Redemption and repentance in the Marvel Universe

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Quick pop quiz: what do all the following Marvel characters have in common- Black Widow, Hawkeye, Vision, Wonder Man, Prowler,Black Mamba, Diamondback, Asp, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver,Quicksand Thunderbolts, Airstrike and Seraph?

Answer: they all first appeared in the role of villains before becoming heroes(full disclosure: I'm writing a novel about the last two characters)? I am curious as to the reason they had a change of heart( or repentance/redemption if you wish to use religious language). What do you think?

Terry
 
Some of them weren't bad people to begin with but made bad choices. Quicksilver though is just a jerk who will speed to whatever side.
 
Don't forget Aunt May who was a evil stripper in Japan a century before Peter was born.
 
Who the f**k is Airstrike and Seraph?
 
Actually this post was inspired by the news that Quicksand has joined the Women Warriors of Delaware( the Initiative sponsored state super team). I was wondering as to what might have caused this change of heart(emotional and not physical- as a sandy elemental she has no physical heart)- genuine penitence for past crimes cannot be totally ruled out!
 
Quick pop quiz: what do all the following Marvel characters have in common- Black Widow, Hawkeye, Vision, Wonder Man, Prowler,Black Mamba, Diamondback, Asp, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver,Quicksand Thunderbolts, Airstrike and Seraph?

Answer: they all first appeared in the role of villains before becoming heroes(full disclosure: I'm writing a novel about the last two characters)? I am curious as to the reason they had a change of heart( or repentance/redemption if you wish to use religious language). What do you think?

Terry

Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were taken in by Magneto as teenagers while fleeing a mob and were easily manipulated into joining his terrorist group. None of them supposedly knew they were all related at the time. After a while, though, both left Magneto due to wanting to escape his abusive, dominating nature. Both have had spats of mental instability as well as longer tenures as Avengers.

Simon Williams was really nothing more than a white collar criminal, who embezzled funds from his own company. He was petty and jealous of others, such as Tony Stark, and conned into becoming Wonder Man by Baron Zemo and his "Masters of Evil" to do them in. As Wonder Man, however, he gained power to become a real hero and saw his "masters" as true villains who sought to kill the Avengers, not hold them for a ransom. He sacrificed his life to aid the Avengers and betrayed the Masters; he later got better, a few times.

Black Widow was a communist spy, manipulated and outright brain-washed into serving the Soviets in all sorts of nasty stuff; this partly why she is attracted to Bucky Barnes, formerly the equally brainwashed Soviet killer, Winter Soldier. In the 1960's, communism was bad and America was good, so eventually she defected.

Hawkeye was more a thief trying to impress Black Widow then a genuine Iron Man villain, so the shift to hero was more about realizing he was just not into her. That, and his old mentor the Swordsman was a criminal (so was Trick-Shot), so it was really about escaping bad environments.

Sandman I believe was eventually stated to be outright mentally ill, who had different aspects of his personality. One personality was a thug, burglar, and common criminal; the other was capable of attaching to others or even wanting to reform. Since exposure to Wizard's Id machine, however, Sandman's been in "villain" mode for years.

Diamondback basically fell in love with Steve Rogers/Captain America, fueling her siding with angels.

Vision was programmed with Wonder Man's brain patterns and thus absorbed his personality traits, which included the fact that he wasn't genuinely evil. This allowed the Avengers to appeal to him, and for him to turn on Ultron (and famously weep over the Avengers' generosity towards him). There was a time when Vision sought to take over all of the technology of the world via being corrupted by the ISAAC program and had his memory wiped, but he still chose to be a hero after that (albeit one who was distant towards Wanda after).

The Thunderbolts, or at least most of them, were led by Baron Zemo to pretend to be superheroes to fool the world before taking it over, but most of them genuinely enjoyed being heroes and later turned on Zemo (and I believe Fixer/Techno). Later on Zemo would have some anti-hero moments, although lord knows why.

Many of Osborn's 50 State Initiative recruits are just villains who are pretending to be heroes in order to better enrich themselves, either hoping the public forgives their past crimes (U-Foes) or going with new identities (Boomerang, who changed his guise to Outback).
 
Yes, but my whole point about Quicksand( who, much like Spidey, the FF, Hulk or Daredevil) in particular was that her transformation from flesh and blood to a sandy elemental was a result of a freakish accident and NOT(pace the U-Foes) a conscious choice-someobdy evidently thinks that she is salvageable. "Petty and selfish" she may have been as a human being, but NOBODY serves such a traumatic transformation(even if it was no worse than those endured by Bruce Banner or Ben Grimm). Also Banner makes the point in a conversation with Reed Richards and Michael Morbius that they could all have ended up as criminals like Dr Octopus in FF#267 were it not for their strong moral character!

Terry
 
Sometimes villains are better if they stay their current roles. For instance Vengeance from Ghost Rider mythos.

He was a Spirit of Vengeance that was supposed to be the violent potential of Noble Kale, a tool used by the host, Michael Badilino, to enact bloody revenge on the Ghost Rider who killed his parents. Badilino found out that Zarathos was responsible for killing his family and turned sides, only to eventually be taken over by the will of the spirit and cause untold carnage to the criminal underground and civilians. Right now he's back to being a villain and I think he truly belongs there.
 

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