Repo! The Genetic Opera

[Star]

Alright. I can't believe I'm going to waste my time saying all this but here goes. This is exactly why I didn't enjoy the movie. Why >I< didn't like it. No one has told me what they liked about the film, so I'd love to hear what you enjoyed about it. Maybe it could help me see what someone would enjoy about it. Don't bother telling me I'm ''stupid'' or that I'm not aware of what makes a good film, because that won't change my opinion on this.

The general style of the film seemed completely uncreative to me. The entire thing looked exactly like a Saw film, and played out exactly like one. The characters were shown 'discovering' things by having vivid memories represented in flashbacks (exactly like in Saw 3/4) Bousman has not a creative ounce in his mass, since all his movies are terribly strung together piles of crap. I loved the first Saw but after that, the movies lost their souls. This was like if Tim Burton was hit over the head with a pan a hundred times and tried to shoot a movie immediately afterwards: close, but no cigar. As I've already said, framing a movie with repeated flashbacks is not a way to further the plot.

I also felt that the songs themselves were completely forgettable, even as I try to remember them I can't at all. Maybe it was because I didn't enjoy the film but I feel that as a musical, it should have at least one or two catchy songs that 'stick with' the audience. These were not catchy at all nor were they good songs in general.


The entire thing felt like a drawn out goth metal music video-- and that is NOT a good thing in terms of a musical. I felt like I had been robbed of 100 minutes of my life after I watched it.

 

[Savage]

Yes but that is still a matter of opinion. You said "You can feel free to like it though, all movies have their own group of fans. That doesn't make them good movies though." That particular statement just struck me because it sounded like there was a specific definition of what a good movie is or what a movie needs to in order to be considered good. Like a shopping list.

 

[Star]

Alright, so what makes a good movie? I thought it was a matter of opinion, much like music, but apparently there's a criteria.

As I've said, there are certain people who will like certain movies. Every single movie in the world has fans.

However, there are some movies that are just generally agreed to be amazing by critics and film buffs alike. There are many, many factors that go into it. Style, cinematography, the writing, the characters, the message of the movie, how well the plot is delivered, and the acting quality all play a part.

 

[Star]

Also, I'm now unsubscribing to this thread. Say what you will about my opinion, but in the end my it doesn't effect you or your enjoyment of this movie.

However, I will assure you it will never, and has never been acclaimed as a good movie.

 

[Star]

Double posted

 

[Joker]

I never said you were stupid because you had grades. I said having good grades doesn't nessicarily mean you aren't a total dumb ass. And you were the one who said you didn't understand parts fo the movies (Zydrate Anatomy and Seventeen), and then when I explained them to you, you immediatly took it back and hid behind "I'm in flim school!" I don't wave around my education because really, it comes down to opinon. You are talking as if your opinion is the be all end all, and then trying to cover it up by saying "oh, but it's just my opinion." You're quite simply trolling, and yes, leave. You don't even realize you're doing it, which is the sad thing. I don't care if you didn't like the movie. It's not for everyone. But coming in and saying "it's a poorly made movie, and is quite simply bad, and my proffessors would agree!...oh, but that's just my opinion," or "what I think doesn't affect your enjoyment...but by the way, it still sucks" is just antagonizing.

And on the subject of what I liked about the movie...

1. The visual style. It was NOTHING like the Saw movies. The saw movies all have a brown and white color pallete, and a lot of earth tones. This used more neon, and darker, richer colors. The way the coreography was shot was also great, interesting to watch, while not turning into an overblown broadway thing like Rent.

2. The characters were all great, archetypical, larger than life opera style characters. Pavi and Luigi were both hillarious in their unabashed evil, perverse ways, as was the point (which you also seemed to miss, by saying you couldn't take it seriously...even the film makers have said it was supposed to be campy and funny at parts, especially the song you quoted).

3. The soundtrack was great. Zydrate Anatomy is one of my favorite songs, period, at this point. And stuff like Things You See In A Grave Yard, Legal Assassin, and Night Surgeon are all great too.

4. The performances of the actors were all great. Once again, Pavi and Luigi stand out. The way both of them moved, Luigi with his overly-macho, constant shirt tearing, and Pavi with his almost robotic movements made them both that much more arch, which is exactly what they were intended to be. Anthony Head did a great job too, altering his entire voice and way he moved depending on whether he was in the Repo Man persona or the Nathan Wallace persona.

5. The comic book scenes were creative and inventive. They never showed any of them more than twice, and even then it was from different perspectives. And the reason they did them wasn't poor film making, it was simply because they didn't have the budget to shoot proper flashbacks, with de-aged actors. It was a clever, and visually interesting way around it. Zdnuyich is a great comic book style artist, who has been drawing the characters in that style since it was a stage play, and it worked with the over all feel of the movie.

 

[Tyrinus]

I have to say the visual style of the movie was the best thing it had going for it. The music was good, but lyrics were crappy.

I did really like the use of comic panels for back story though.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

I enjoyed everything Repo had to offer. It's one of my favorite 'pop it in' films. I can sit and watch it start to finish and not get bored with it. My little nephew (he's 7) watched it one afternoon with me and he loved it. Don't know why, but he seemed to enjoy the music and visuals.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Alot of the songs are catchy. a damn shame what lionsgate did to this durng its "release" into theaters.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I am a film student. If you want to see some good movies see: Slumdog Millionaire, Bicycle Thieves, Wall-E, The Departed.... to start.

I found The Departed rather boring and just a typical crime drama, this film was more inventive and unique than that one.

Slumdog was great and I liked Wall-E though.

I thought Repo was good, not great. It was worth a view and I think it's visually very impressive, especially for its cost.

As for SAW losing its soul after the original, I think the original is the second weakest of the series behind SAW IV. I like Bousman enough as a director, but most of what he's done does have a James Wan on speed feel to it.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Alot of the songs are catchy. a damn shame what lionsgate did to this durng its "release" into theaters.

Lionsgate lost points with me for the treatment of this film, but then again, I understood their view point of it. If they treated it like Rocky Horror and made a big deal about midnight showings for this film, I think things could have gone better but they basicly ignored the film.

Honestly, this film was a bad major release film. I wouldn't have made a cent. Doesn't mean it was a bad movie, but it's not what a good chunck of theater goers would have gone to see. Rent it, watch it at home, YES, go to the theater? Not really.

 

[Magenta666]

I found The Departed rather boring and just a typical crime drama, this film was more inventive and unique than that one.

Slumdog was great and I liked Wall-E though.

I thought Repo was good, not great. It was worth a view and I think it's visually very impressive, especially for its cost.

As for SAW losing its soul after the original, I think the original is the second weakest of the series behind SAW IV. I like Bousman enough as a director, but most of what he's done does have a James Wan on speed feel to it.

dont forget, no matter what you think of the songs/visual style/or plot the concept itself was creative and interesting (same with the setting imo)

 

[Eelectro 2]

i gotta say, the only reason i had picked this movie up from blockbuster was because of the director. he did such an awesome job in the saw movies i had to give it a try. i ended up buying this movie because it was really good. usually i'm not a fan of musicals, my girlfriends taken me to see rent, phantom of the opera and all that kind of stuff and even tho i wouldn't ever own those, i definetly don't mind watching them if theres nothing else to watch. but the music and singing in this movie reminded me of why i first started listening to rock music as a kid. and it's pretty catchy. it was funny, had an intriguing story and was gory as hell (a plus for me).

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I thoroughly enjoyed this film. I thought it was a hell of a lot better than Sweeney Todd.

 

[xwolverine2]

Repo! The Genetic Opera = WORST MOVIE i have seen in a long time..


i cant believe its the same guy who did Saw....


complete s***... i was laughing at the terrrrrible songs which dont even make an attempt to ryhme or sound musical.

theres not ONE second of no singing in the movie... not one break!

its like they wrote the script and then added music to it.

its unrateable... on a Uwe Boll level.


damn that was baaaaaddddddd... i dont know how i made it to the end.. i have no idea.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

I would have to disagree with everything 'xwolverine2' said.

 

[Figs]

I do have to agree with just one thing xwolvernie2 said. The songs don't sound good, they don't rhyme or have any kind of hook or catch to them like most if not all musicals.

I noticed that just from the trailers alone. It does sound like they wrote the dialogue and just had them sing it instead of say it.

 

[xwolverine2]

and the movie was intercut with what felt like loading screens from video games of comic booky flashbacks... which they probably ran out of money to actually shoot.

i dont know who gave them 8.5 mil to make this...

 

[Majik1387]

complete s***... i was laughing at the terrrrrible songs which dont even make an attempt to ryhme or sound musical.

Why are you still thinking that in order for songs to be songs, they need to rhyme?

And how can you seriously say the song At the Opera Tonight, Crucifixus, Chase the Morning, or Gold don't sound musical?
I liked the other songs as well, but I can understand someone thinking they're not musical like the stereotype of musicals.

theres not ONE second of no singing in the movie... not one break!

Guessing you missed the songs by Sarah Brightman, Paul Sorvino, Anthony Stewart Head, and Alexa Vega.

 

[michephantom]

Would you consider Repo! gory? I didn't really. I mean, yes, there were scenes when a person's guts were being pulled out, but it wasn't cringeworthy like the saw movies. Oh, I'm probably very jaded. My roomate did not want to even hear me play the movie.

By the way, I loved the movie for what it was, a fantastic and somewhat trippy experience. The songs were stuck in my head, especially Thankless Job. Anthony Head was great (and bore a faint resemblance to lector at times).

Someday this will be added to my collection, right next to Phantom of the Paradise and Sweeney Todd.

 

[gwynplaine]

Never say never, sure, but I don't think I will ever watch a movie with Paris Hilton in it.

 

[xwolverine2]

Why are you still thinking that in order for songs to be songs, they need to rhyme?

And how can you seriously say the song At the Opera Tonight, Crucifixus, Chase the Morning, or Gold don't sound musical?
I liked the other songs as well, but I can understand someone thinking they're not musical like the stereotype of musicals.

Guessing you missed the songs by Sarah Brightman, Paul Sorvino, Anthony Stewart Head, and Alexa Vega.

hardly songs by any standard...


after watching this movie my eyes and ears will seriously need some "surgery surgery"

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

While I enjoyed the film, I do think it would have worked a hell of a lot better without the music.

 

[Majik1387]

hardly songs by any standard...

Umm, check the ones I mentioned again. Granted there were songs I could care less for, but to say that the songs are hardly music makes no sense.
And it does have an industrial feel to it. You may not like it, but it is music.

While I enjoyed the film, I do think it would have worked a hell of a lot better without the music.

It's a successful off-Broadway musical.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Umm, check the ones I mentioned again. Granted there were songs I could care less for, but to say that the songs are hardly music makes no sense.
And it does have an industrial feel to it. You may not like it, but it is music.

It's a successful off-Broadway musical.

And? The subject matter, characters, story, and visual style are good enough that it didn't really need the opera gimmick. That's more a compliment to the writer and director than it is a complaint. I feel the same way about Sweeney Todd