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Well, which ones do people think the Ultimate version is better (in looks or personality). I'm not a purist. Batman TAS version of Mr. Freeze is seen by many as the definitive version and the comics are better for it. But, when it comes to Spider-Man villains, I'm not sure the Ultimate versions are better. Even with Electro, he's less cheesy, but I'm not sure he's better.

 

[Human Torch]

Hear,Hear! No Ultimate versions!

 

[Lord]

I don't think anyone wants an all out Ultimate Marvel in film, what the films do is take from there what works better in the movies themselves. The Electro in the comics doesn't look very good, his mask expecialy is realy cheesy, however, that doesn't mean you can't have his personality from 616 intact. If they ever do Electro again, i think what they did in Spectacular Spider-Man could be ideal, with his suit being a way for him to contain all the energy.

Rhino in Ultimate Marvel is also pretty much a modern reinvent of the original idea, so i don't see much of a problem there, the film barely had anythink to do with either of those versions.

 

[HarryOsborn]

I don't think anyone wants an all out Ultimate Marvel in film, what the films do is take from there what works better in the movies themselves. The Electro in the comics doesn't look very good, his mask expecialy is realy cheesy, however, that doesn't mean you can't have his personality from 616 intact. If they ever do Electro again, i think what they did in Spectacular Spider-Man could be ideal, with his suit being a way for him to contain all the energy.

Rhino in Ultimate Marvel is also pretty much a modern reinvent of the original idea, so i don't see much of a problem there, the film barely had anythink to do with either of those versions.

I can't get behind that statement, at least not anymore. Audiences have embraced bright flashy costumes (Spider-Man, Cap, Superman), the shared universe, and bizarre properties like Guardians of the Galaxy. These comic book elements are proving over and over again to work with the general public more than previously assumed.

In a world where a guy with superpowers dresses up in red and blue spandex, an insecure loner, who craves power could dress up like a lightning bolt. See I like the idea of electro being a regular guy, he's actually a lot more of a foil to Peter Parker than most people realize. While Peter rejects and loathes his power, Max yearns for more as he doesn't understand the responsibility that comes with his power.