🇺🇸 Ridin’ with Biden: It's Joever

[Zarex]

Another tweet saying pretty much the same thing. I really wish this had happened a year ago so we could've had a primary. I have no faith that Kamala can win.

I don't know if Kamala's got what it takes to beat Trump, but putting her in over a severely compromised Biden is the right decision. Force voters to choose between an elderly convicted felon who staged a violent coup and a ethnically diverse woman with all her faculties. Throw in an exciting VP choice and it could energize voters and keep away (at least) eight years of nightmares.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

I don't know if Kamala's got what it takes to beat Trump, but putting her in over a severely compromised Biden is the right decision. Force voters to choose between an elderly convicted felon who staged a violent coup and a ethnically diverse woman with all her faculties. Throw in an exciting VP choice and it could energize voters and keep away (at least) eight years of nightmares.

She doesn't. She doesn't have the Rust Belt appeal that Biden has. Heck, I imagine she might lose some voters that would otherwise at least vote for Scranton Joe since, whatever you may think of Biden, Harris is even less appealing.

The fact that Obama has thrown his voice into the ring and said that Biden's chances have greatly diminished, which they have, at this point it's not a matter of when Biden may drop out, but when. He could stubbornly stick it out and indeed hurt down ballot races in November, but either way, it could be a messy DNC.

 

[InCali]

She doesn't. She doesn't have the Rust Belt appeal that Biden has. Heck, I imagine she might lose some voters that would otherwise at least vote for Scranton Joe since, whatever you may think of Biden, Harris is even less appealing.

The fact that Obama has thrown his voice into the ring and said that Biden's chances have greatly diminished, which they have, at this point it's not a matter of when Biden may drop out, but when. He could stubbornly stick it out and indeed hurt down ballot races in November, but either way, it could be a messy DNC.

We just don't know. No one can be certain about this kind of thing. Funny things happen in politics and we won't know until November. I think it's really a coin flip no matter what.

 

[Lily Adler]

We just don't know. No one can be certain about this kind of thing. Funny things happen in politics and we won't know until November. I think it's really a coin flip no matter what.

 

[Zarex]

She doesn't. She doesn't have the Rust Belt appeal that Biden has. Heck, I imagine she might lose some voters that would otherwise at least vote for Scranton Joe since, whatever you may think of Biden, Harris is even less appealing.

The fact that Obama has thrown his voice into the ring and said that Biden's chances have greatly diminished, which they have, at this point it's not a matter of when Biden may drop out, but when. He could stubbornly stick it out and indeed hurt down ballot races in November, but either way, it could be a messy DNC.

2016 Trump? No question. 2020 Trump? Probably not. 2024 Trump? I kinda like Kamala's chances. She's got at least a puncher's chance against relatively weak opposition in Trump, and maybe a bit more than that. Biden's diminished faculties clearly has scared voters off, and VP Harris's relative youth may appeal to voters in contrast to the doddering convicted felon. Outside of the deplorable cult voters have shown disdain for the choices this year, so VP Harris definitely has some room to work with.

 

[InCali]

2016 Trump? No question. 2020 Trump? Probably not. 2024 Trump? I kinda like Kamala's chances. She's got at least a puncher's chance against relatively weak opposition in Trump, and maybe a bit more than that. Biden's diminished faculties clearly has scared voters off, and VP Harris's relative youth may appeal to voters in contrast to the doddering convicted felon. Outside of the deplorable cult voters have shown disdain for the choices this year, so VP Harris definitely has some room to work with.

The "potential" is there. She might be able to appeal more to the youth, woman, and people of color votes, but, frankly, she's not a particularly charismatic person. To me, that's irrelevant, but, unfortunately, others don't share my views.

If she can turn the tables and make the election about Trump's views on abortion and his own mental capacity, she could possibly pull it off.

TBH, being a woman of color doesn't help when it comes to a large portion of the electorate. She will need to keep most of Biden's support in MN, WI, MI, and PA. From my perspective that's the big hurdle she's facing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

She doesn't. She doesn't have the Rust Belt appeal that Biden has. Heck, I imagine she might lose some voters that would otherwise at least vote for Scranton Joe since, whatever you may think of Biden, Harris is even less appealing.

The fact that Obama has thrown his voice into the ring and said that Biden's chances have greatly diminished, which they have, at this point it's not a matter of when Biden may drop out, but when. He could stubbornly stick it out and indeed hurt down ballot races in November, but either way, it could be a messy DNC.

Kamala has a different type of appeal. To women and POC that Biden does not. And if the Dems focus on stuff like abortion, something Joe is terrible at, it can help. Especially if you properly prosecute Trump and Vance on that subject.

She also hopefully won't alienate Muslim and Arab American voters.

 

[souvlaki]

So, what are the chances Biden resigns immediately if this all goes down? It might benefit Kamala a little if she's already President going into November.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Kamala has a different type of appeal. To women and POC that Biden does not. And if the Dems focus on stuff like abortion, something Joe is terrible at, it can help. Especially if you properly prosecute Trump and Vance on that subject.

She also hopefully won't alienate Muslim and Arab American voters.

That would be fine if abortion was the number one or even number two topic on the minds of voters this year, but compared to things like the economy, the political climate in the aftermath of the assassination attempt, and inflation, abortion isn't going to rank high.

This isn't even getting around to voters and delegates alike who pledged and still wish to back Biden, whose minds I don't see easily being persuaded by Harris and whoever she'd have as a running mate.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So, what are the chances Biden resigns immediately if this all goes down? It might benefit Kamala a little if she's already President going into November.

Low imo. It's going to take a lot to convince Biden. So I can't imagine it happens before the weekend. But who knows.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That would be fine if abortion was the number one or even number two topic on the minds of voters this year, but compared to things like the economy, the political climate in the aftermath of the assassination attempt, and inflation, abortion isn't going to rank high.

This isn't even getting around to voters and delegates alike who pledged and still wish to back Biden, whose minds I don't see easily being persuaded by Harris and whoever she'd have as a running mate.

1 in 8 is not bad. Especially as it's the type of thing that shifts votes. Especially for women.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/health/abortion-elections-kff-survey/index.html

There is no one invested in Biden that won't flip to Harris if it's her. They're Dem backers at heart first and foremost.

 

[InCali]

That would be fine if abortion was the number one or even number two topic on the minds of voters this year, but compared to things like the economy, the political climate in the aftermath of the assassination attempt, and inflation, abortion isn't going to rank high.

This isn't even getting around to voters and delegates alike who pledged and still wish to back Biden, whose minds I don't see easily being persuaded by Harris and whoever she'd have as a running mate.

Here's where I think you are missing something. This election isn't going to be a landslide. A "small" issue (which abortion rights isn't) could be a pivot point in the election. Sure the economy and inflation are big news, but inflation has been coming down and it's very likely we start seeing interest rate cuts in September. While there are a multitude of issues (esp housing), I think it's starting to sink in that things are heading in the right direction.

So, bottom line is if you see young people, suburban women, etc. start lining up behind a candidate, they've got a real shot to win." Good turnout, Dems win.....not so good, advantage Repubs.

 

[InCali]

So, what are the chances Biden resigns immediately if this all goes down? It might benefit Kamala a little if she's already President going into November.

VERY unlikely IMO, but if he thinks it will help defeat Trump? Who knows?

 

[souvlaki]

I'm just grateful the first debate was so early in the election cycle. I feel like the first debate is usually in like September. If they had debated in September there is nothing that could have happened at that point and we'd have been stuck with Biden as the nominee. I know short term it looks bad for the Democratic Party to lose their nominee, and all the bad press that comes with it, but I'm at least hopeful now that there is a chance whereas last week I was absolutely certain Trump was going to win.

 

[Ironfan72]

Biden will not resign, if he drops out of the race then he simply will not be running for president, he will still be president until the next election, Im still not sold on Kamala being the right choice, she has taken so much heat for not doing much and not appealing to many people, the accusation she gets alot is lack of enthisisum from her, maybe i am wrong and she energizes the base, especially women voters, and her running mate choice might help but it cant be the guy Hillary picked, almost think a Gavin Newsom from California would be a solid choice, but i can not think of anyone in the midwest that would be a good choice to help the rust belt, will see i guess, if Biden does drop out, wish he had made that chose months ago, but there is still time time, Trump is very beatable.

 

[Lily Adler]

I don't know if Kamala's got what it takes to beat Trump, but putting her in over a severely compromised Biden is the right decision. Force voters to choose between an elderly convicted felon who staged a violent coup and a ethnically diverse woman with all her faculties. Throw in an exciting VP choice and it could energize voters and keep away (at least) eight years of nightmares.

She doesn't. She doesn't have the Rust Belt appeal that Biden has. Heck, I imagine she might lose some voters that would otherwise at least vote for Scranton Joe since, whatever you may think of Biden, Harris is even less appealing.

The fact that Obama has thrown his voice into the ring and said that Biden's chances have greatly diminished, which they have, at this point it's not a matter of when Biden may drop out, but when. He could stubbornly stick it out and indeed hurt down ballot races in November, but either way, it could be a messy DNC.

Biden will not resign, if he drops out of the race then he simply will not be running for president, he will still be president until the next election, Im still not sold on Kamala being the right choice, she has taken so much heat for not doing much and not appealing to many people, the accusation she gets alot is lack of enthisisum from her, maybe i am wrong and she energizes the base, especially women voters, and her running mate choice might help but it cant be the guy Hillary picked, almost think a Gavin Newsom from California would be a solid choice, but i can not think of anyone in the midwest that would be a good choice to help the rust belt, will see i guess, if Biden does drop out, wish he had made that chose months ago, but there is still time time, Trump is very beatable.

 

[InCali]

Biden will not resign, if he drops out of the race then he simply will not be running for president, he will still be president until the next election, Im still not sold on Kamala being the right choice, she has taken so much heat for not doing much and not appealing to many people, the accusation she gets alot is lack of enthisisum from her, maybe i am wrong and she energizes the base, especially women voters, and her running mate choice might help but it cant be the guy Hillary picked, almost think a Gavin Newsom from California would be a solid choice, but i can not think of anyone in the midwest that would be a good choice to help the rust belt, will see i guess, if Biden does drop out, wish he had made that chose months ago, but there is still time time, Trump is very beatable.

Let's be clear.....if Biden drops out, there is no other choice than Harris for a multitude of reasons. Money is one thing, ground organization is another, and the bloodbath should someone other than her be picked would 100% doom the Dems chances in November. If Biden leaves the race, it's Harris and whomever she decides to pick as her VP. Plain and simple. Period. End of discussion. There's just no other option.

 

[Lily Adler]

Let's be clear.....if Biden drops out, there is no other choice than Harris for a multitude of reasons. Money is one thing, ground organization is another, and the bloodbath should someone other than her be picked would 100% doom the Dems chances in November. If Biden leaves the race, it's Harris and whomever she decides to pick as her VP. Plain and simple. Period. End of discussion. There's just no other option.

You forgot Hunter Biden...'s Laptop!

 

[blueharvest]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Biden will not resign, if he drops out of the race then he simply will not be running for president, he will still be president until the next election, Im still not sold on Kamala being the right choice, she has taken so much heat for not doing much and not appealing to many people, the accusation she gets alot is lack of enthisisum from her, maybe i am wrong and she energizes the base, especially women voters, and her running mate choice might help but it cant be the guy Hillary picked, almost think a Gavin Newsom from California would be a solid choice, but i can not think of anyone in the midwest that would be a good choice to help the rust belt, will see i guess, if Biden does drop out, wish he had made that chose months ago, but there is still time time, Trump is very beatable.

It will be a white, conservative man or at least one from a red state. Like Beshear or Cooper.

 

[Lily Adler]

It will be a white, conservative man or at least one from a red state. Like Beshear or Cooper.

Beto O'Rourke of course.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Federal appeals court blocks remainder of Biden’s student debt relief plan

A federal appeals court blocked the implementation of the Biden administration's student debt relief plan, which would have lowered monthly payments for millions of borrowers. In a ruling Thursday, ...

www.dailykos.com

 

[squeekness]

She doesn't. She doesn't have the Rust Belt appeal that Biden has. Heck, I imagine she might lose some voters that would otherwise at least vote for Scranton Joe since, whatever you may think of Biden, Harris is even less appealing.

The fact that Obama has thrown his voice into the ring and said that Biden's chances have greatly diminished, which they have, at this point it's not a matter of when Biden may drop out, but when. He could stubbornly stick it out and indeed hurt down ballot races in November, but either way, it could be a messy DNC.

Lord, I just want it to end.

 

[souvlaki]

The part that interests me the most is Biden not endorsing Harris and instead having an open convention with 4 candidates.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Yeah, not endorsing Harris is a mistake, if true. If you’re dropping out, which I think he should, the party has to unite around one person now.