Robin Hood

They should have picked up a real actress for Maid Marion, or actually any character in the series. Most of the casting is a mess.
 
It was alright, but not great. The little things that annoyed me overshadowed the good things.
One thing that really annoyed me was marion being turned into a stereotypical 'kick ass' woman. It used to be that women were always the damsels in distress, but IMO its gone too far the other way! I mean, Im a woman- and all these strong independant women are annoying me!

A positive point; some of the hats were very funny.

The guy playing the sherrif of nottingham was good, but for me Alan Rickman will always own that part :woot:

My final nit pick (because that's what Im doing, it was a very well made episode) is the similarities between this, and the Kevin Costner film. I mean, it's all well and good if they're both sticking to the same interpretation of the legend, but it just felt like a remake of the film. Other than that, it was good, and had some very funny moments.
 
Well, Costner was a cowardly Robin, at least they are trying to make this kiddo heroic, but that does not mean they have succeeded. He comes up just as unconvincing as the Robin of POT.

As for the Maid marian turned into a power chick, they replaced an old cliche with a newer one. And Olivia de Havilland's Marian managed to be intelligent and capable while bgeing (sometimes) a very believable damsel in distress.
 
Everyman said:
Well, Costner was a cowardly Robin, at least they are trying to make this kiddo heroic, but that does not mean they have succeeded. He comes up just as unconvincing as the Robin of POT.

Yes, to me Robin did not seem like a lovable rogue, or dashing hero. He just seemed like any old 'bloke' you might meet into at the town center, albeit with a few extra sword and bow tricks.
 
Robin could have done with a bit more of a Yorkshire accent. He is from yorkshire anyway they could have got Sean bean to play him he is way cooler than that kid who played him. If anyone has seen Sharp that is the way a true British hero should be.
 
darkdaz said:
Robin could have done with a bit more of a Yorkshire accent. He is from yorkshire anyway they could have got Sean bean to play him he is way cooler than that kid who played him. If anyone has seen Sharp that is the way a true British hero should be.

Hmmmmmm....Sean Bean as Robin, now that would have been something. I think the Yorkshire accent was the least of Armstrong's problem. His acting and screen presence, however, need drastic improvements. Even when his lines are actually good (which is quite rare) he delivers them poorly. He said i an interview that his Robin and Merry Men were tough guys. Well, I was glad he told us, because there was nothing tough about them so far. If it goes on like this, BBC will covered itseld in ridicule.
 
Everyman said:
He said i an interview that his Robin and Merry Men were tough guys. Well, I was glad he told us, because there was nothing tough about them so far. If it goes on like this, BBC will covered itseld in ridicule.
But he's not really 'Robin Hood' yet. For the episode, he was a land owner. He hasn't become Robin Hood yet. We'll probably develop some tougher attitudes over the next few episodes.
 
Just watched the first ep this morning.

I quite enjoyed it really. There are still some things that need to ne ironed out, but there were some good moments as well. The fight Robin had with the father was pretty awful. But at the end, it built Robin up to be a heroic figure, which was nicely done.
 
Avalanche said:
But he's not really 'Robin Hood' yet. For the episode, he was a land owner. He hasn't become Robin Hood yet. We'll probably develop some tougher attitudes over the next few episodes.

I don't buy this. He is form the very first episode a war veteran, and a Crusader at that. He doesn't even look like he's been in a fistfight with his teddy bear. He should look like a warrior and be heroic. He doesn't look like a warrior and he fails to be heroic. And he does not look aristocratic at all, neither with his clothes nor with his attitude. An attitude which is, like every other, utterly anachronistic, by the way.
 
regwec said:
How would you describe an "aristocratic look"?

It is difficult to put into words, but it is something different than a 25 yo kid who cannot get a good posture and acts like a XXith century teenager. I have seen semi-professionnal actors in stage plays in Montreal that were more convincing as nobles as this Armstrong guy. He was way too contemporary in his appearance and manners and was utterly unconvincing as a war veteran and a nobleman.
 
It was okay. I could've done without the ridiculous slow motion/negative/crash zoom nonsense, though. I think the cast will grow on, as I was hating the traditional funny man side kick, but then he broke down in tears whilst alone in the bath, which was quite cool.

If they stop trying to be so damn 'stylish' and instead focus upon the characters, it could be really great.
 
Fried Gold said:
It was okay. I could've done without the ridiculous slow motion/negative/crash zoom nonsense, though. I think the cast will grow on, as I was hating the traditional funny man side kick, but then he broke down in tears whilst alone in the bath, which was quite cool.

If they stop trying to be so damn 'stylish' and instead focus upon the characters, it could be really great.

About the sidekick, him breaking in tears could have been credible had he not been such a buffoon a few seconds before, and had he actually looked like someone who have been to war.

They need to change much, much more if they want this pseudo-RH (RHINO?) to be good. Not great, just good. They need to get rid of the cheesy camera effects and cartoonish fights, they need to have a more authentic medieval feel (therefore have different costumes, different sets,better dialogues, more violent scenes, etc), they need to teach their lead actor to act, they need to develop their characters as real human beings and not caricatures, etc. Oh, and they need Robin Hood to grow a beard. A real one, that is. It worked for Star Trek The Next Generation and DS9. That would make Robin Hood look more mature and hide his baby face.
 
Mrs Richards said:
The guy playing the sherrif of nottingham was good, but for me Alan Rickman will always own that part.
Tony Robinson was the best Sherrif.
 
Fried Gold said:
Tony Robinson was the best Sherrif.

As the sheriff, I like Alan Weathley better, but nobody beats Basil Rathbone's Guy of Guisbourne. And Melville Cooper was probably the best "comedic" sheriff.
 
Fried Gold said:
Tony Robinson was the best Sherrif.


Damn straight, I'd rather have a new series of Maid Marrion than this. Anyone remember the episode of Maid Marrion and her Merry Men were Robin was bald and ripped off the Crystal Maze?

BTW, Mrs Richards I am LOVING your avvy.
 
Everyman said:
more violent scenes, etc
You have to remember what time this is going out to the public. At 7pm, it needs to be relative child-friendly.
 
do you know what I hated most about the whole episode, the really crappy use of the slow motion/double take flip he does after fighting the father of the woman he kisses...I mean what was the point?? it was like power rangers
 
Yes, that effect was terrible wherever it was used.
 
Avalanche said:
You have to remember what time this is going out to the public. At 7pm, it needs to be relative child-friendly.

Richard Green's Robin Hood killed people sometimes, and so did Errol Flynn's version of the character. And they were done decades ago, and correct me if I am wrong, but both were supposed to be kids friendly (the series with Richard Green especially). I don't see why modern Robin Hood has to use his bow to anything but killing the sheriff's guards, and why the only person killed was by Marian. With a piece of jewellery, no less! it can be kids friendly and still have fights that are believable. The fights in the first episode belong to a Bugs Bunny cartoon and they were terribly amateurish.
 
trentoid said:
do you know what I hated most about the whole episode, the really crappy use of the slow motion/double take flip he does after fighting the father of the woman he kisses...I mean what was the point?? it was like power rangers

...And this sequence brings absolutely nothing to the plot. it is just a comic moment that fails to be funny and where Robin looks absolutely unheroic.
 
Avalanche said:
How long do you guys wait for Doctor Who over in the US? It will probably be around the same time frame for Robin Hood. :up:

I'm probably going to miss some of tonight's episode. It clashes in part with X-Factor I think. Still, it will be on the net before long.


No wait for Dr Who in Canada....It's imported by the CBC...I dunno about this Robin Hood though.
 
darkdaz said:
Robin could have done with a bit more of a Yorkshire accent. He is from yorkshire anyway they could have got Sean bean to play him he is way cooler than that kid who played him. If anyone has seen Sharp that is the way a true British hero should be.

Yes that would have been a great casting call, at least someone with a decent Yorkshire accent.
 
A.J.Rimmer(BSC) said:
Damn straight, I'd rather have a new series of Maid Marrion than this. Anyone remember the episode of Maid Marrion and her Merry Men were Robin was bald and ripped off the Crystal Maze?

BTW, Mrs Richards I am LOVING your avvy.


hehe, thanks, you're sig is ace (I'll smoke him a smegging kipper)

Oh, and also, was I the only person who, when watching Robin Hood, kept expecting people from Monty Python to jump out shouting 'bring out your dead!' and 'burn the witch!'
 
The Englishman said:
Yes that would have been a great casting call, at least someone with a decent Yorkshire accent.

Or decent acting skills...
 

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