Jessica Jones Season 1, Episode 10 "AKA 1,000 Cuts" (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Pwoper Nereguar]

A Reminder That This Thread Is Only To Discuss Episode 10: AKA 1,000 Cuts

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A discovery has the potential to change the entire game -- if Jessica can refuse Kilgrave's offer.

 

[BatsDC]

This episode took no time getting going... Goddamn.

Probably my favourite so far.

 

[Antman2015]

This episode took no time getting going... Goddamn.

Probably my favourite so far.

I am in agreeance. Anyone notice how much Simpson's hairstyle looks like Evan's does in Winter Soldier? Nice touch

 

[Mike Murdock]

Hoggarth betraying them isn't shocking. I figured it would probably happen. The end result of that was unexpected. And that's just the beginning of the episode. This was the episode of unexpected shocks. First was Lester Freemon's death by Simpson. That was just shocking because it also was so counterproductive. On the other hand, this is Nuke as he truly is. I wasn't expecting them to use this character in anything but name and I'm thrilled to have been proven wrong. Second is with Hope. To avoid the pun, let's just say I was optimistic things would work out. The fact that it didn't was such bitter sadness. But I get the point. The biggest reason to avoid killing Killgrave was to clear Hope's name. I think at this point, killing him might be the best option. It's great to prove he exists, to clear the names of those who he damaged, but it's not clear that's a viable option. What's interesting is neither death this episode was at the command of Killgrave.

I'm curious to see where they go from here. At least Daredevil saved the biggest shocks for episodes 11 and 12. There's three episodes left here. On a side note, that sister character is extremely unlikeable, sorry.

Four and a Half Stars.

 

[Heretic]

The sister character is not funny annoying...she just makes a scene hard to watch. The fact that a major plot turn hinged on her is kind of frustrating.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

I assume we are supposed to find her annoying but the actress is really OTTing it.

 

[jokesonm3]

Man alive, this episode i tell ya.....

 

[Keyser Soze]

EPISODE 10: 1,000 CUTS
I had conflicted feelings about this episode. On one hand, it had some of the tensest, most thrilling set-pieces of the series yet, meaning it was suitably gripping viewing. However, I think creatively the show took a couple of missteps here. Namely, in the abrupt resolution of the Hope story, which has been the anchor throughout the season which has given the Jessica/Kilgrave story higher stakes than just revenge and personal empowerment. Generally, I felt the Jessica/Kilgrave stuff here hit some of the same beats as recent previous episodes and didn't really bring too much new to proceedings. More interesting was the stuff happening among the supporting cast, like Malcolm's guilt, Simpson continuing his progression into Nuke from the comics (and I'm kicking myself I didn't connect those dots and realise that's who he was earlier) and arguably most compellingly, the side-plot of Hogarth and the two women in her life coming to a head. Carrie-Anne Moss has done stellar work in this show, even if her character hasn't always felt of central relevance to the story.

 

[T"Challa]

man, watching Wendy slice up Jeryn was straight up hard to watch. Thats saying something considering this show has no shortage of messed up s***

 

[Yowza]

This episode had some forward progress. I felt some of the previous episodes tread water in places a bit. Now, with the Hope Schlottman story reaching it's conclusion it makes a few of the past episodes better as you see how far they went to try and save her (or how far Jessica went; surprising so many others went with her). It's definitely a key turning point.

Simpson's storyline seems to finally turned as well along with Hogarth's subplot drama finally making some sense for where it was headed and how the characters are forced to define themselves moving forward.

In other words I think the show was dangerously treading water a bit at times mid-season and this episode kind of put things together in retrospect a bit I felt.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

this episode and episode 9

man, back-to-back

these 2 right here is what pushes this show into holy crap territory. def 2-3 twists i didn't see coming

i'll say it imo, series is straight up better than daredevil and i still have 3 to go. arguably marvel's best stuff too

 

[Golgo-13]

EPISODE 10: 1,000 CUTS
I had conflicted feelings about this episode. On one hand, it had some of the tensest, most thrilling set-pieces of the series yet, meaning it was suitably gripping viewing. However, I think creatively the show took a couple of missteps here. Namely, in the abrupt resolution of the Hope story, which has been the anchor throughout the season which has given the Jessica/Kilgrave story higher stakes than just revenge and personal empowerment. Generally, I felt the Jessica/Kilgrave stuff here hit some of the same beats as recent previous episodes and didn't really bring too much new to proceedings. More interesting was the stuff happening among the supporting cast, like Malcolm's guilt, Simpson continuing his progression into Nuke from the comics (and I'm kicking myself I didn't connect those dots and realise that's who he was earlier) and arguably most compellingly, the side-plot of Hogarth and the two women in her life coming to a head. Carrie-Anne Moss has done stellar work in this show, even if her character hasn't always felt of central relevance to the story.

I was wondering what was going on with him, and the drugs he was getting.

This has been my favorite ep so far. I like (not love) the show, however when you binge-watch i find Jessica's whole moody tough-girl,'i don't take **** from no-one' attitude very annoying...probably because i'm seeing the eps back to back, vs on a weekly basis.

 

[Quasimod0]

Good heavens this episode was really tough to watch. Some seriously messed up stuff happened in this one. I'm glad Hogarth is now seen as the total jerk she really is.

And boy is that sister character annoying. She is like a cartoon character, and doesn't even feel like she belongs in this show.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

This episode had the first big misstep for me, ie the support group suddenly being important and Ruben's sister leading the charge to hold Jessica accountable, it really felt like a weird plot point that came out of nowhere, really funky stuff.

It's the only bad thing.

 

[Chance Jackson]

This episode had the first big misstep for me, ie the support group suddenly being important and Ruben's sister leading the charge to hold Jessica accountable, it really felt like a weird plot point that came out of nowhere, really funky stuff.

It's the only bad thing.

Agreed, a lot of that subplot diminished the show.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well... Nice to know that Jessica can still be snarky to Det. Clemons in the middle of an emergency situation. t:

Well... this episode... Where to start?

[BLACKOUT]I could see where the Hogarth subplot was going to lead... BUT JESUS, I never imagined that it would literally get so bloody ugly. Poor Jeri, I think she still loved Hogarth, to have to do that to someone at a mere word's command... Truly the power of Killgrave is a terrible thing to behold and he's a vengeful adolescent at heart so it's unleashed with so little thought or earned empathy. I must say, that I did not see the Hogarth/Pam/Jeri story playing out this way at all. I almost don't know how to feel, but frankly my sympathy has always been with Jeri, and her death is terrible. Have we had EVER any CBM adaptation that is so female centric? It hit me when watching the scene of Jeri's death that here we had the culmination of a story on a show based on a comic book character and the scene had no men in it aside from the absent Killgrave, none were involved. In their way Pam and Hogarth deserve each other but Pam understands now the depths of Hogarth's amoral code of life. I don't think even she thought that Hogarth was capable of such actions, or maybe she just never realized until now the real price from living by such a code? I am sure Hogarth just thinks she's practical but in this case she's got a bloody trail of bodies herself due to her actions. I myself am wondering if she sees the end of the series to be used later on in JJ season two or in Iron Fist/Cage ect.? Sorry to say but, Hogarth is not just a "gray" character. She's got a stone cold heart and I frankly think she's irredeemable. But... Those qualities also make her an engaging character and one which can add a lot to a story. I am surprised by my attachment to Moss's take one here but, quality is quality. [/BLACKOUT]

Now... The one HUGE false note of this episode? [BLACKOUT]Reuben's sister... JESUS CHRIST, the character, the arc, the sudden (but not without previous set up true... Still...) thrust into the main story of being this decisive element... Yeah, was not feeling it, even if it made sense. The character and her brother from the start were both a twee too precious, flat, and above all, uninteresting. The complication of this quite annoying character is... Okay, I get it. Chaos theory and all, but... the show already bucks so many trends I guess this one more blind sided element left me cold, since I had no interest or love for the character. It certainly upped the stakes given the situation but... Yeah, not my cup o' tea. [/BLACKOUT]

As for the other shocks this episode? [BLACKOUT]The thing with Simpson was... I get it, and I see why but it was still very shocking. Maybe it's just me but I understood the character's viewpoint and liked him... But I am thinking the Nuke Program drugs are at work her along with his obsession creating a perfect storm of a psycho. There's no coming back from killing CLemons and he's screwed up so much burning up all the evidence, which seems a bit over the top but then... Nuke was always an over the top type of character. The fear that the show inspired once Simpson showed up at Trish and Killgrave's father's doorstep was the worst, in a good way. The sense of dread and heartbreak for Trish was palpable at that moment. The show has actually ramped up the paranoia with this episode and that is saying something. [/BLACKOUT]

[BLACKOUT]Like I said before I trust that there will be a solid reasoning behind Jessica's immunity to Killgrave, but it was already enough to see that moment of flashback, those important "18 seconds" which seemed to set this whole bloody mess in motion. Jessica groping her way to freedom, Kilgrave mistaking it for a desire to be with him in his twisted mind. It was all done so well. As for how this all played out? You can't say that the show doesn't have the courage of it's convictions. This is NOT a show about perfect moral endings being tied up in a big bow. This isn't about pure good defeating evil with no real cost. It's almost, ALMOST, too dark to be enjoyable, but the general quality and frankly, the BALLS to do what they have with the show keeps me locked in. I frankly would not be surprised if this episode was the straw that broke the camel's back for some though. It's funny, but when I was a wee lad, such a show would have definitely set off my inner fanboy filled with indignation. "Why must it always be dark and gritty? Why is that the only way these things get noticed? Is that the only way people recognize quality, and blah, blah, blah." Truly, that is how I was as a young genre fan. Staring down forty now, with more than 20 years of life on planet Earth separating the old me from today's me and I think I have built up the life experience to appreciate something like JJ. I don't know how the show will end but I am sure it won't be pretty all around. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Mike Murdock]

Can you please use spoiler code rather than blackout text if you're writing that much. It's actually really difficult to read.

 

[Dr.]

[BLACKOUT]This is NOT a show about perfect moral endings being tied up in a big bow. This isn't about pure good defeating evil with no real cost. It's almost, ALMOST, too dark to be enjoyable, but the general quality and frankly, the BALLS to do what they have with the show keeps me locked in. I frankly would not be surprised if this episode was the straw that broke the camel's back for some though. It's funny, but when I was a wee lad, such a show would have definitely set off my inner fanboy filled with indignation. "Why must it always be dark and gritty? Why is that the only way these things get noticed? Is that the only way people recognize quality, and blah, blah, blah." Truly, that is how I was as a young genre fan. Staring down forty now, with more than 20 years of life on planet Earth separating the old me from today's me and I think I have built up the life experience to appreciate something like JJ. I don't know how the show will end but I am sure it won't be pretty all around.[/BLACKOUT]

I very much liked the first season of Mr. Robot. Clearly, excellent, well-written television. But it’s so dark that I don’t have any great desire to re-watch (at least not right away). On the other hand, I can’t wait to re-watch Jessica Jones - which is, arguably, just as dark. I suppose it's because Elliot (in Mr. R) is more like a Kafkaesque victim (and a tad depressing for that reason) whereas Jessica is, ultimately, a true hero.

 

[Neno_Kos]

the worst villain in Jessica Jones is sister of a guy who cut his throat.

 

[Lencho01]

Didn't like this episode. Just too much stupidity all around.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Didn't like this episode. Just too much stupidity all around.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Lencho01]

Care to elaborate?

The actions of several characters.

Spoiler

Hogarth, first and foremost. She knew what Kilgrave could do and the type of person he is and yet...

Kilgrave's parents, especially his mother.

Malcolm, for saying what he did with Ruben to the group.

The group, for listening to Robyn.

Robyn.

Simpson, which I knew could possibly turn evil based on his comics history, but his actions were still dumb to me. Like a Punisher with no sense.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I agree with a lot of that. I love most of what this show does...but episdoe 10 had a lot of dumb going on. And I really don't think Robyn works...at all. The attempt to use her as a comedic relief often fails miserably, especially because they try to have her do something "funny" at times it really doesnt fit. And within the same moment, have her jump to a very dramatic moment. It's almost like she was two different characters mashed together that they forgot to fully edit.

 

[KingCheops]

I have to disagree with opinions of Robyn on here. She's an utterly detestable harpy but I felt like the scene with her putting up posters for her brother was probably the most poignant moment of the episode. I think it also illustrates just how ****** it is for non-powered individuals in this post-BoNY world and what happens to said people when they try to take on powered individuals. It continues the theme from the earlier episode with the jewelry vigilante.

Small characters like this are precisely what you need on the TV shows in order to cover the gaps that Civil War is invariably going to have.

 

[Xclaim]

*sigh* Poor Hope...