Race and Gender in Marvel Movies - an all studios discussion

[Chance Jackson]

Topic

From Wikoogle -
It's strange to me that the Marvel Universe has 0 superheros of Indian origins.


http://community.comicbookresources...l-Universe-has-0-superheros-of-Indian-origins

Well there is Spider-man India but he is not part of 616 the only other South Asian Hero I can think of is Kamala Khan who is Pakistani

 

[mace1]

Well there is Spider-man India but he is not part of 616 the only other South Asian Hero I can think of is Kamala Khan who is Pakistani

There some indian superheros in marvel.
Some of the names are in link and you could see the list for asian superheros in Wikipedia and marvel wiki database above too or past pages and the comicvine links.

 

[mace1]

Thread: MSNBC claims "Silk is first Asian American Superhero"
http://community.comicbookresources...t-Silk-is-first-Asian-American-Superhero-quot

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think the fundamental issue is that a lack of diversity in creators will ultimately result in a lack of diversity of creations. So unless they are created for the sake of diversity, they tend to be rare.

Plus superheroes are also a rather American concept.

 

[mace1]

I posted a list of superheros of india created in india by indians and created for india by marvel in past pages.
There are some new indian superheros for dc too.

 

[Arach Knight]

I think the fundamental issue is that a lack of diversity in creators will ultimately result in a lack of diversity of creations. So unless they are created for the sake of diversity, they tend to be rare.

Plus superheroes are also a rather American concept.

Superhero comicbooks are an American concept, and one for which any and all Americans should be proud of as part of our wonderful culture. However, the idea of the superhero is hardly an American concept. Though the terminology and superficial elements may have differ, the idea of superhuman protectors is nothing new.

Hercules, Samson, Achilles, Lwanda Magere et al, are all superhumans that were heroes of their time. They may not have worn colorful costumes or had dual identities, but they had far more power than ordinary mortals and used those powers to defend their people. The tradition of superhuman heroes is old and as common as song and story among the people of earth.

And if we include non-powered heroes with the dual identity archetype, then The Scarlet Pimpernel beats out America's earliest costumed hero (The Phantom), and our most popular non-powered superhero (Batman), by some 30+ years. The Scarlet Pimpernel established the archetype of the wealthy socialite turned do-gooder that was later followed by Zorro and Batman. It is of note that The Scarlet Pimpernel is a creation of an English author, not an American.

 

[Taarna]

So, this idea was borne in the multitude of other Marvel movie threads where the discussion would go off onto tangents about racial and gender representation in CBMs. I didn't see a specific thread just to talk about race and gender issues in these movies, so I thought I'd start one.

I love Marvel movies, I love comic books and cartoons. Have ever since I was a child. I didn't think too much about the way women were portrayed in comics back then, either in cartoons or the media, not until I went to college and started to really look at the ways in which gender and race and ethnicity are depicted in television, movies, music…

Decades later, it's rather unimpressive.

Like I said, I do love Marvel movies. I do feel the films, certainly the ones from Marvel Studios themselves, are trying to carve places for women characters and characters of other races that aren't just stereotypical. They're scientists, soldiers, heroes, spies, CEOs… they have their own agency, their own identities. Yet, Marvel still has made no bold move towards a POC-centric movie or a female-led solo project. The current Avengers lineup is a single female without powers, though that's going to change in the next Avengers movie. The people who keep getting the leads in these films are white dudes, with the underrepresented divvied out for the supporting parts. That is, quite frankly, problematic. Though I really enjoyed it, the fact that The Wolverine is probably the closest we'll come to a Asian-centric superhero movie bugs me so thoroughly.

So, I open the discussion up with this article from USC: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/30/entertainment/la-et-mn-race-and-movies-20131030 and ask what y'all think? How can Marvel do better? Solutions, perspectives, etc.

Bring it on!

I'm not a fan of this.

Who's your favorite sports team? What they kept their logo, but moved into a different area of the country, would you care? Not a sports fan? Okay suppose your favorite restaurant changed ownership and had a new menu?

Part of the attachment for Marvel in my case was liking hero's or villains for who they are, and what they stood for. When you change that formula, you take away from what attracted you to the character in the first place.

Where are the African American Villains? There are next to none, as it would be viewed as political incorrect. A while back Marvel had an Arab villain in the Fantastic four in the early 1990's, and there was a huge backlash from the Arab community.

Fast forward to 2015, not only is political correctness at its peak, it seems like the media is going out of its way to force diversity. While diversity is welcomed,it should not come at the expense of someone else's heart.

Introduce new characters and stories don't
tarnish someone Else's personal favorites. And while I'm at it, its obvious the door only swings one way in terms of change. You'll never see a white guy playing the role of a famous historical or fictional minority character....and he shouldn't.

From an economics perspective, this could come back to bite Marvel. Unless of course the fan base of those who pay for comics these days is 50% women and minorities.

 

[SuperT]

So basically what you're saying is keep the status quo because if not, it'll piss off some ******** white boys? Got it.

I think the fundamental issue is that a lack of diversity in creators will ultimately result in a lack of diversity of creations.

BINGO! This it the biggest issue - all of the writers, creators, producers, directors etc. are all white men. Diversity and pulling together a wide range of characters from all ethnicities with depth and story is the last thing on their minds because it's not important to them.

That's the reason why more minorities have been more vocal as of late - you show them why it's important.

 

[terry78]

I am still mourning the loss of Dwayne McDuffie for this very reason.

 

[SuperT]

I am still mourning the loss of Dwayne McDuffie for this very reason.

Ugh yes.

 

[DoubleO88]

So basically what you're saying is keep the status quo because if not, it'll piss off some ******** white boys? Got it.

It's not just white boys, EVERYONE that grew up with the character. Most people don't hate race bending characters because their racist, it's because it's not the character. I don't see why that's so hard to see.

Also I'm not saying keep the status quo. But if you're going to race bend do it smartly, do it cool and do it so it makes sense. Like Michael Clarke Duncan as King Pin, Idris Elba as Hemdial. Laurence Fishburne as Perry White. But don't make Clark Kent black. That's not gonna work. I'd rather see a original black superman than a black Clark Kent.

 

[MbJ]

If they want a black Superman they can just use Val-Zod or Calvin Ellis.

Racebending is something I'm fine with unless we're talking legacy characters, because at that point you're letting existing minority properties go to waste. For instance I don't need to see them cast a black actor as Hal Jordan when there are already John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Simon Baz, Jessica Cruz, and Jade Yifei, who are all POC Green Lanterns. You could just use one of them instead.

Or it's the same reason I'm kinda eh on the idea of race lifted Peter Parker. You already have Miles Morales, Miguel O'Hara, Peni Parker (who is Japanese), or even more out of left field choices like Takuya Yamashiro (the Spider-Man from the 70's Toku show) that could be used instead if you want a minority as the new Spider-Man.

 

[Arach Knight]

I'm not a fan of this.

Part of the attachment for Marvel in my case was liking hero's or villains for who they are, and what they stood for.

And non-White Americans don't stand for the same values as White Americans? That idea is preposterous considering that the VERY alien Superman runs around in support of truth, justice and the AMERICAN way. Why is it believable that an alien from another world can share American values with White people, but making a character a minority some how means that people will not connect because the minority version will stand for something different?

Where are the African American Villains? There are next to none, as it would be viewed as political incorrect.

Do you read comicbooks beyond a passing interest? This is a serious question, because these days there are plenty of "comic fans" that are just fans of outside media representations of popular characters. There are MANY Black (note African American = / = synonym for Black) supervillains.

- Black Manta (DC)
- Apocalypse (Marvel)
- Prowler (Marvel)
- Cardiac (Marvel)
- Chapel (Image)
- Black Adam (DC)
- Black Spider (DC)
- Killer Croc (DC)
- Tombstone (Marvel)
- Man Ape (Marvel)
- Rocket Racer (Marvel)
- Vermin (Marvel)

And those are just off the top of my head based on characters I actually read (these are the enemies of Spawn, Spider-Man, Batman and Aquaman respectively).

You'll never see a white guy playing the role of a famous historical or fictional minority character....and he shouldn't.

First of all, we are discussing the portrayals of FICTIONAL characters. They do not exist. Their representation is all imagined and therefore mutable. Real life people are fixed points of reality. Your conflation of the issue is a false equivalency.

Second, White people have famously taken roles as famous people of color. Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra? Charlton Heston as Moses? Harrison Ford as Robert Stonehill, a completely reimagined and whitewashed take on Dr. Yuan Tsong-Chen, the doctor that led the research team that cured Pompe's disease? How about Ben Affleck as Antonio MENDEZ, a real life Mexican CIA operative. The list is quite long when it comes to White people playing the roles of real life minority figures, both historic and current.

And if we take a look at fictional characters, the situation does not improve. You have Liam Neeson, an Irishman, playing the Arab, R'as Al Ghul. You also have Marion Cotillard, a Frenchwoman, playing Talia Al Ghul, also an Arab character. How about every take on Baxter Stockman, who in the comicbooks, is a Black man? How about Angelina Jolie as Fox in the movie, Wanted? In the comicbooks, Fox is purposefully made to look like Halle Berry. Jake Gyllenhaal as the Prince of PERSIA? Johnny Depp as Tonto?

From an economics perspective, this could come back to bite Marvel. Unless of course the fan base of those who pay for comics these days is 50% women and minorities.

Yeah, because Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury sure set back the Avengers movies he was setting up in all of those end-credits scenes, right? Marvel used the Ultimate universe version of Nick Fury and fans have been amenable to Jackson's portrayal of the character. Jackson is certainly far better received than David Hasselhoff was when he took on the role in the 90s.

 

[mace1]

BINGO! This it the biggest issue - all of the writers, creators, producers, directors etc. are all white men. Diversity and pulling together a wide range of characters from all ethnicities with depth and story is the last thing on their minds because it's not important to them.

That's the reason why more minorities have been more vocal as of late - you show them why it's important.

There are women,folks of color and creators,artist and writers of color that are working or worked for marvel and dc,but not enough and there is always more room for improvement.
Of course there are writers,creators,movie makers artist etc. of color in asia and africa and other places worldwide too.



Some Examples for marvel and dc-
Larry hama
Greg pak
Reginald Hudlin
Kevin Grevioux

Originally posted
This is a really interesting person here.
My top favorite superhero now is the blue marvel created by this man.

Kevin Grevioux

Kevin Grevioux is an American actor, screenwriter, and comic book writer. He is best known for his role as Raze in the Underworld film series, which he co-created.

Kevin Grevioux

Grevioux at the 2013 San Diego Comic Con International in San Diego, California


Career
As an actor, he has been seen in such films as The Mask, Steel, Congo, Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes remake, and the 2003 vampire vs. werewolf film, Underworld.

Underworld was Grevioux's first produced writing credit. He came up with the original concept/premise and wrote the original screenplay along with director Len Wiseman, launching the Underworld franchise. He appears in the film himself as a lycan, Raze, and returned as the character in the Underworld prequel Underworld: Rise of the Lycans, which he will also be adapting into a comic book mini-series. He also expressed an interest in telling more Underworld stories in comic form if this proves successful.

Using Romeo and Juliet as an archetype, Grevioux based Underworld on his experiences with interracial dating and the tension that it often causes. He also brought a scientific element to the world of vampires and werewolves by basing vampirism and lycanthropy on a viral mutagen rather than the mysticism typically associated with these two mythic creatures.

Early 2006 saw Grevioux form two comic book imprints, Astounding Studios and DarkStorm Studios. Grevioux's Astounding Studios imprint was to focus on all-ages titles such as Valkyries, Guardian Heroes and The Hammer Kid. The Darkstorm Studios imprint was a more mature line, including the books Alivs Rex, Skull and Guns and Uzan, The Mighty.


Grevioux's voice is distinctively deep. In the commentary track of Underworld, he relates that during the promotion and launch of the film, many fans asked him if his voice had been altered by computer, and were surprised to learn that it had not been.


Grevioux wrote Marvel Comics' New Warriors volume 4. Grevioux also wrote Adam: Legend of the Blue Marvel, a character he created years ago as a young teenage comic book fan. The mini series was drawn by Mat Broome and Roberto Castro. He is also in the process of writing a story featuring Lee Falk's characters The Phantom and Mandrake the Magician, co-written with Mike Bullock. He will also be writing ZMD: Zombies of Mass Destruction for Red 5 Comics.


On December 2, 2009, Grevioux hosted a pilot episode for a concept series, Monster Tracker, on Discovery Channel.

He sold the original screenplay for the film adaptation of his Darkstorm Studios graphic novel, I, Frankenstein, to Lakeshore Entertainment, which also produced the Underworld films. The story follows the original monster of Victor Frankenstein who is the only force that stands between the human race and an uprising of supernatural creatures determined to overthrow the world. Filming began on February 27, 2012.


Grevioux is also an avid NFL Football fan. His favorite team being the Minnesota Vikings.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Grevioux


Blue Marvel (Marvel Comics)

Blue Marvel (Adam Bernard Brashear) is a fictional character, a comic book superhero published by Marvel Comics. The Blue Marvel debuted in Adam: Legend of the Blue Marvel # 1, (November 2008), and was created by actor/writer Kevin Grevioux. Grevioux originally had the idea for the character as a child.

There are black comic companies in america like milestone media and outside of america and movie makers like the black creator of meteor man.

 

[mace1]

Speaking of women and folks of color in comics and movies like writers,creators etc..i was meaning to post some things about that here for awhile just in case some folks want to know or are new here and did not know if there are women and people of color writers,artist,creators etc...
I just posted a link recently and i posted some stuff in the past in this thread.
Thanks for reminding me.


List of female comics creators - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mace1]

Meet the Women Who Are Changing Marvel and Comics - The Wire


How Nicole Perlman Became the First Woman to Write a Marvel Movie


The Woman Behind Marvel's Newest Team Of Heroines - NPR


Essential 8 Women Working In Comics - Yes, Gail, Boys Like ...


Meet The Woman Who Made History With Marvel's “Guardians Of ...


SDCC: Women of Marvel Comics Say, "You Can Do It!" - Comic ...

 

[mace1]

Jim Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Where the New Black Comics Writers Are | thenerdsofcolor




Black Writers & Artists - Comic Vine


Black comic artists and writers - Black Comic Book Day


Africomics.com! The Black Comic Book and Black Superhero Portal.

 

[mace1]

MILESTONE MEDIA Is Back

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Milestone Media 2.0 is here -- but don't call it a comeback.

The Washington Report has news that the 1990s publishing company has been revived by the surviving founders with plans to relaunch its characters across comics and other mediums. Discussions about reviving Milestone Media began in the wake of the death of co-founder Dwayne McDuffie, with Reggie Hudlin, Denys Cowan and Derek Dingle forming what the Hudlin calls "the core of Milestone 2.0."

Originally founded back in 1992, Milestone began publishing comics in 1993 as an imprint of DC Comics. Although DC later integrated some of Milestone's characters into DC's core superhero line (including Static in the 2011 New 52 relaunch), Milestone retained ownership of all its characters and had merely licensed usage of the characters and the content they produced in the 1990s.

Hudlin says the trio have been at work the past two years "sorting out all the business" in relation to reviving Milestone, and are planning to show off artwork from upcoming Milestone comics titles as soon as Comic-Con International: San Diego this year.


In addition to reviving Milestone characters of the past, the trio said they'll also be introducing new characters and including new creators in the mix.

Newsarama will have more on this as it develops.


http://www.newsarama.com/23285-milestone-media-comes-back-to-live.html

 

[mace1]

The first comic book with an all-Native American superhero team returns
Conversation with Jon Proudstar about the return of his comic book series, 'Tribal Force.'

Conversation with Jon Proudstar about the return of his comic book series, 'Tribal Force.'
http://www.hcn.org/issues/46.3/the-...an-all-native-american-superhero-team-returns

 

[mace1]

DC Comics Does Diversity: Gene Luen Yang to take the helm of DC’s Superman (and other awesomeness)!

Last year, Marvel announced efforts to broaden the diversity of their superhero lineup; only to run their main Marvel universe through the shredder this year and possibly erase all those gains. Meanwhile, both DC and Marvel have been criticized that even when they elevate the profiles of non-White and non-male superheros, previous efforts have stumbled due at least in part to failures to implement behind-the-scenes diversity initiatives; thus, earlier announcements have come across as transient pandering that lacks connection to the actual experiences of women and minorities while failing to produce opportunities for minority creators.


Today, DC announced its own radical shift that would be taking hold of the DC superhero universe in the coming months. No, not another Crisis: DC announced a major roster change in the creative teams behind several ongoing titles as well as the launch of several new books, all with the general goal of “broadening” the focus of the DC universe. In layman’s terms? DC is diversifying their superheros, and it turns out that they’re going to do it the right way: behind-the-scenes as well as in front.

MarySue is all over the news, highlighting the launch of two new titles that feature strong female superhero protagonists -- Black Canary and Starfire. This will be Starfire’s first solo title, and notably, she’s received a costume redesign that (finally) covers her top half (although, of course, she’s still wearing booty shorts). In addition to a limited run Harley Quinn/ Power Girl (which may feature the new Power Girl, Tanya Spears who is Black and also apparently awesome) miniseries, these newly launched female-led titles will join ongoing series featuring Catwoman, Harley Quinn, Batgirl and Wonder Woman, making DC’s newly announced efforts one of the most inclusive comic lineups with regard to women.

With regard to racial diversity, a few (but not that many) characters of colour will also be promoted to solo title status; most notably, Cyborg will get his own series, written by current author of Shaft, David Walker. The cover of We Are Robin also features several Robins, including both women and people of colour. The new title, Midnighter, will focus on a gay male lead character.

But the real news here is what’s going on behind-the-scenes: DC’s newest slate of creative teams features an almost unprecedented number of women and minority creators. For the New 52 relaunch, less than 1% of DC’s writers were women. In this new announcement, six women (or 17% of all writers, a big deal in the traditionally male-dominated comics industry) will be women. Even more importantly, several of the female writers will be writing female protagonists: Meredith Finch will be writing Wonder Woman, Gail Simone will continue her work on Secret Six (which includes several female characters), Amanda Connor will co-write Harley Quinn, Starfire, and the Harley Quinn/Power Girl mini-series, and Genevieve Valentine will write Catwoman.

Today’s announcement is also a big deal for Asian American comic book writers and artists. Greg Pak, who has done phenomenal work for both DC and Marvel, will be continuing to write Action Comics and Superman/Batman. The big news is that Gene Luen Yang, author of several award-winning comic books including American Born Chinese, Boxers & Saints, and The Shadow Hero will be making his DC Comics debut to take over the ongoing Superman series. DC reports that Yang will be charged with helping to depict Superman “in a more contemporary light”. Ming Doyle, one of the industry’s few Asian American female talents, will also be joining Constantine: The Hellblazer as a writer, and Dark Universe as an artist.

Teamed with artist John Romita, Jr., Yang will be the first Asian American to write the tale of DC Comics’ flagship superhero in his eponymous title; this is also symbolic because Superman’s story — with its immigrant narrative overtones — has long spoken to Asian American fanboys. As my good friend Will West (@williambwest) put it:

This is a pretty big deal. An Asian American is writing the American Dream superhero.

(Of course, Pak has been writing Superman through both Action Comics and Superman/Batman or some time, but you get the gist!)

Yang’s writing is just superb and stellar; I’ve been a fan for years. I haven’t been buying comics in a number of years; the addition of Yang and Doyle to a writing staff that already includes Pak’s strong work is making me change my mind on that decision.

As far as Asian American creative talent are concerned, Yang, Pak and Doyle will also be joined by several Asian American artists in driving the behind-the-scenes work for DC. Talented Asian American artists Bernard Chang, Sonny Liew, Ardian Syaf, Annie Wu and Billy Tan will pencil Batman Beyond, Dr Fate, Batman/Superman, Black Canary, and Green Lantern, respectively; Irene Koh is also working on art for Black Canary although she’s listed by BleedingCool and not included in DC’s official announcement.

DC says:

“This heralds in a new era for the DC Universe which will allow us to publish something for everyone, be more expansive and modern in our approach and tell stories that better reflect the society around us,” said DC Entertainment Co-Publisher Dan DiDio. “Whether you’ve been a DC fan your whole life, or whether you are new to comics – there will be a book for you beginning in June.”

I wonder if this new prioritization of diversity might also signal renewed interest in a new relationship with the new Milestone, too?


http://reappropriate.co/?p=7856

 

[mace1]

Thenerdsofcolor

Our Own David Walker is Writing Dynamite’s Shaft
September 16, 2014 The Nerds of Color

Big news from Dynamite Comics this morning! A few months ago, Dynamite — the independent comics company that specializes in comic adaptations of licensed media — announced they were doing a run based on the classic character Shaft, made famous by the 70s film franchise starring Richard Roundtree. In addition to all new comics and graphic novels, though, Dynamite also intends to republish the original novels by Ernest Tidyma.


This morning, the company announced the creative team on the books would be none other than fellow Nerd of Color David Walker with interiors by Brazilian artist Bilquis Evely! After the jump, check out the official announcement from Dynamite and a peek at the alternate covers for issue #1 (including a collabo between Denys Cowan and Bill Sienkiewicz that should probably be framed and hanging on your wall).

For weeks now, David has been posting some rather cryptic tweets hinting at a big project on the horizon. I guess the cat’s now out of the bag!

Dynamite Entertainment is proud to announce the signing of writer David F. Walker and artist Bilquis Evely to its upcoming Shaft comic book, based on the hard-hitting detective created by novelist Ernest Tidyman and popularized in films featuring Richard Roundtree and Samuel L. Jackson. Slated for release in December, Shaft #1 celebrates the 45th anniversary of an American icon with a wealth of cover art options by industry talents including Francesco Francavilla, Michael Avon Oeming, Ulises Farinas, Matt Haley, Sanford Greene, and a landmark collaboration between Denys Cowan and Bill Sienkiewicz.

Cover by Denys Cowan and Bill Sienkiewicz


John Shaft, described as a “tough, take-no-guff detective” and “private dick that’s a sex machine to all the chicks” in composer/singer Isaac Hayes’ Oscar-winning Theme from Shaft, has gone toe-to-toe with organized crime bosses, stood up to the cops, squared off against kidnappers, and foiled assassination attempts in his novel and film appearances. But who was John Shaft before he became the hardboiled investigator with a reputation as big as New York City itself? For the first time ever, the detective’s origins are explored, courtesy of the new series by Dynamite Entertainment.

Cover by Ulises Farinas

“Working on Shaft, one of the most iconic characters in pop culture, is a dream come true,” says David F. Walker. “I’ve been a fan of the character since I was a kid, and especially love him in his original iteration, as created by author Ernest Tidyman. My take on Shaft is steeped in Tidyman’s work, and builds on the world created in the original novels. I’m exploring who he is as a man, as a private detective, and as a cold-blooded killer. This John Shaft is much grittier, more badass, with a complexity never seen in the films. The name may be familiar, and some aspects of the character may be recognizable, but at the end of the day, he will be something new and exciting – especially in the world of comics. This is Shaft the way Shaft was meant to be.”

Cover by Michael Avon Oeming

Cover by Matt Haley

Bilquis Evely is a rising star on Dynamite’s roster of talented artists. Recently she worked alongside writer Chris Roberson on the critically acclaimed Doc Savage miniseries. Her other works include The Shadow/Green Hornet: Dark Nights crossover event with writer Michael Uslan, The Shadow Annual #1, and Miss Fury. Evely’s experience with Dynamite’s pulp heroes has made her the perfect fit for the mean streets of 1970’s New York City in Shaft.

Cover by Sanford Greene

“The response by the media and fans over the announcement of a Shaft comic book series was nothing short of electric,” says Nick Barrucci, Publisher and CEO of Dynamite Entertainment. “Frankly, there’s no one better suited to take the reins on this project than David F. Walker, whose vast knowledge of and appreciation for the genre have been welcome and invaluable in our launch of the Shaft series. Combining his energetic take on this superbad private detective with Bilquis Evely’s impressive artistic skills, and we have all the makings of an explosive comic for Shaft fans to love.”

Cover by Francesco Francavilla

Shaft #1 will be solicited in Diamond Comic Distributors’ October Previews catalog, the premiere source of merchandise for the comic book specialty market, and slated for release in December. Comic book fans are encouraged to reserve copies of Shaft #1 with their local comic book retailers. Shaft will also be available for individual customer purchase through digital platforms courtesy of Comixology, iVerse, and Dark Horse Digital.

http://thenerdsofcolor.org/2014/09/16/our-own-david-walker-is-writing-dynamites-shaft/

 

[mace1]

Where are the African American Villains? There are next to none, as it would be viewed as political incorrect. A while back Marvel had an Arab villain in the Fantastic four in the early 1990's, and there was a huge backlash from the Arab community.

Now getting back to this comment.
There are a number of black villains/supervillians in comics,in milestone media,marvel and dc and other comics book companies.
I was going to post a list but someone else did it,of course there are more.

There was even black villains in marvel movies,like elektra,the black kingpin in the daredevil movie and the black electro in the amazing spiderman 2 and other movies and even some dc movies.

 

[mace1]

David Walker a black writer for the comic shaft will be writing the new cyborg comic for dc.

 

[mace1]

You know,i almost forgot that this comic is out.
It's a solo series for the new black deathlok.

Henry Hayes (Earth-616)

Deathlok

Notes

• Some fans thought Henry Hayes, being an Afro-American Deathlok controlled at distance and with a close look, was seemingly inspired by Michael Peterson from Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. His first apperance in Original Sins #1 also used the clearance levels of S.H.I.E.L.D. in same way that the television series.

• According to Tom Brevoort, the Deathlok Vol. 5 series was indeed planed in reaction to Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. planing to implant their own version of Deathlok based on the Deathlok Vol. 2 series. Brevoort intended to use this opportunity to bring back Michael Collins, but the concept changed, ending up with Henry Hayes,[7] who is indeed close in some aspects from Michael Peterson.

The Cyborg Super Soldier Reborn this October in Deathlok #1

More on Marvel.com:
http://marvel.com/news/comics/23379...born_this_october_in_deathlok_1#ixzz3THdhTuB4
​

Henry Hayes (Earth-616) - Marvel Comics Database

 

[mace1]

If they want a black Superman they can just use Val-Zod or Calvin Ellis.

Racebending is something I'm fine with unless we're talking legacy characters, because at that point you're letting existing minority properties go to waste. For instance I don't need to see them cast a black actor as Hal Jordan when there are already John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Simon Baz, Jessica Cruz, and Jade Yifei, who are all POC Green Lanterns. You could just use one of them instead.

Or it's the same reason I'm kinda eh on the idea of race lifted Peter Parker. You already have Miles Morales, Miguel O'Hara, Peni Parker (who is Japanese), or even more out of left field choices like Takuya Yamashiro (the Spider-Man from the 70's Toku show) that could be used instead if you want a minority as the new Spider-Man.

There was even a black shazam and a black wonder woman called nubia.

There was Black supergirl and another black superman too.



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[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial]Naomi Campbell as Nubia~Wonder Woman. [/FONT]

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