I'm Not Messing Around, I'm Doing Important Stuff in The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

[Drizzle]

 

[Lily Adler]

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Oh no Elon created an SHH competitor.

 

[Ninjablade]

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Drizzy, light mode? Come on, what're we doing here

 

[Drizzle]

Drizzy, light mode? Come on, what're we doing here

I'm sorry, I can't see this post on account of my burned corneas.

 

[Ninjablade]

I'm sorry, I can't see this post on account of my burned corneas.

Drizz anytime he uses his phone:

 

[kguillou]

Superman encouraged me to revisit The Suicide Squad. I hadn't watched it since 2021 when it premiered on Max.

I do not say this lightly, this is a 10/10 movie. I forgot how excellent this film was. Probably the best film the DCEU outputted. Man, if only it didnt come out during Covid, this should have been a hit, such a freaking well done film.

 

[Flint Marko]

Just left Superman and yep, I’m more or less in love. I need 20 more movies with Corenswet as Supes pronto.

I’ve spent years rolling my eyes at all of the “SuPeRmAn iS sO hArD tO aDaPt” comments and feel so vindicated

My only real quibble would be the pacing, I think it was @Shinobi Shaw I saw say that script could’ve maybe used one more pass and I think I agree.

But it’s tough because I do like how it kinda just throws you into everything and doesn’t bother with the tedious world building of a character and universe we’ve all seen before.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Just left Superman and yep, I’m more or less in love. I need 20 more movies with Corenswet as Supes pronto.

I’ve spent years rolling my eyes at all of the “SuPeRmAn iS sO hArD tO aDaPt” comments and feel so vindicated

My only real quibble would be the pacing, I think it was @Shinobi Shaw I saw say that script could’ve maybe used one more pass and I think I agree.

But it’s tough because I do like how it kinda just throws you into everything and doesn’t bother with the tedious world building of a character and universe we’ve all seen before.

Glad it also got your seal of approval, my guy.

If Corenswet isn't Superman for the rest of his life, there's no hope for Hollywood. Just give him a tighter script next time, I say.

 

[Sithborg]

Superman encouraged me to revisit The Suicide Squad. I hadn't watched it since 2021 when it premiered on Max.

I do not say this lightly, this is a 10/10 movie. I forgot how excellent this film was. Probably the best film the DCEU outputted. Man, if only it didnt come out during Covid, this should have been a hit, such a freaking well done film.

I really don't think it would have.

 

[flickchick85]

I feel like Gunn will definitely recruit him to the DCU if he hasn't already.

 

[Sithborg]

I think he may have to pry him away from Flanigan. I think Flanigan will give him more interesting stuff, as well.

 

[flickchick85]

I think he may have to pry him away from Flanigan. I think Flanigan will give him more interesting stuff, as well.

Flanagan is producing and co-writing Clayface.

 

[MarvelFan]

Always happy to help new fans discover this character! Glad you enjoyed the movie as much as I did.

Next up, you must watch Superman & Lois!

will definitely do...

 

[MarvelFan]

Keep the New Gods out of my Supes stories, pls.

Give the New Gods their own movie/franchise.

And give me Mongul/Warworld for Supes. After Brainiac, of course.

Brainiac for the sequel is definitely a MUST!

I'd love the base story to be loose inspiration from Geoff Johns' Brainiac arc that

Spoiler

also features Supergirl

and the introduction of Kandor.
Though I don't know if I can handle that Pa Kent died in that arc

That all leads into New Krypton saga for (god willing) the 3rd movie, as I'd more lean into New Krypton arc than Warworld arc, though I don't mind for Mongul to be the main villain for 3rd movie.

 

[MarvelFan]

By the way...already seen the dubbed version...I usually watch the dubbed after the original

Here's Superman in Japanese

 

[Drizzle]

I feel like Gunn will definitely recruit him to the DCU if he hasn't already.

I feel like Gunn and Hamill have flirted with working with each other for a while. I want to say he was rumored to be in both GOTG Vol. 3 and the Holiday Special. Now there's a guy I'm utterly shocked hasn't showed up in either the MCU or a DC movie (Joker voicework not included).

 

[Spider-Fan]

Long 8 day wait until next Thursday at 9:10 pm

 

[Chris B]

I feel like Gunn and Hamill have flirted with working with each other for a while. I want to say he was rumored to be in both GOTG Vol. 3 and the Holiday Special. Now there's a guy I'm utterly shocked hasn't showed up in either the MCU or a DC movie (Joker voicework not included).

I'm still disappointed that he didn't show up as Marvel's Santa Claus in that.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Drizzle]

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I really thought that was blood on her hands before putting two and two together with the spray paint.

 

[Ninjablade]

A teaser poster that's good? In this economy!

I dig it.

 

[Business Time]

Whether something is a flop or considered a worthwhile investment is 2 totally different things. There are plenty of movies that have made money, good money, in their theatrical runs that were not considered good investments because they didn't make "enough" money. That didn't make them flops.

And you are wrong.

180-200m budget. Made 411m. Got a sequel.

Hey, late to this party. The board was malfunctioning a few months back, so apologies for the delayed reply.

Pacific Rim 2 was the exception, not the rule. The original overperformed internationally, so it was one of the rare cases where a follow-up would have been good business.

Could Thunderbolts have followed a similar path? Sure. It would have been unlikely, but anythings possible.


Unfortunately it didn't. Captain America Brave New World and Thunderbolts are both Theatrical flops. Came in below the break-even theatrically. The Trades have said this. Even this website (SHH) has branded Thunderbolts as a theatrical flop in the News section.

It's the first time Marvel Studios has had two of these consecutively, and that's great. They need to make some big changes over there after all the poor decisions of recent years, and audiences are voting with their wallets about what content that find appealing and what they do not.

 

[Business Time]

Movies like Marvel films have multiple revenue streams and you have to factor in things like licensing, toy sales, etc. Captain America: The First Avenger only made $370 WW. But it got sequels. With Thunderbolts in particular, you're featuring this team in Doomsday with the hopes that it will boost their popularity. Which worked for all the core Avengers from Phase 1 going into Phase 2 and beyond. Thunderbolts making close to $400 mil is fine.

In regards to Shang-Chi and Eternals, both were pandemic era releases. In the case of Eternals, that movie on top of making what it did, it also got poor reviews and WOM. Shang-Chi had the opposite. Hence why Shang-Chi is going to be featured in Doomsday and get a sequel

Shang-Chi's sequel has been on the backburner for years. It didn't meet their financial targets, so they've just been pushing it off and off.

Relying on Avengers to 'reintroduce' the character perhaps.

China is likely another factor why Shang-Chi isn't a priority. They made that movie to pander to the Chinese market and it was flat-out rejected for whatever reason.

 

[Venom 1988]

Hey, late to this party. The board was malfunctioning a few months back, so apologies for the delayed reply.

Pacific Rim 2 was the exception, not the rule. The original overperformed internationally, so it was one of the rare cases where a follow-up would have been good business.

Could Thunderbolts have followed a similar path? Sure. It would have been unlikely, but anythings possible.


Unfortunately it didn't. Captain America Brave New World and Thunderbolts are both Theatrical flops. Came in below the break-even theatrically. The Trades have said this. Even this website (SHH) has branded Thunderbolts as a theatrical flop in the News section.

It's the first time Marvel Studios has had two of these consecutively, and that's great. They need to make some big changes over there after all the poor decisions of recent years, and audiences are voting with their wallets about what content that find appealing and what they do not.

Dude no one has time to dig up 3 month old debate.

 

[Business Time]

Dude no one has time to dig up 3 month old debate.

Well it's easier to have this discussion now that all the box office receipts are in.

However, yes I'll try to post more frequently for the time being instead of taking three months to reply.

Did you enjoy Superman 2025? I'm hoping it does well enough, there are some concerns about it's international haul.