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Potentially terrifying surveillance/intelligence network at play in US

Discussion in 'Politics' started by The Question, Aug 12, 2012.

  1. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/trapwire-everything-you-need-to-know-2012-8#ixzz23Hv98Ttr

    What do you guys think?
     
    #1 The Question, Aug 12, 2012
  2. Schlosser85

    Schlosser85 Civilian

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    Call me cynical....but this didn't exactly blow my skirt up.
     
    #2 Schlosser85, Aug 12, 2012
  3. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    The fact that the government has the authority to arrest people indefinitely without proof or probable cause coupled with the existence of pervasive facial recognition software doesn't worry you?
     
    #3 The Question, Aug 12, 2012
  4. Schlosser85

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    Not that it doesn't worry me, it just doesn't generate the "GASP! SHOCK!" reaction the article was going for, considering the Enemy Expatriation Act which I blogged about months ago lets them do that too.
     
    #4 Schlosser85, Aug 12, 2012
  5. Midnyte_Sun

    Midnyte_Sun Medianoche de Sol

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    When I said privacy is dead in America, I meant it. There is no privacy, and it's mostly an illusion.
     
    #5 Midnyte_Sun, Aug 12, 2012
  6. Schlosser85

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    That's not breaking news.
     
    #6 Schlosser85, Aug 12, 2012
  7. Soapy

    Soapy Avenger

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    I thought all this was common knowledge. I'm not saying it's not shady as ****, but I've always lived under the assumption that the government was up to this kind of thing.
     
    #7 Soapy, Aug 12, 2012
  8. Webfoot Hero

    Webfoot Hero West Coaster

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    It's pretty easy to not show up on the radar: don't be planning any type of bombing, mass shooting, or assassination attempt that would warrant the government getting involved. Following the basic laws and using a bit of common sense easily helps in not getting a visit from law enforcement.
     
    #8 Webfoot Hero, Aug 12, 2012
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    Thundercrack85 Avenger

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    You're preaching to the same public that lets airport security manhandle their genitals. Good luck getting anyone to care.
     
    #9 Thundercrack85, Aug 12, 2012
  10. enterthemadness

    enterthemadness The Triumvirate

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    I am immune to this news. Only way this **** goes away is voting 3rd party.
     
    #10 enterthemadness, Aug 12, 2012
  11. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Yes, because the police only every arrest guilty people and never make mistakes. :whatever:
     
    #11 The Question, Aug 12, 2012
  12. Webfoot Hero

    Webfoot Hero West Coaster

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    Paranoid much? Seriously, most people will never be involved in a criminal investigation due to keeping their noses clean and living with an ounce of decency and common sense.
     
    #12 Webfoot Hero, Aug 12, 2012
  13. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Not paranoid, practical. You're right, most people won't get in trouble like that. But some will, and sometimes the police or FBI will make mistakes. Things like the thread topic make much harder to hold them accountable for those mistakes.

    It also gives the government a lot more power to abuse. Stuff like this is very dangerous to political activists, because there are many politicians and law enforcement officials who would benefit from them being out of the picture and this stuff gives them the power to take them out own the picture without facing consequences.
     
    #13 The Question, Aug 12, 2012
  14. Schlosser85

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    Some right-wingers tried to get the Occupy Wall Street protesters labeled as terrorists, which could theoretically have made them subject to the Enemy Expatriation Act and stripped of their citizenship, making it permissible to detain them indefinitely without charges.
     
    #14 Schlosser85, Aug 12, 2012
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