RIP Comic-Con?

[amazingfantasy15]

I think it's funny that studios are backing out of comic con because the movies they promoted there didn't do well at the box office, but let's look at the four movies they highlighted;

Tron Legacy - This was a pure geek movie, that was never going to go over well with the mainstream. It was pretty effects, that's it.

Megamind - Looked like a stupid animated movie and came out in a summer with two much better animated movies Toy Story 3 and Despicable Me (which had somewhat the same premise, done much better).

Sucker Punch - Like Tron, this was all pretty effects, no story. Studios keep thinking if Zack Synder is the director it will do 300 numbers, but it just isn't going to happen. Sucker Punch looked like a rental for me from the start.

Scott Pilgirm - This wasn't going to cross over to the mainstream, everyone's getting tired of Michael Cera's love letters to hipsters.

Give people good movies and they'll flock to them. If you're movies aren't good from the start don't be suprised when the box office shows it.

 

[roach]

I dont see an issue with non-comic properties being at comic-con....should Harry Potter, BSG, Star Wars or Star Trek not be allowed because the dont have or didnt start as a comic????
The one comic con I went to had a Q&A with Tarantino and the cast of Kill Bill/The Cast of Lord of the Rings and Angelina Jolie promoting Tomb Raider. Should they not have been there because there was no comic???

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

As opposed to 35 year old men camping out in Hall H waiting to see *insert latest actor to play a superhero*.

Exactly. But because Twilight is for girls (EWWWWWW), it's somehow different from people who stand in line for hours to see Avengers footage or dress up like Batman.

 

[roach]

I think it's funny that studios are backing out of comic con because the movies they promoted there didn't do well at the box office, but let's look at the four movies they highlighted;

Tron Legacy - This was a pure geek movie, that was never going to go over well with the mainstream. It was pretty effects, that's it.

Megamind - Looked like a stupid animated movie and came out in a summer with two much better animated movies Toy Story 3 and Despicable Me (which had somewhat the same premise, done much better).

Sucker Punch - Like Tron, this was all pretty effects, no story. Studios keep thinking if Zack Synder is the director it will do 300 numbers, but it just isn't going to happen. Sucker Punch looked like a rental for me from the start.

Scott Pilgirm - This wasn't going to cross over to the mainstream, everyone's getting tired of Michael Cera's love letters to hipsters.

Give people good movies and they'll flock to them. If you're movies aren't good from the start don't be suprised when the box office shows it.

yeah but also lets look at how early reports from Comic-Con were that X-men FC and GL were gonna be crap...GL remains to be seen but FC was anything but

 

[roach]

Exactly. But because Twilight is for girls (EWWWWWW), it's somehow different from people who stand in line for hours to see Avengers footage or dress up like Batman.

as Kevin Smith said: 13 year old girls obsessed with Twilight grow up to be hot women....and girls who go to Comic-Con will be exposed to comics...maybe even read some...which mean new readers...a win/win for the genre

 

[Kane52630]

Tron Legacy - This was a pure geek movie, that was never going to go over well with the mainstream. It was pretty effects, that's it.

Disagree entirely.

 

[Avengers-Report]

So does this mean there won't be any TDKR or Avenger panels?

 

[Quasimod0]

Tron legacy was fairly successful.. why does everyone talk like it bombed?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Also Scott Pilgrim was based on a graphic novel. It had every right to be at Comic Con. It's also kind of living on as a cult thing growing to become something akin to Rocky Horror Picture Show with midnight showings, etc.

 

[Kane52630]

Tron legacy was fairly successful.. why does everyone talk like it bombed?

People like to think to extremes, that since it made a modest amount of money and received modest reviews from audiences and critics, it bombed. Ridiculous.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

as Kevin Smith said: 13 year old girls obsessed with Twilight grow up to be hot women....and girls who go to Comic-Con will be exposed to comics...maybe even read some...which mean new readers...a win/win for the genre

If fanboys were smart, then they'd pretend they loved Twilight in front of girls. Alas.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Last year, Rod Blagojevich was at the Chicago Con signing autographs. Maybe such a travesty wont happen again.

 

[twylight]

If fanboys were smart, then they'd pretend they loved Twilight in front of girls. Alas.

Sometimes you just have to hit them over the head and drag them to the comic section.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yeah, you're overreacting about this Aesop.

 

[SuperFerret]

Exactly. But because Twilight is for girls (EWWWWWW), it's somehow different from people who stand in line for hours to see Avengers footage or dress up like Batman.

It's not, but there's a time and a place for everything.

And if you disagree, I think you and I need to go to the Batforums and start a thread about abortions in Nazi Germany.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

yeah but also lets look at how early reports from Comic-Con were that X-men FC and GL were gonna be crap...GL remains to be seen but FC was anything but

Well with First Class it looked like another rush job from Fox to keep the rights to the X-Men property, much like X-Men 3 and Wolverine were in fact just that.

We do have to wait and see on Green Lantern still, I think they've got the story right. However, with such a special effects heavy movie, those have to be top notch and while the recent media blitz is showing that the effects have gotten better, the first time they were seen, it was very video game looking.

 

[roach]

my biggest issue with the comic-fandom in general is this whole Members Only Club type mentality...being a true fan and what not. We dont treat new fans well.
Lets be honest we are discriminating against the Twilight fans...sure I hate the property as much as the next guy but seriously no one was complaining about non comic properties being at Comic-con until the Twilight-ers showed up.

 

[twylight]

my biggest issue with the comic-fandom in general is this whole Members Only Club type mentality...being a true fan and what not. We dont treat new fans well.
Lets be honest we are discriminating against the Twilight fans...sure I hate the property as much as the next guy but seriously no one was complaining about non comic properties being at Comic-con until the Twilight-ers showed up.

This.

It's hard to be objective, because I can't judge. I'd be horribly depressed if there wasn't a Chuck or Fringe panel at SDCC. But if Twilight goes, then why shouldn't those too?

I think the hate for the Twilight fans is that they're attending just for Twilight stuff. My friend who went to the Glee panel attended predominantly all the DC Comic panels (and dressed as a Green Lantern, I mean really ). I go to mostly movie and TV show panels but I do attend comic and comic art panels I can fit in. How many of the Twilight fans went to comic panels? Twilight is it's own fandom that is perceived by most attendees at SDCC to not dovetail with any other fandoms represented there (comics predominantly). It doesn't appear to crossover as much as the other ones do.

Also most of the Twilight hates comes from 2009 when the schedule for Hall H was really -not- thought out. The Twilight fans pretty much clogged the line for others to get in (I really wanted into that Tron: Legacy panel!!) They should have done Twilight first thing.

 

[SuperHeroHype]

Fright Night will be there, which already shows flaws in this article (it's a DreamWorks/Disney film).

 

[Motown Marvel]

im totally cool with this news. i much prefer comic-con to pop-culture-promotion-con.

 

[SuperFerret]

I think ComicCon should be comics and comic-related stuff only. It has nothing to do with being a "true fan" or whatever. That stuff is a BS anyway.

ComicCon should be comics. Not Twilight, not Harry Potter, not Fringe or Chuck or Avatar or whatever. Those things have their own Cons. There are Comic Conventions, Anime Conventions, Horror Conventions, Sci Fi Conventions, etc. etc. etc. All I ask is that things be organized as such.

 

[Duke]

I think ComicCon should be comics and comic-related stuff only. It has nothing to do with being a "true fan" or whatever. That stuff is a BS anyway.

ComicCon should be comics. Not Twilight, not Harry Potter, not Fringe or Chuck or Avatar or whatever. Those things have their own Cons. There are Comic Conventions, Anime Conventions, Horror Conventions, Sci Fi Conventions, etc. etc. etc. All I ask is that things be organized as such.

For once, you & I agree on something. Comic-Con should be about comics & comic related movies, etc. period.

 

[Prison Mike]

I love SDCC the way it is right now. Aren't there comic conventions that are just comics already?

 

[SonOfCthulhu]

The lesson learned by the film folks should be worry more about making a better product and worry less about promoting it at comic-con.

 

[Gold Samurai]

I think it's funny that studios are backing out of comic con because the movies they promoted there didn't do well at the box office.

They put money into promoting the movie at comic con but don't get back what they promoted.

People spread word at comic con that the movie will likely suck.