PS3 Launch Outsells Xbox 360 Launch

You're saying in NA alone. I'm saying that's wrong. Maybe combined with Japanese sales and sales elsewhere in the world, but not in NA alone. There have been PS3s sitting on shelves for a couple weeks each, they can't have gone that fast.

And I didn't even think they had shipped that many here yet.
 
Aren't a bunch being returned to stores or something like that?
 
The only report I've seen has said they "shipped" 1 million consoles to NA. Not sold them. And that's only furthered by the fact that there's been PS3's sitting on store shelves for weeks now.

Give it up, the PS3 has not sold 1 mil in NA yet.

The Microsoft sold = shipped thing probably applies to Sony as well, that being said Sony has still outsold Microsoft during the same period based on NPD numbers. Despite a negative spin being applied by people who don't want the PS3 to suceed, Sony is doing a better job of stocking their system in NA then Microsoft did during the same time window.
 
The Microsoft sold = shipped thing probably applies to Sony as well, that being said Sony has still outsold Microsoft during the same period based on NPD numbers. Despite a negative spin being applied by people who don't want the PS3 to suceed, Sony is doing a better job of stocking their system in NA then Microsoft did during the same time window.

For some reason, I doubt this, heavily. I have seen PS3s sitting on shelves for extended periods of time. I hardly saw Xbox 360's not being ripped off shelves until February.

:huh:
 
For some reason, I doubt this, heavily. I have seen PS3s sitting on shelves for extended periods of time. I hardly saw Xbox 360's not being ripped off shelves until February.

:huh:

well, you can doubt in one hand, and crap in the other, and see which one fills up quicker.

the reports are right there for everyone to read.
 
I know the PS3 will eventually overtake the competition,but i think this console had perhaps the most shaky launch ever.
 
Was the Wii controller not entered in the proceedings for innovation? I'd love to hear the judges argue the merits of each approach. I'm suprised the PS3 controller would win over something like the Wiimote.
 
For some reason, I doubt this, heavily. I have seen PS3s sitting on shelves for extended periods of time. I hardly saw Xbox 360's not being ripped off shelves until February.

:huh:
just bc they arent moving as quickl in your area doesnt mean that applies for all of NA. You are just one small sample size. There are still tons of places that are sold out and thats why they are getting these numbers
 
You're saying in NA alone. I'm saying that's wrong. Maybe combined with Japanese sales and sales elsewhere in the world, but not in NA alone. There have been PS3s sitting on shelves for a couple weeks each, they can't have gone that fast.

And I didn't even think they had shipped that many here yet.

Maybe because Sony has made more since launch than 360 did (maybe, I have seriously have no clue)? You can doubt all you want, not going to change facts.
 
Was the Wii controller not entered in the proceedings for innovation? I'd love to hear the judges argue the merits of each approach. I'm suprised the PS3 controller would win over something like the Wiimote.

well, you just can't play games the way you're used to with the wiimote... there's not as many buttons, and only a few games thus far have been able to do anything genuinely any fun with it.

the sixaxis is the best of both worlds... while not as innovative, it has the tilt function, plus the feel of a controller you're used to.
 
Dude, I couldn't adjust to the Sixaxis... I played MotorStorm with it and failed horribly :down

The Wiimote wins hands-down, innovation wise.
 
I've still not had chance to hold a Sixaxis, being European and all. While it will no doubt feel a little strange at first, I like to think I'll get used to it after a while.
 
Dude, I couldn't adjust to the Sixaxis... I played MotorStorm with it and failed horribly :down

The Wiimote wins hands-down, innovation wise.

Perhaps when Motorstorm is released in February it will have a sensitivity setting for the sixaxis just like Madden 07 does. I got fairly used to driving the trucks with the sixaxis controller but the motorcycle was way too difficult
 
Was the Wii controller not entered in the proceedings for innovation? I'd love to hear the judges argue the merits of each approach. I'm suprised the PS3 controller would win over something like the Wiimote.

Apparently it has something to do with Nintendo not being at the awards, so they weren't qualified for it or something. I don't know specifics, just that Nintendo was not qualified.
 
well, you can doubt in one hand, and crap in the other, and see which one fills up quicker.

the reports are right there for everyone to read.

Yes, but when Sony reports something I have no reason not to doubt them.

And.. Imdaly.. It's no surprise that they lied. They do it all the time.
 
Like I said, something smells foul here, and my doubt is only helped by this report.

In an important early look at the pivotal holiday sales season, Sony Corp. said it met its goal of shipping 1 million PlayStation 3 consoles to North America in 2006 despite ongoing production problems with the still hard-to-find video game system.

The figure is about half of Sony's stated goal of 2 million PS3s globally by the end of 2006. The company did not disclose a global tally in the announcement, made at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=AP&Date=20070107&ID=6320540
 
Yeah they've said they're going to be releasing Japan numbers shortly. THere's nothing foul here...
 
Yeah they've said they're going to be releasing Japan numbers shortly. THere's nothing foul here...

Besides the fact that shipped does not equal sold. Does not equal sold. Does not equal sold. One source says sold one million, one says they have SHIPPED only one million. One of them is wrong, and I'm thinking the one that alleges one million sold is the culprit. There's plenty foul here.

Especially since we're talking about 1 million in NA alone sold. That's ludicrous.
 
GI: Now you said its 2 million worldwide sold in?

Dille: It’s 1 million in North America. What we’re not talking about today is the Japanese numbers, but we will be announcing those soon in the Sony announcement that will come out of Japan.

GI: “Sold in” means the retailers have the units, correct?

Dille: Correct. What the sell-in number refers to is that we’ve shipped it, we’ve sold it to retail, and the fact that we got to a million was possible because we were air shipping these products in. If we had gone with a boat, there was no way we would have gone to a million. So we’re not playing games with the numbers. These were sold into retail, and you can image the retailer’s incentive: If they’re shipped on a plane, they can go up onto the shelves as quickly as possible. And really, as soon as they’re getting there, they’re evaporating. There’s a tremendous demand.

No you're right they ARE shipped numbers (as in sold to retail, as in how Microsoft met their 10 million 'sold' projection), but the sell through is a bit higher then you might think. It is to NA alone. PS3 is projhected to have sold like 750k (or maybe that was total) in december and they sold just under 200k in november. I thought you were generally doubting the shipment, not the sell through. Sold to retailers doesn't mean every unit is on the shelf, just that they're in the retails shipment channel (like out of the factories and have arrived at the 'drop off' points around the countryand are in the retail channel by truck or whatever).

Even though these numbers are shipped, Sony has still sold more then Micorosft to consumers, during the same period.

Sony really should have gone with DVD, though I'll be taking that back if BR ends up winning.
 
No you're right they ARE shipped numbers (as in sold to retail, as in how Microsoft met their 10 million 'sold' projection), but the sell through is a bit higher then you might think. It is to NA alone. PS3 is projhected to have sold like 750k in december and they sold just under 200k in november. I thought you were generally doubting the shipment, not the sell through.

Even though these numbers are shipped, Sony has still sold more then Micorosft to consumers, during the same period. Suprising, Sony is doinga far better job at replenishing shipments.

The presence of any source to say that Sony has sold more to NA consumers during the same time stands to be seen. I don't doubt that they shipped a million, but with the way they've been sitting on shelves in my town, and I've heard stories from Best Buy employees elsewhere.. yeah. It doesn't seem like they quite beat 900,000 here in North America. Maybe elsewhere, but not here.
 

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