Potentially terrifying surveillance/intelligence network at play in US

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  1. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/trapwire-everything-you-need-to-know-2012-8#ixzz23Hv98Ttr

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Schlosser85 Registered

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    Call me cynical....but this didn't exactly blow my skirt up.
     
  3. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    The fact that the government has the authority to arrest people indefinitely without proof or probable cause coupled with the existence of pervasive facial recognition software doesn't worry you?
     
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    Not that it doesn't worry me, it just doesn't generate the "GASP! SHOCK!" reaction the article was going for, considering the Enemy Expatriation Act which I blogged about months ago lets them do that too.
     
  5. Midnyte_Sun Medianoche de Sol

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    When I said privacy is dead in America, I meant it. There is no privacy, and it's mostly an illusion.
     
  6. Schlosser85 Registered

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    That's not breaking news.
     
  7. Soapy Registered

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    I thought all this was common knowledge. I'm not saying it's not shady as ****, but I've always lived under the assumption that the government was up to this kind of thing.
     
  8. Webfoot Hero West Coaster

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    It's pretty easy to not show up on the radar: don't be planning any type of bombing, mass shooting, or assassination attempt that would warrant the government getting involved. Following the basic laws and using a bit of common sense easily helps in not getting a visit from law enforcement.
     
  9. Thundercrack85 Registered

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    You're preaching to the same public that lets airport security manhandle their genitals. Good luck getting anyone to care.
     
  10. enterthemadness The Triumvirate

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    I am immune to this news. Only way this **** goes away is voting 3rd party.
     
  11. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Yes, because the police only every arrest guilty people and never make mistakes. :whatever:
     
  12. Webfoot Hero West Coaster

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    Paranoid much? Seriously, most people will never be involved in a criminal investigation due to keeping their noses clean and living with an ounce of decency and common sense.
     
  13. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Not paranoid, practical. You're right, most people won't get in trouble like that. But some will, and sometimes the police or FBI will make mistakes. Things like the thread topic make much harder to hold them accountable for those mistakes.

    It also gives the government a lot more power to abuse. Stuff like this is very dangerous to political activists, because there are many politicians and law enforcement officials who would benefit from them being out of the picture and this stuff gives them the power to take them out own the picture without facing consequences.
     
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    Some right-wingers tried to get the Occupy Wall Street protesters labeled as terrorists, which could theoretically have made them subject to the Enemy Expatriation Act and stripped of their citizenship, making it permissible to detain them indefinitely without charges.
     

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