Scientology invades NASCAR

[jaguarr]

Their car is going to crash in their first race,I'll bet.

I wonder if the car will have a bumper sticker that says "Xenu is my copilot.".

jag

 

[Malice]

I wonder if they know Scientology was actually L Ron Hubbards win to a bet. Someone bet him that he could not write a "religion"

Hubbard won.

 

[jaguarr]

I wonder if they know Scientology was actually L Ron Hubbards win to a bet. Someone bet him that he could not write a "religion"

Hubbard won.

I believe Hubbard is on record as saying something akin to "The fastest way to get rich is to create your own religion" or some similar thing. I think the Scientologists are fully aware that they are nothing more than a multi-level marketing scheme hiding behind a moniker of religion. They are all about the Benjamins and that's even evident in their belief that you can actually buy your way to the next life. Silly.

jag

 

[Sabretooth]

I heard Hubbard and a few college friends were making up the religion while they were drunk. If that's true,the irony alone is just....

 

[Malice]

yeah its quite funny....

 

[bored]

Scientology revs up to join NASCAR circuit

By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 2:49 a.m. ET June 5, 2006
Don’t be surprised if Tom Cruise becomes a NASCAR fan. Scientology is getting into the wildly popular race sport.

“Dianetics,” the book written by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, is sponsoring a racing team — dubbed “Ignite Your Potential” — that will tour the NASCAR circuit. A Dianetics Racing Web site is being set up for fans.

Driver Kenton Gray credits Hubbard’s work with making him a good driver. “It’s markedly improved my focus and my consistency,” he said in an announcement from Hubbard’s publisher. “Through ‘Dianetics’ I’ve handled stress and increased my performance and ability to compete—both on the track and in life.”

“Scientology makes a point of recruiting celebrities as a part of it’s marketing appeal,” says a source. “If this is another marketing appeal — reaching out to the NASCAR crowd — it’s brilliant.”

“We’re not out selling a product,” Grant Cardone, the CEO of Freedom Motorsports, the company behind the car, told The Scoop. But he says, he too, is a fan of “Dianetics,” and if the Ignite Your Potential car helps troubled people, “that would be great.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13105675/

Two things I don't like collide. Truly, the end is nigh.

 

[AnimeJune]

There is a punishment and reward system that teaches people not to think for themselves. It starts in the public schools where kids are taught to absorb and regurgitate whatever they are told without question. If they don't comply, they get really bad grades or are even forced to take the same classes over again until they get it right. Much of the workplace is similar. College is one of the last bastions of free thinking left, and even then it depends on what your area of study is. Way back when I was a marketing major, the business school at the University I attended was entrenched in making students learn what they were told so that they could spout it off in rote.

jag

Wow - someone had a bad time in elementary school. If they don't "comply" with what they're taught, they fail. So it's a big conspiracy against kids who don't believe pi is 3.14 or that the sky is blue? God forbid that people who never learn how to put 2+2 together or who won the Battle of the Bulge can be denied positions of power. How would you rather they teach grade school?

Teacher: "The sky is blue, but go with what you feel, kids."
Kid: "I think the sky is green."
Teacher: "Go with that idea, Bobby. A+"

Now you tell me how that child is prepared for real life.

 

[jaguarr]

Wow - someone had a bad time in elementary school. If they don't "comply" with what they're taught, they fail. So it's a big conspiracy against kids who don't believe pi is 3.14 or that the sky is blue? God forbid that people who never learn how to put 2+2 together or who won the Battle of the Bulge can be denied positions of power. How would you rather they teach grade school?

Teacher: "The sky is blue, but go with what you feel, kids."
Kid: "I think the sky is green."
Teacher: "Go with that idea, Bobby. A+"

Now you tell me how that child is prepared for real life.

I think you missed the point of my post.

jag

 

[AnimeJune]

I think you missed the point of my post.

jag

But that's what art and music and drama classes in school were for.

 

[jaguarr]

But that's what art and music and drama classes in school were for.

No, that's not what they were for. And, anyway, do you have any idea how many schools have cut those classes from their cirriculum because the funding for them has been cut?

jag

 

[AnimeJune]

No, that's not what they were for. And, anyway, do you have any idea how many schools have cut those classes from their cirriculum because the funding for them has been cut?

jag

Point made - I justtake offense when people go all conspiracy-theory and think they're brainwashing kids to be drones in elementary and junior high. Kids because drones on their own, because they're lazy.

 

[jaguarr]

Point made - I justtake offense when people go all conspiracy-theory and think they're brainwashing kids to be drones in elementary and junior high. Kids because drones on their own, because they're lazy.

The teachers certainly don't help matters. I'd say the teachers are more lazy than the kids. It does contribute to a population that doesn't think for themselves in the long run.

jag

 

[AnimeJune]

The teachers certainly don't help matters. I'd say the teachers are more lazy than the kids.

jag

Did you have bad teachers? I had really good teachers - good, considering the tiny salaries and lousy job security they have. They've got the short end of the stick, in my opinion.

University professors have far less to do then grade school teachers. Profs have tenure.

 

[jaguarr]

Did you have bad teachers? I had really good teachers - good, considering the tiny salaries and lousy job security they have. They've got the short end of the stick, in my opinion.

University professors have far less to do then grade school teachers. Profs have tenure.

I went to school long before the current teaching styles took hold in the public school systems. I'm talking about what's happening in today's day and age. I have visibility to this through my niece's and nephews and the schools they go to. My brother has put my nephew in three different schools an several different teachers because of this very issue of teachers wanting kids to simply listen to what they are told and regurgitate it on command without asking questions (my nephew is VERY inquisitive by nature) which is something my brother and sister-in-law don't want squashed in him. (We won't even talk about how these same teachers want to put every boy in their class on Ritalin so that they'll act like quiet, proper little girls). My brother-in-law, who lives on the other side of the country, has had the same issues with the schools my nieces go to.

jag

 

[Malice]

I went to school long before the current teaching styles took hold in the public school systems. I'm talking about what's happening in today's day and age. I have visibility to this through my niece's and nephews and the schools they go to. My brother has put my nephew in three different schools an several different teachers because of this very issue of teachers wanting kids to simply listen to what they are told and regurgitate it on command without asking questions (my nephew is VERY inquisitive by nature) which is something my brother and sister-in-law don't want squashed in him. (We won't even talk about how these same teachers want to put every boy in their class on Ritalin so that they'll act like quiet, proper little girls). My brother-in-law, who lives on the other side of the country, has had the same issues with the schools my nieces go to.

jag

BINGO, we have a winner!

 

[AnimeJune]

Speaking from someone who actually TOOK Ritalin, it didn't change my inquisitiveness one bit.

But it's a matter of extremes, I think. A teacher's got to look after 30 kids, she can't keep pausing every three seconds to answer the ones made by the kid who can't stay on topic.

 

[jaguarr]

I didn't say Ritalin was for taking the inquisitiveness out of kids. I inferred that it was for taking the hyperactiveness out of them, thus my remark that the goal of it for many teachers is so that little boys (who are naturally energetic most of the time) will act like docile little girls in class. Yes, public schools are grossly underfunded and overcrowded. Yes, teachers are underpaid and have too many students to keep track of. Yes that leads to the easiest approach to teaching those teachers can find. Our government has it's priorities quite backwards when it comes to education, and I think you and I are agreeing on that.

jag

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Well, I'd like to interject that public school education has done great for me so far.

I've met some of the best, most insightful, thought provoking, and caring teachers in my life in public high school. Teachers willing to accomodate for my inattentive disorder and (if need be) provide exstensive one on one help in subjects that I struggle in, or assignments that I'm having problems with.

Just the perspective on one student still in public schooling.

I also recognize that many, if not most public schools in the country are in bad shape, but I wanted to inject my personal experience into the argument.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

I believe Hubbard is on record as saying something akin to "The fastest way to get rich is to create your own religion" or some similar thing. I think the Scientologists are fully aware that they are nothing more than a multi-level marketing scheme hiding behind a moniker of religion. They are all about the Benjamins and that's even evident in their belief that you can actually buy your way to the next life. Silly.

jag

Actually, the Catholic Church had a similar philosophy for quite some time...

 

[jaguarr]

Well, I'd like to interject that public school education has done great for me so far.

I've met some of the best, most insightful, thought provoking, and caring teachers in my life in public high school. Teachers willing to accomodate for my inattentive disorder and (if need be) provide exstensive one on one help in subjects that I struggle in, or assignments that I'm having problems with.

Just the perspective on one student still in public schooling.

I also recognize that many, if not most public schools in the country are in bad shape, but I wanted to inject my personal experience into the argument.

There are pockets of hope, but sadly the average student doesn't seem to get your experience. I don't think the teachers WANT to have things be unproductive for the students. I just think they're overwhelmed, outnumbered and unsupported.

jag

 

[jaguarr]

Actually, the Catholic Church had a similar philosophy for quite some time...

Not a fan of the Catholics, either.

jag

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Not a fan of the Catholics, either.

jag

HEATHEN!

144,000 hail marys for that!

 

[jaguarr]

HEATHEN!

144,000 hail marys for that!

jag

 

[TheSumOfGod]

jag

Well, either 144,000 hail marys, or you let Father Badtouch have his way with you. Your choice.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

This could be a VERY good thing

If scientology begins preaching the virtues of flagellatory auto-asphyxiation to it's target audience or something.