Daredevil Rosario Dawson Joins the Cast as Night Nurse

[bluerayer]

The way Marvel has said they've handled the movies is make the best story possible without deliberately saving something for later but also without squeezing something in for fear of lack of future opportunity. I have a whole thread about whether you can justify not using something because who knows if there will be a season 2 (we're talking 60 episodes later, which would be season 4 by conventional standards).

But I go back to what Frank Miller said when asked why he didn't use more Daredevil villains (OK, one of the things he said was that Daredevil has a poor rogue's gallery, leaving that aside). He said that there was so much story potential with Kingpin, Elektra, and Bullseye that he didn't need to use anyone else. That tends to be my view. Pick a few characters that make for a good story and go with that. I hope to see Elektra's story, but I know there are a lot of other good stories they could go with as well.

And I really do hope for Melvin Potter. He's a good early villain while Daredevil is still getting his feet under him and, more importantly, he's an opportunity for Matt Murdock the lawyer. He shows that Daredevil isn't about defeating the badguys, he's about helping the people of Hell's Kitchen. That includes those we might think of bad guys but are really in need of help instead.

With the right actor and some good writing(for the show i mean obviously Frank Miller wrote some good stories, that's not what i meant), Melvin Potter/Gladiator could really stand out in the show and be really memorable.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, that's my thought. To me, Gladiator stands out as having the qualities that make Daredevil unique from other superheroes. As Frank Miller wrote him (but even some of the qualities before), he could not exist in any other comic book.

 

[the gael]

I don't think that she's Elektra. Of course Elektra is a given, but the background of her character doesn't sound like Elektra at all (She's the daughter of a rich greek ambassador who falled in love with a pre DD Matt, not someone that he met because she was trying to save Hell's Kitchen. Plus they were in college and not in Hell's Kitchen. Elektra never had anything to do with Hell's kitchen at all until she tracked down a criminal who was here and was, for the occasion, reunited with Matt), and I doubt that Marvel would change the Elektra character to fit Rosario Dawson, they are not Josh Trank.

But her being Echo, Milla Donovan, Kirsten McDuffie or Angela Del Toro (Never thought of that before seeing it here, but Rosario Dawson would be a perfect White Tiger) would work.

As for Melvin Potter, he's such a great and sympathetic (and tragic) character. I would love to see him on screen, both as a dangerous lunatic, and later as a reformed villain and now friend of Matt (I love his scenes in Born Again)

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't think that she's Elektra. Of course Elektra is a given, but the background of her character doesn't sound like Elektra at all (She's the daughter of a rich greek ambassador who falled in love with a pre DD Matt, not someone that he met because she was trying to save Hell's Kitchen. Plus they were in college and not in Hell's Kitchen. Elektra never had anything to do with Hell's kitchen at all until she tracked down a criminal who was here and was, for the occasion, reunited with Matt), and I doubt that Marvel would change the Elektra character to fit Rosario Dawson, they are not Josh Trank.

But her being Echo, Milla Donovan, Kirsten McDuffie or Angela Del Toro (Never thought of that before seeing it here, but Rosario Dawson would be a perfect White Tiger) would work.

As for Melvin Potter, he's such a great and sympathetic (and tragic) character. I would love to see him on screen, both as a dangerous lunatic, and later as a reformed villain and now friend of Matt (I love his scenes in Born Again)

I'd rule out "mundane" (i.e., non ass-kicking) roles like Milla Donovan, Kirsten McDuffie, or Karen Page. I mean, c'mon --- it's Rosario. You don't hire her to be a stay-at-home girlfriend/corpse in the fridge, you hire her to bust some chops. I'd say it almost has to be a superheroine/action heroine, so Echo, White Tiger, Elektra, or Misty Knight are almost certainly the short list. Ethnicity-wise, Echo or White Tiger make the most sense; description-wise (someone trying to clean up Hell's Kitchen), White Tiger or Misty Knight make the most sense. Since Del Toro fits both counts, I'm still going with her as the most likely. Unless they're going to rewrite the backstory of Elektra to be a crusading vigilante instead of La Femme Nikita (With Sais).

 

[Dr. Evil]

Plus would Marvel keep her role a secret for Milla Donovan, Kirsten McDuffie or Karen Page? I doubt that. Marvel would have said right away who she was if it was one of those three.

Rosario Dawson is a fairly well known name, although her career has been stagnant at this point. Plus Steven DeKnight has tweeted a few things about Daredevil since Friday (when Rosario was announced) but none about Rosario. And Rosario has been very absent on Twitter since she appeared on Fallon last Wednesday other than retweeting a quote on the very same day she was announced to appear on the series. If it had been McDuffie, Donovan or Page, wouldn't Rosario and DeKnight have said something about it by now? Rosario would have tweeted out how excited she was to be a part of the same universe as the Avengers (or something like that) and/or even retweeted Marvel's press release about her casting.

Remember when D'Onofrio was announced as Kingpin, DeKnight mentioned it on Twitter within a few hours. Same with Charlie Cox (in fact within an hour of Marvel announcing Cox, he mentioned it on Twitter). But he has not mentioned the casting of Rosario at all.

The only mention of Dawson in Daredevil comes from Marvel's press release and from Jeph Loeb.

I think we'll know who she's playing by the time she starts fully promoting "Sin City: A Dame to Kill For" which comes out on August 22nd because the show will be in the middle of shooting by then.

 

[bluerayer]

What if it's for a new character created for the show? Would anyone have a problem with that? I wouldnt, as long as its a well written role.

 

[rogue trooper]

Anyone from Sin City is surely welcomed in the celluloid-world of Daredevil.

 

[Dr. Evil]

What if it's for a new character created for the show? Would anyone have a problem with that? I wouldnt, as long as its a well written role.

That cannot be ruled out since it happens all of the time in the MCU.

 

[cherokeesam]

What if it's for a new character created for the show? Would anyone have a problem with that? I wouldnt, as long as its a well written role.

Original characters can be great and all, but it seems unlikely. Other than Coulson and his intrepid TV agents, pretty much everyone (hero or villain, or support) in the MCU has a comic-book counterpart. They're using D'Onofrio to play an iconic Marvel villain; it's safe to say Rosario's role will be from the comics as well.

 

[Majik1387]

If she's not playing a new character or a racebent one, the only person I can think of with her ethnic mix is Echo.

...Who is a love interest of Matt's AND a kickass vigilante.

Echo is a pretty good
suggestion

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she's Echo.

Can you say Misty Knight? You can't? Learn to.

I think it's a high possibility.

She doesn't look not Greek.

Rosario doesnt look Greek at all. That's not to say there isn't a possibility of her being Elektra, but she doesn't look Greek.

What if it's for a new character created for the show? Would anyone have a problem with that? I wouldnt, as long as its a well written role.

Yes, I'd have a problem. With how many characters the Marvel universe has and owns, I cannot understand why they bother with original characters. It's pointless and stupid. I understand writers want to put their stamp on shows/movies they work on, but I feel like there's better ways than to create original characters for what's already a well-populated universe that already has characters that would already fit perfectly in original characters' places.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Original characters can be great and all, but it seems unlikely. Other than Coulson and his intrepid TV agents, pretty much everyone (hero or villain, or support) in the MCU has a comic-book counterpart. They're using D'Onofrio to play an iconic Marvel villain; it's safe to say Rosario's role will be from the comics as well.

I could go either way on whether Agent Tripplett is classified as one of his agents (he was originally a recurring guest star with little indication that he would be permanent). But there's also Ian Quinn, Raina, and Poe. Agent Blake as well, if I'm not mistaken. I think there's at least enough of an indication that they aren't afraid of original characters.

In the movies, there's Senator Stern, Erik Selvig and Darcy. Granted, I don't think there are any major original characters in Captain America or Avengers, though.

 

[DarKush]

I wouldn't mind seeing Dawson as Elektra. She's a high profile actress, or at least when it comes to a Netflix or TV series, so she should get a high profile character. Absent that, I wouldn't mind seeing her as Echo or White Tiger. I would prefer she get a superhero as opposed to being a generic love interest.
I wouldn't mind Typhoid Mary either.

 

[Loki882]

They might have to make some modifications to Typhoid Mary's outfit. It might be a little too, what's the right word, "hookerish" for Marvel (and certainly Disney's) tastes.

 

[cherokeesam]

They might have to make some modifications to Typhoid Mary's outfit. It might be a little too, what's the right word, "hookerish" for Marvel (and certainly Disney's) tastes.

This is Netflix, not network TV. Netflix prides themselves on not having to worry about censorship. Plus, DD & the other shows are pretty much Marvel Knights/MAX. There's a damn good chance that the plan here is for an adult, R-rated audience.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think chances are it'll be tv 14. I don't think marvel will completely pass up the chance for merchandise like toys and stuff to be sold. But it'll definitely be gritty and dark.

 

[bluerayer]

Im just saying, lets not rule out the possibility of it being an original character. I think if it was for Elektra or someone else from the Daredevil universe, they would have announced who she was playing. Like they did with Vincent D'Onofrio and Charlie Cox. Jada Pinkett Smith plays Fish Mooney in the upcoming Gotham show, that is a new character. Maybe Marvel is doing something similar?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Maybe they just want us to speculate for a while. At least until comic con. Lol

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Zero chance it will be R-rated. No F bombs, no nudity, no excessive gore. Slightly harder than TWS maybe, but thats the limit. Marvel wants 10 year olds (and older) watching this after all.

 

[bluerayer]

Maybe they just want us to speculate for a while. At least until comic con. Lol

Yeah, thats probably true.

 

[bluerayer]

Zero chance it will be R-rated. No F bombs, no nudity, no excessive gore. Slightly harder than TWS maybe, but thats the limit. Marvel wants 10 year olds (and older) watching this after all.

Im expecting something along the lines of Law and Order:SVU, which i follow and it is rated tv 14.(some episodes are tv PG). It has mature stories for adults and avoids F bombs, nudity and has minimal gore.

 

[cherokeesam]

Zero chance it will be R-rated. No F bombs, no nudity, no excessive gore. Slightly harder than TWS maybe, but thats the limit. Marvel wants 10 year olds (and older) watching this after all.

Im expecting something along the lines of Law and Order:SVU, which i follow and it is rated tv 14.(some episodes are tv PG). It has mature stories for adults and avoids F bombs, nudity and has minimal gore.

I don't think you guys understand (a) Netflix original programming, and (b) Marvel Knights. Netflix shows are custom-built *specifically* to avoid censorship, and to allow HBO-style adult fare and language; and the Marvel Knights (especially the MAX imprint) was designed to make these very characters (DD, Cage, Fist, JJ) to allow very adult fare and language.

That's the reason Marvel Studios chose *these* characters for *this* format. This is not for the kiddies; the family-friendly Marvel characters are reserved for feature films and network TV.

 

[bluerayer]

I don't think you guys understand (a) Netflix original programming, and (b) Marvel Knights. Netflix shows are custom-built *specifically* to avoid censorship, and to allow HBO-style adult fare and language; and the Marvel Knights (especially the MAX imprint) was designed to make these very characters (DD, Cage, Fist, JJ) to allow very adult fare and language.

That's the reason Marvel Studios chose *these* characters for *this* format. This is not for the kiddies; the family-friendly Marvel characters are reserved for feature films and network TV.

Oh, i understand that Netflix can get away with things. Im just talking about what i expect that the show will be like, given the source material(which doesnt really have much bad language and or nudity). L&O:SVU isnt for kiddies either. Its a very adult show despite its family friendly rating. Bad language and nudity doesnt make a show adult, that has to do with the tone of the show.

Dont get me wrong, i have no problems with swearing and or nudity, im just saying that an adult show can be made without F bombs and gratuitous nudity.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Law and Order SVU is not a bad tone for the Netflix shows. I will be more than pleased if the Netflix shows are similar in tone to SVU.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I don't think the swearing will go beyond the films (lots of S-words, one use of the F-word). But I do expect much heavier violence and a darker tone. I could see subjects like rape, child prostitution, etc. popping up (as they do in the comics for these characters).

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Hey I would love a straight up adaptation of a MAX series like Alias or Ennis' Punisher. I just don't think its in the cards, regardless of venue. Not if they're gonna be part of the MCU.

I do think that eventually we will see shows and films that are separate from the mainstream universe a la MK or MAX but not for a few years. At least I hope.