Saudi gang-rape victim gets 90 lashes for International Women's Day

[3 Dev Adam]

AFTERWARDS, SHE TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE

March 8, marked International Women's Day. The mainstream media, including the New York Times and the BBC, have – true to form - completely ignored the news that "A Saudi woman who was kidnapped at knifepoint, gang-raped and then beaten by her brother has been sentenced to 90 lashes – for meeting a man who was not a relative."

The sentencing earlier this week has been reported by AFP and in Arab media, including the Khaleej Times (published in the United Arab Emirates) and the Saudi Gazette. But as far as I can tell the only Western mainstream media outlets to have covered the story are Fox News and the Scotsman (a Scottish newspaper). This is despite the fact that most Western media subscribe to AFP.

The 19-year-old Saudi woman was abducted by a gang of men wielding kitchen knives who took her to a farm where she was raped 14 times by her captors. Five men were arrested for the rape and given jail terms ranging from 10 months to five years by a panel of judges in the eastern Saudi city of Qatif, near the teenager's hometown.

But the judges also decided to sentence the young woman, identified only as "G," to 90 lashes. "G" was told by one of the judges that she was lucky not to have been given jail time. She said yesterday that she would appeal against her sentence.

The woman told the Saudi Gazette that she tried to commit suicide because of her ordeal and was beaten by her younger brother because the rape had brought shame on their family.

Unrelated men and women are forbidden from interacting in public in Saudi Arabia, which strictly enforces Islamic Sharia law of a kind many European Muslims say they would like to introduce in countries like Britain and France.

* On the official International Women's Day website, there is nothing about Saudi Arabia, just publicity for the 'Lighting candles for Women in Palestinian society" event.

* For more on Saudi Arabia see these dispatches, in which two of the notes were on a six-year-old girl burned to death in an "honor" killing in Birmingham, England, and a horrific 12-day gang rape of a mother and daughter in Pakistan as punishment for the daughter wanting to go to college.

 

[kane9321]

okay?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

beaten by her younger brother because the rape had brought shame on their family.

Those dudes are so f***ed up.
And giving a woman 90 lashes after she was raped 14 times?
This is where "tolerance" and "cultural diversity" is bull****.
Sorry, that's not just "a different culture we need to respect".
It's evil and they are monsters.


For instance, the governmental Saudi Arabian Morality Police, who patrol the streets making sure you don't give anyone a Valentine's Day card....the news story I always bring up, about the textile place that caught fire, and mostly only women worked there, so the women were fleeing the building, and the god damned Islamic Morality Police stood there by the door, and if a woman came out and wasn't sufficiently covered up, they'd beat her back into the building.
That phenomenally, unspeakably inhuman, sadistic and f***ed up beyond belief.

 

[USMC]

U Go Girl!

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I'm sure most of the cats from the "hills have eyes 2" at Misc. Films would rather you call it "Saudi gang-Love"

 

[3 Dev Adam]

*I* call it savagery

 

[Jspider13]

Proud to be an American.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Those dudes are so f***ed up.
And giving a woman 90 lashes after she was raped 14 times?
This is where "tolerance" and "cultural diversity" is bull****.
Sorry, that's not just "a different culture we need to respect".
It's evil and they are monsters.

uh.
duh.

I don't think even the staunches "tolerance" booster would tell you to "tolerate" rape or violence against anyone.

 

[jaguarr]

Those dudes are so f***ed up.
And giving a woman 90 lashes after she was raped 14 times?
This is where "tolerance" and "cultural diversity" is bull****.
Sorry, that's not just "a different culture we need to respect".
It's evil and they are monsters.

I agree, there are certain aspects of some cultures that perpetuate a HORRIBLE divisiveness between the genders that results in a lot of women being hurt and/or killed. Why the hell wasn't her brother out looking for the guys who kidnapped and raped his sister? THEY are the ones that defiled his family's honor and he only perpetuated it by letting them get away with it. And now they punish the woman because it was all somehow her fault? Great logic, you morons.

jag

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Its good to be a man.

 

[gap5ewl]

I'm more suprised that fox news was one of the only stations to report it!

 

[Super_Child]

I wish I had the power to rip these men apart, tearing their insides out.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Why the hell wasn't her brother out looking for the guys who kidnapped and raped his sister? THEY are the ones that defiled his family's honor and he only perpetuated it by letting them get away with it.

YES!

And these situations where the daughter doesn't comply with an arranged marriage, or chooses to move to England and turn her back on her family's religion, so the father and/or sons go all the way to England to hunt her down and pour acid on her face, or the Dad sets his daughter on fire.

I think some people think of these as freakish, isolated cases...or even urban legends, but I've seen several horrifying documentaries about it and it's way too common and frequent.
I do not get it at all.

 

[gap5ewl]

Unrelated men and women are forbidden from interacting in public in Saudi Arabia, which strictly enforces Islamic Sharia law of a kind many European Muslims say they would like to introduce in countries like Britain and France.

Well..good luck with that

 

[vibeke_T]

Its good to be a man.

ok that is the king of dumb comments

 

[vibeke_T]

Its good to be a man.

ok that is the king of dumb comments

 

[CyberFaust]

...in a row?



sucks for her though, doesn't do me any good either
...people are wierd

 

[Fried Gold]

I agree, there are certain aspects of some cultures that perpetuate a HORRIBLE divisiveness between the genders that results in a lot of women being hurt and/or killed. Why the hell wasn't her brother out looking for the guys who kidnapped and raped his sister? THEY are the ones that defiled his family's honor and he only perpetuated it by letting them get away with it. And now they punish the woman because it was all somehow her fault? Great logic, you morons.

jag

According to you and your values. Assuming that she was punished according to the letter of the law as governed by that particular society, you can't apply Jag from the West logic to an Arab from Saudi Arabia issue.

Whilst this seems a bit shocking, I'm sure it's a slightly hyped article designed to keep the balance of West/East relations at an all-time low.

 

[chamber-music]

wow someone needs to tell the saudis that the middle ages ended a long time ago.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

According to you and your values. Assuming that she was punished according to the letter of the law as governed by that particular society, you can't apply Jag from the West logic to an Arab from Saudi Arabia issue.

Whilst this seems a bit shocking, I'm sure it's a slightly hyped article designed to keep the balance of West/East relations at an all-time low.

SOOooo...when the media was full of the Andrea Yates story, was that just hyped to keep....relations between white, suburban housewives and...other white, suburban houswives at an all-time low?



I guess you missed the whole point of this, that the story ISN'T being hyped or getting enough coverage.

And if you're going to defend the idea of whipping a girl 90 times 'cause she talked to someone AFTER she was just raped 14 times in a row, and after her own brother BEAT her up because SHE got raped...on the grounds that we just can't judge such behaviour with our "western" minds, then you disgust me.

Are you aware that Nazi Germany had a different culture than ours as well?
Who were we to try and impose our American sense of morality on the Nazis?
In their view, the Jews did need to be decimated and forced slave labor, torture in the name of science and rape were at least a way to make their worthless existence on Earth somewhat worthwhile.

How dare we decry the "holocaust"? We need to accept that our cultural perspectives on morality are not superior to others, just different.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Some of the people in that region are just backwards... its gonna take a long process to turn it around... they just need to get some education... I am very open minded with this stuff and I respect their religion but this is one of many similar cases... I really don't know what the solution is... the young minds in those countries need to study here in the West and then take over as the leaders in government positions... it shouldn't be religious clerics...

 

[TheReverend]

all muslims need to die, plain and simple.

 

[Fried Gold]

SOOooo...when the media was full of the Andrea Yates story, was that just hyped to keep....relations between white, suburban housewives and...other white, suburban houswives at an all-time low?



I guess you missed the whole point of this, that the story ISN'T being hyped or getting enough coverage.

And if you're going to defend the idea of whipping a girl 90 times 'cause she talked to someone AFTER she was just raped 14 times in a row, and after her own brother BEAT her up because SHE got raped...on the grounds that we just can't judge such behaviour with our "western" minds, then you disgust me.

Are you aware that Nazi Germany had a different culture than ours as well?
Who were we to try and impose our American sense of morality on the Nazis?
In their view, the Jews did need to be decimated and forced slave labor, torture in the name of science and rape were at least a way to make their worthless existence on Earth somewhat worthwhile.

How dare we decry the "holocaust"? We need to accept that our cultural perspectives on morality are not superior to others, just different.

A. I said that the story was 'shocking'.

B. Stop being so hysterical.

And C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

 

[nosebleed.]

all muslims need to die, plain and simple.

wow...I guess the smiley at the end means its a happy comment.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

While I appreciate the part about the law not suggesting that the Nazi comparison is necessarily inappropriate...to this

Godwin has argued,[2] that overuse of the Nazi/Hitler comparison should be avoided, as it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

I say, bull****.

The REASON it's so often used is that it is the greatest example of human attrocity in the modern age, and an example that almost no one except a small percentage of fringe cults and mentally ill people dispute.

And this support,...for my belief that the idea that there is no such thing as a superior culture, that inhumanity, sadism and backwards thinking should be, as a rule, accepted, even celbrated, is dangerous and despicable and effing ******ed,...is valid.

So, I dislike the "law" at least as far as the wiki-definition, because the jeapordizing of "impact" can be seen as the fault of the person using the Nazi example, and, 100% equally, the fault of the moron who just sees the word "NAZI" and automatically dismisses what he's reading without bothering to see through to the over-riding point.

Here, the point being, that ( and I know this a controversial idea and that it may bespeak an egregious bigotry on my part ), it's wrong to brutalize, beat and whip women because 14 guys raped them.

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