[raises the Finger]

[fireman9586]

I always get annoyed when i see every comic have two creators and Batman has just Bob Kane. Finger was so important in the creation of Batman, that taking his name away is just like stealing. it should've always been "Created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger."

I raise the Finger

 

[The Watchman]

Shuster and Siegel werent credited with Superman from the begining, you never know, one day these people may come to their senses and give Bill Finger the credit he deserves

 

[akut401]

Quote from Wizard:

"Official credit may be out of the question. 'Short of adding his name to the credits, which I don't think can legally be done, I don't think there's anything DC can do,' says comic writer and historian Mark Waid. 'The Bob Kane estate is protected. Bob Kane's selfishness continues from beyond the grave."'


Apparently Kane had a foolproof document made up by lawyers that granted whenever Batman was in a comic, it had to be followed by a recognition to Bob Kane.....I guess the plan was so airtight that even if they put a "& Bill Finger" at the end, it would be illegal due to the Kane documents...

 

[hulk181]

I'm raising my finger!

 

[dude stannis]

"Official credit may be out of the question. 'Short of adding his name to the credits, which I don't think can legally be done, I don't think there's anything DC can do,' says comic writer and historian Mark Waid. 'The Bob Kane estate is protected. Bob Kane's selfishness continues from beyond the grave."'

How about having "This story is dedicated to Bill Finger" in every Bat-comic, it will also prompt more people to find out about Bill Finger.

 

[Joker]

yeah just put a "Dedicated To Bill Finger" in the byline of every bat-comic

 

[akut401]

thats true......maybe you should get a petition going (like those ever work) or write to DC with ideas.....

 

[emma_n22000]

Originally posted by lordsnipe
It's nice that Bob Kane is acknowledged in all comics that Batman appears in. What about Bill Finger? Where's his credit? He did just as much for the character as Kane did and you never see his name in a credits page.

Thank you, Mr. Finger, for fleshing out the thoughts, ideas, and dialogue that helped create the single most popular character in fiction ever.

You bring up a pretty good point, J. Spider-Man's creation is credited to both Stan Lee and Steve Ditko, so maybe Mr. Finger should get a mention.

But seeing as they've both shuffled off this mortil coil, there's not much chance in anything changing.

 

[snipe]

Originally posted by emma_n22000
But seeing as they've both shuffled off this mortil coil, there's not much chance in anything changing.

Many great artists and musical composers died penniless - their work only getting proper recognition after their deaths. I just want the man to get some credit for the contribution he made to pop culture and fiction in general.
Even in death it's nice to know someone appreciates you.

 

[dude stannis]

Very good avatar Lordsnipe, much better than 'Gay Collar Nightwing'.

 

[snipe]

Originally posted by dude love
Very good avatar Lordsnipe, much better than 'Gay Collar Nightwing'.

Check out the Nightwing History thread for some new Collar action images

Oh, and your sig is way too long. S'posed to be 3 lines or less. Wouldn't want someone to "mod-inate" you...

 

[Darthphere]

What if we protest by making a pickett line in front of Dc comics executive offices and giving them the finger until they give poor Bill the recognition he deserves.By the way im serious.

 

[fireman9586]

dude, DC is owned by Warner Bros. WARNER! you think they'd listen to fans!?

 

[snipe]

Originally posted by fireman9586
dude, DC is owned by Warner Bros. WARNER! you think they'd listen to fans!?

Yeah, they're so dense they might be thinking we were giving them the "you're number one!" sign, not the "finger."
Now every time I buy a comic I feel like I'm downloading music off Kazaa - it feels like I'm pirating since the true creator isn't getting paid for it

 

[dude stannis]

Oh, and your sig is way too long. S'posed to be 3 lines or less. Wouldn't want someone to "mod-inate" you...

Thanks for the warning milord. Whats "mod-inating"?. *runs overs to nightwing thread for some collar action*

 

[Captain Dumas]

not much more to say, but yea, finger deserves credit for batman.

*raises the Finger*

 

[CFE]

It's really a shame. To you, Mr. Finger (Raises the finger) . But Mr. Kane, the other one is for YOU, (Raises other finger!)

 

[Jugsy]

well it's nice to see that tubid republican rich boy nazi' didn't just screw with Marvel

*raises finger*

 

[snipe]

Originally posted by COMICFILMEXPERT
But Mr. Kane, the other one is for YOU, (Raises other finger!)

Let's not cruxify him - at least he came up with the idea.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah but he's a greedy bastard!

 

[Catman]

It would be great for Bill Finger to be acknowledged, but it will never make-up for anything. You see Finger is dead and he's been dead since 1974. For this to mean anything he should have been credited when he was still alive. It would have been great that before he passed away he would not only gotten credit, but seen Batman return to his dark roots.

[RAISES FINGER]

By the way, Frank Miller does acknowledge Bill Finger. Notice how he usually writes "Special Thanks to Bill Finger" in his Batman comics.

We should all follow in Miller's steps and have it say "Batman Created by Bob Kane with a special thanks to Bill Finger"

 

[ultimatefan]

I remember Year One was credited as "based on the works of Bob Kane, Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson".

 

[Themanofbat]

It's too bad, but Bill Finger, who ghost-wrote all the early Batman stories, should be accredited with having co-created Batman with Bob Kane. It's been a controversial issue among many fans and the two men alike, the most famous being in 1965, when Finger claimed that he was the sole creator at a comicdom convention (Kane wasn't there to rebuttle) and it escalated into quite the feud. While Finger died in 1974, Kane has always maintained his "sole creator" stance. But in his 1989 autobiography, he seemed to give Finger something ressembling his due. The truth will never be known, but it will be certain that Bob Kane will be immortalized as the sole creator of batman.



My personal opinion? I believe that Kane probably came up with the drawings and the art concepts, and he probably did get some writing help. It's not something I've given much thought to over the years, but I will always recognize Finger as his first writer.... and that's gotta be worth something.

Cheers...

 

[That-Guy]

Well, if all of this is true than it sounds to me like all Kane was to Batman was what a Hollywood producer is to a film. He sat there, came up with an okay idea, and then Finger really developed it into something special. I raise the finger too.

 

[kal_el28]

Finger also created Robin and many of the Batman's rogues gallery.

Bring on the Finger!
[raises the Finger]

BTW I like the idea of getting a whole heap of us out the front of DC saluting the Finger! - That'd be awesome.

BALE DAMMITT! - Oh yeah It's already happened!

Bow to my superiority Lordsnipe - it seems the circle is complete, the master has become the student!