Season 1 / Episode 6: What If... Killmonger Rescued Tony Stark?

Discussion in 'What If...?' started by HammerDown, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. HammerDown High Tide Or Low Tide

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    I wouldn’t say Killmonger was a genius but he was cunning, resourceful, intelligent and manipulative.

    For the most part he played the cards right and even when things didn’t really work out at 100% he still managed to course correct with his resourcefulness. He also made the most out of his connections, both in the military and within Wakanda.

    Now the story isn’t finished yet and the only way from the top of that mountain is down.
     
  2. Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014/2019 Champion

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    I get how the events play out. But for me, everyone goes about everything in the stupidest way possible. Tony has no reserve security in case the robot loses? He builds the robot just because the dude he met 2 days ago asks? T'Chaka has no questions about this man he doesn't know that has motive for revenge? Etc. Everyone is written like idiots. It didn't work for me
     
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  3. HammerDown High Tide Or Low Tide

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    I think you might be nitpicking a little. But if it didn’t really work for you there really isn’t anything I can do about it.

    Also these characters are at the begging of their MCU journey, Tony Stark at this point is just a cocky genius bilionaire with a drinking problem. Killmonger saved his life, exposed the orchestrator which was running TS Industries, they drank together, bonded… Killmonger is also T’Chaka’s nephew and the spiting image of his father, he basically slotted in to T’Challa’s place in Wakanda and probably even in T’Chaka’s heart because of the circumstances.

    I actually think the writing in this episode is probably the strongest we’ve seen in the series.

    Let’s just agree to disagree on those one.
     
  4. Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014/2019 Champion

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    Yeah, we just have to. Cause I don't buy any of that for a second. Even when they are like "Hey. You have been at the center of 3 murders" everyone just brushes that off. Ross I could see, but seriously, come on! Sloppy writing to me
     
  5. HammerDown High Tide Or Low Tide

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    Well it’s a fact what Pepper stated but General Ross is clearly on Killmonger’s side because there’s isn’t any proof of wrongdoing and because he’s also military and a war hero. From then on Pepper as a civilian can do very little since the military took over Stark Industries, everything he had and still works with Killmonger. Also suspension of disbelief.

    Of course when Shuri joins the mix then things change dramatically because she has proof to back up her suspicions and both can unite in bringing him down as we see in the mid-season trailer footage.
     
  6. Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014/2019 Champion

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    Again. I saw the episode so I was following the plot just fine. This accurately describes what was happening, but that doesn't make it good writing or make sense in general. Yeah. T'Chaka can just trust random guy and not ask questions in your story, but that doesn't make me believe your story. The writing here didn't sell the story to me. It just made the other characters seem like idiots in ways they were not before. Sorry, just how I see it
     
  7. samsnee Ok

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    What irked me was they had 2018 Killmonger in the year 2008. I assume the character was only in his early 30s at best in Black Panther. It wouldn’t have made sense he had all his kill notches in 2008 or be a strategic genius when he was just starting out.
     
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    Yeah it’s lower on the ranking for me but I understand why people liked it. It’s a pretty dark episode and much more character driven.
     
  9. Dark Raven It's not about what you deserve...

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    Maybe 2018 Kilmonger went back in time to 2008 to change history, knowing how things worked out for him in 2018.
     
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    I understand the love for the Strange episode, but we're all gonna have different opinions on these episodes.

    I felt this episode was just okay to fine, but other people think it was great, so, courses for horses.
     
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    You could hear in Chadwick's voice that he was weakened at this point already. And the final line from The Watcher....
     
  12. HammerDown High Tide Or Low Tide

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    I wonder if someone noticed this moment in the episode, earlier in the scene just before Killmonger stood atop the cliff looking at the horizon there was a moment where we see the Watcher standing in the background looking at those events and he genuinely looked really sad.

     
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    I like this concept of taking characters and merging them together to see what could have happened in different scenarios. I never liked the idea in comics as much as I wanted everything in continuity but maybe I need to go back and read more What If comics. Having this happen on a show and even more so being the first in animation makes it feel separate enough that they can get away with trying anything. Would have been different with films I think.
     

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