Senator Obama for president what's your opinion?

[Killgore]

1. Yes, decent people should be against abortion IMO.

2. It should not be the government's job to provide health insurance.

3. The poor and middle class should work harder if they don't like their situation.

4. Name one administration that hasn't tried to do this. If I recall FDR wanted to extend the number on the supreme court so he could nominate people who fit his agenda.

5. The government is not a religious theocracy, if you believe that you need a dictionary. BTW, the government wasn't set up to be a democracy, it was intended to be a republic. The founding fathers hated democracy.

6. I only vote for Pro-Life canidates. Sorry you don't like that.

1. Decent people? No one is FOR abortion you elitist snob. How convenient for you, a male, to dictate what a woman should or should not do. I personally do not believe in abortion, but being a man, I'll never have to make that decision. I would never condone my wife or daughter's choice to get one either. But far be it for me to tell some 15 year old high school drop out girl who has been molested by her stepfather, got pregnant, ran away from a highly abusive situation to end up living in a hovel and hasn't eaten in days that she should have her step daddy’s baby and must find a way to feed it when she can barely feed herself. You do realize that the girls (and yes, most are girls opposed to women) who get abortions are predominately white, unmarried, and live in poverty. Abortion isn't a solution, but it is actually a side effect of a much larger ill of society. And that takes us to numbers 2 and 3.

2 and 3. You want to legislate and tell these impoverished, uneducated girls that they have to have a baby they do not want and cannot support, and your answer is "you should work harder?" You want to be able to tell her that she must have the baby but you don't want to do anything to support her?

If you believe that God is against abortion you must also realize that above that, God is FOR free will. And that is why you cannot legislate scripture.

Health care is a human right and necessary to sustain freedom in a democracy. Every other industrialized democracy in the world has instituted a single-payer health care system.

And what's up with all the smug smiley faces after each comment? You're a *****e.

 

[kainedamo]

There was a guy somewhere on the hype that said he'd only want a pure blood white american male as President and he wasn't kidding.

 

[Killgore]

He's the bizzaro version of Osama Bin Laden.

So that makes him the good guy.

 

[kainedamo]

1. Decent people? No one is FOR abortion you elitist snob. How convenient for you, a male, to dictate what a woman should or should not do. I personally do not believe in abortion, but being a man, I'll never have to make that decision. I would never condone my wife or daughter's choice to get one either. But far be it for me to tell some 15 year old high school drop out girl who has been molested by her stepfather, got pregnant, ran away from a highly abusive situation to end up living in a hovel and hasn't eaten in days that she should have her step daddy’s baby and must find a way to feed it when she can barely feed herself. You do realize that the girls (and yes, most are girls opposed to women) who get abortions are predominately white, unmarried, and live in poverty. Abortion isn't a solution, but it is actually a side effect of a much larger ill of society. And that takes us to numbers 2 and 3.

2 and 3. You want to legislate and tell these impoverished, uneducated girls that they have to have a baby they do not want and cannot support, and your answer is "you should work harder?" You want to be able to tell her that she must have the baby but you don't want to do anything to support her?

If you believe that God is against abortion you must also realize that above that, God is FOR free will. And that is why you cannot legislate scripture.

Health care is a human right and necessary to sustain freedom in a democracy. Every other industrialized democracy in the world has instituted a single-payer health care system.

And what's up with all the smug smiley faces after each comment? You're a *****e.

I wouldn't worry about Man-Thing. The world is black and white in his eyes. He thinks the answers to complicated problems are simple.

 

[Chris B]

Second option. I like Obama, but he has only been in the Senate for two years, and in a general election his inexperience could cost him the White House, especially if he was running against John McCain. His inexperience is also why I wouldn't support him in the prmaries in '08.

I' said it before, but I think that if the Democrats want to stand chance of winning in 2008,then they should nominate Evan Bayh.

 

[Addendum]

I can show you where it says it in a comic book. Even a comic book writer knew this. It doesn't take a genius.

"with great power comes great responsiblity" the government is morally obligated.

The government of the United States wasn't written into effect by a comic book. The constitution is more important than a hokey comic book.

And compared to the foundation of this nation's laws, Spidey is hokey

 

[raybia]

You know i said before that I believed Obama would lose in 2008 if he ran. That he should wait untill 2012, because nominated losers don't usually get a second chance. I felt like him running in 2008 would be wasting his future opportunity for a highly probably victory he could have in 2012.

When watching hardball the other day they were talking about popularity and approval. 49% of America approves of Hillary Clinton and 50% don't. Only 1% has no opinion of her.Winning would be a very uphill battle for her.

Right after saying that they said that Obama's approval ratings by America are much higher than Hillary's, but they didnt' say the exact number. They did say that 40% of America has no opinion of him though. However if over half the country already views him favorably, than that's all he needs to win.

He resecently launched a presidential exploratory comittee, which basically means he's running for president even though he hasn't officially announced it yet. So basically Obama is runninf or presdient. And many analysts believe that outside of Al Gore deciding to run, Obama might be the only person who can beat Hillary for the nomination, and if having won it, his chances for the general election are actually better than Hillary's.

Before I wanted him to wait untill 2012 to run. i was pretty sure that republicans were going to win the presidenc in 2008, but now? I'm starting to feel excited about Obama, and feeling a strong sense of hope. I think he might have my vote in the primaries.

Although I'm still inclined to think that the best option would be a Hillary/Obama ticket. i think it would be strong, and it would secure Obama for a run after two Hillary terms. Remember Hillary is a fundraising juggernaut, and it does help in politics.

But Obama is also good at raising money. Very good. Almost as good as Hillary, and he could explode soon, in a good way

Any thoughts?

I think regardless, of his chances he should run in 2008. Its not like he cannot run again if he doesn't and there are few former Presidents who didn't win their 1st time.

Run, Obama, Run!

 

[Addendum]

Why are the Obama supporters using a phrase similar to what was used in Forrest Gump?

 

[raybia]

Why are the Obama supporters using a phrase similar to what was used in Forrest Gump?

Because! Forrest Gump was a fictional poor white guy from Alabama and Obama is a real black...guy...from...

Yeah, why are we using that phrase?

 

[Crowforge]

I'm not using any phrase, I want the guy to run, win and do a hell of a job.

 

[raybia]

I'm not using any phrase, I want the guy to run, win and do a hell of a job.

Yeah!

Go, Obama, Go!

Wait...That's the phrase from Speed Racer.

 

[muertevilla]

i was ready for a black president when Sharpton was running.....word is bon...

 

[Addendum]

Yeah!

Go, Obama, Go!

Wait...That's the phrase from Speed Racer.

Speed Racer is better than Forrest Gump

 

[halfapple]

too soon atm, but......

If the vote were now?

Obama now!

 

[C.F. Kane]

I think Obama definitely should run...

But only as Vice President. He's a fine politician, but he has no experience working on international affairs, which will most certainly matter in the next four years. Having his name on the vice-presidential ticket will surely be a boost to the Democrat who runs for President.

And should he win, and keep a good track record during his tenure as VP, a future run for President would be assured.

 

[Spider-Bite]

And you know what else? Say tomorrow, if all the lower class and middle class suddenly woke up tomorrow with big houses and BMWs and high powered management jobs or woke up as lawyers or doctors...

Who the **** would do the other stuff??

Hahahaha!


I pretty much said the same thing, but the way you put it was very funny.

 

[raybia]

There was a guy somewhere on the hype that said he'd only want a pure blood white american male as President and he wasn't kidding.

Was his name...Adolf?

 

[Spider-Bite]

The government of the United States wasn't written into effect by a comic book. The constitution is more important than a hokey comic book.

I know that. My point was that it doesn't take a genius to know that with great power comes great responsibility. A comic book writer understood the world better than our president, but I'm not really surprised. A lot of Stan Lee's influence over the comic book industry had a liberal tone to it.

 

[raybia]

The absurdity of this argument should be readily apparent before it's even spoken or typed. I cannot take anyone seriously who would actually use this argument. It's stupid.

If a large portion of the population is unemployed or on the edge of poverty, then the GOVERNMENT is doing something wrong and the GOVERNMENT should try harder to make sure there are jobs for people.

And you know what else? Say tomorrow, if all the lower class and middle class suddenly woke up tomorrow with big houses and BMWs and high powered management jobs or woke up as lawyers or doctors...

Who the **** would do the other stuff??

Monkeys.

Didn't you see "Escape from the Planet of the Apes"?

 

[Spider-Bite]

Second option. I like Obama, but he has only been in the Senate for two years, and in a general election his inexperience could cost him the White House, especially if he was running against John McCain. His inexperience is also why I wouldn't support him in the prmaries in '08.

I' said it before, but I think that if the Democrats want to stand chance of winning in 2008,then they should nominate Evan Bayh.

Lincoln had only held one position before being president. he had served two years in the senate. He was a fresh face, an outsider to Washington who brought mega change, and is now considered one of the best president's we've ever had.

Right now Obama's inexperience could actually give him an advantage. People don't like the way things have been going. Obama could represent new modern age, while everyobdy else is seen as more of the same.

 

[Spider-Bite]

I think Obama definitely should run...

But only as Vice President. He's a fine politician, but he has no experience working on international affairs, which will most certainly matter in the next four years. Having his name on the vice-presidential ticket will surely be a boost to the Democrat who runs for President.

And should he win, and keep a good track record during his tenure as VP, a future run for President would be assured.

as a VP pick he could really help the nominee, and that way even if Hillary loses, it wouldn't hurt his chances of running in 2012. That's why I'm torn between a Hillary/Obama ticket and a Obama/somebody else ticket.

However I'm starting to really think his skin color will not hold him back. Remember 90% of black voters vote democrat, but they vote in small numbers. A black nominee could really increase the black vote, and America already really likes this guy a lot. He's considered very popular and likeable. I've really felt hopeless about the white house in 2008 untill this last week. Obama is making me walk with an extra bounce in my step!

Go Obama!

 

[terry78]

If he did run and win, he'd be dead the next day. They're not going to let it get that far. Same as with a female president.

 

[Spider-Bite]

So that makes him the good guy.

pretty much. Bush is basically the American version of Osama Bin Laden. A litte less evil, but with a simmillair version of how to govern. They are both social conservatives. Republicans are even slowly but surely hopping on the dictatorship bandwagon. They both oppose taking gay rights in a liberal direction. They both have right wing economic policies. They both support mixing politics with religion. They are the same on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. They both have right wing foreign policies. They are both dangerous. Bush is stupid dangerous and Osama Bin Laden is smart dangerous.

Osama Bin Laden even sent a message to the Iraqis that they should oppose democracy because it could lead to gay rights.

 

[Spider-Bite]

If he did run and win, he'd be dead the next day. They're not going to let it get that far. Same as with a female president.

Considering Bush is still alive I'd have to say your wrong.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Monkeys.

Didn't you see "Escape from the Planet of the Apes"?

shutters to think about eating fast food.