Sex Offender too short to serve prison time

And that wasn't the issue anyway...it was his height!!!
 
celldog said:
His mental state was not the issue that kept him out of prison! It was his friggin' height!! And for that, that Judge should be removed! I've never heard something so stupid!

You're missing my argument entirely. I'm not arguing for the judge's position. I'm saying he shouldn't be in a prison anyway because hes mentally ill. He needs to be locked up in a mental health facility.
 
celldog said:
As if all criminals are just sick....not evil scum that truly know what they are doing and enjoy their work.

Theres no such thing as evil you simpleton. Theres greed, stupidity, self-absorbtion, fear, INSANITY, but there is no "evil".

And I'm not saying all criminals are sick, either. I'm saying child molestors are mentally sick. Serial killers are mentally sick. I'm not talking about bank robbers and con artists.
 
Maxwell Smart said:
Theres no such thing as evil you simpleton. Theres greed, stupidity, self-absorbtion, fear, INSANITY, but there is no "evil".

And I'm not saying all criminals are sick, either. I'm saying child molestors are mentally sick. Serial killers are mentally sick. I'm not talking about bank robbers and con artists.


AAAAAhhh.. I was wondering when you were gonna say that! You are a piece of moral relativistic work. No evil in this world???

And you know this how????????

Do own any keys?
 
And again I ask you ........Do you have any children?
 
celldog said:
AAAAAhhh.. I was wondering when you were gonna say that! You are a piece of moral relativistic work. No evil in this world???

Theres no definable evil. There is NO act that can be called just "evil" and not some other adjective, such as "selfish", "cruel", "inconsiderate" etc.

Evil is a blanket term for negative ideas and acts that is rooted in religious concepts.
 
celldog said:
And again I ask you ........Do you have any children?

And again I tell you to **** yourself. Because whether or not I have children is in no way relevant to my argument. You're thick and HAVE NO counterargument of your own, not a sound, logical one anyway, so you're resorting to bull**** emotional ploys. And I'm not going to allow you to pry into my personal life to do that.
 
Maxwell Smart said:
Theres no definable evil. There is NO act that can be called just "evil" and not some other adjective, such as "selfish", "cruel", "inconsiderate" etc.

That's why you can be so heartless to that child victim. See...from your perspective the rapist was just being inconsiderate. Wow.


Evil is a blanket term for negative ideas and acts that is rooted in religious concepts.


Evil exists outside of religious concepts. Even those that have no religious affliation practice evil.

Do you own any keys??
 
celldog said:
That's why you can be so heartless to that child victim. See...from your perspective the rapist was just being inconsiderate. Wow.

And you're a brainless idiot. I didn't say that child molestors are inconsiderate, I was saying that some of the situations and actions that are described as evil could be described as inconsiderate, some of them can be called cruel, and so on. I didn't specifically say "child molestors are just inconsiderate". Stop twisting my words in an attempt to save your weak-ass argument.

I keep questioning your intelligence without consideration because you keep questioning my character. This needs to get out of the personal realm, which you've dragged it into.
 
Infact, I'm done with this discussion. I'm not going to sit here and let you question my character because you're not mature enough to calmly consider what I am saying.

I've said all I want to about this. We just have to agree to disagree, and move on. Later.
 
Maxwell Smart said:
And again I tell you to **** yourself. Because whether or not I have children is in no way relevant to my argument. You're thick and HAVE NO counterargument of your own, not a sound, logical one anyway, so you're resorting to bull**** emotional ploys. And I'm not going to allow you to pry into my personal life to do that.


Oh it has everything to do with this!! See, you will never find yourself as a parent of a child who has been raped! You're safe for now. You don't have any kids. You can spout off at the mouth about how smart you are and how dumb I am for acknowledging evil and seeking justice. But just as those like Oprah who have no children or have never had one spouse, should keep their vain philosophies to themselves, because they have no chance of going through that kind of fire. Having your own child will change your whole warped perspective, dude.

Call me dumb all you want. But at least I have common sense.

I'm going to bed....good night!

Have fun while I'm gone. :up:
 
What a stupid argument. You're both bad people for being involved in it.
 
celldog said:
Oh it has everything to do with this!! See, you will never find yourself as a parent of a child who has been raped! You're safe for now. You don't have any kids. You can spout off at the mouth about how smart you are and how dumb I am for acknowledging evil and seeking justice. But just as those like Oprah who have no children or have never had one spouse, should keep their vain philosophies to themselves, because they have no chance of going through that kind of fire. Having your own child will change your whole warped perspective, dude.

You just won't respect my right to my opinion. So as of now you're going on my ignore list.

oh and btw, my own father who is, obviously, a father, agrees with me. Have a nice life.
 
Superman79 said:
See, but if you don't believe prisons rehabiitate, then the logical function would be prisons punish. If that is the case, then anything that happens in prison would be part of the punishment. But since you also believe punishment is bad, then what would you advocate as an alternative to prison?? Slap on the wrist and say "bad puppy. don't do that again!"????

I advocate the reform of prisons. The inmates' lives should be protected and their humanity should be respected. The guards should do their jobs. Prisoners should be given a true chance at rehabilitation. Then, as I've said, if they can't be rehabilitated, keep them in the system forever and away from society where they could harm more people.

If prisons were safe for inmates, then this man's height wouldn't matter. But they aren't safe. The prison system is corrupt and backwards, but society doesn't care because most people feel that inmates deserve to suffer. And thus things stay the same.
 
SpiderB said:
I advocate the reform of prisons. The inmates' lives should be protected and their humanity should be respected. The guards should do their jobs. Prisoners should be given a true chance at rehabilitation. Then, as I've said, if they can't be rehabilitated, keep them in the system forever and away from society where they could harm more people.

If prisons were safe for inmates, then this man's height wouldn't matter. But they aren't safe. The prison system is corrupt and backwards, but society doesn't care because most people feel that inmates deserve to suffer. And thus things stay the same.



I just puzzled as to why all of this symapthny poured out for the criminal. What about the victim??
 
celldog said:
I just puzzled as to why all of this symapthny poured out for the criminal. What about the victim??

Of course there is sympathy for the victim. However, that doesn't remove the fact that our prison system further victimizes convicts than it should.
 
This is absolutely ridiculous. This midget should be in jail!! There are places they can put him like in sections for rape victims or gay inmates.
 
There is also solitary confinement or the Mental ward.
 
well there is a 3' midget that is currently housed in parchment.and how do i know this you ask?because he was seen by students of my school who was sent to spend a day in prison for fighting.
 
Lord Siva said:
I wish Danny Devito did get sent to jail. :(
he looks tough...I'm sure he could hold his own...plus, he not a #$%#$% child molester

this is wrong........I have a short cousin, I'm going to tell him to go rob a bank or something
 
Once again I disagree. His safety is a reasonable concern in sentencing. Prisons shouldn't be like that in the first place, though.
 
Maxwell Smart said:
Once again I disagree. His safety is a reasonable concern in sentencing. Prisons shouldn't be like that in the first place, though.

It really depends on the prison...in Nebraska there is no excuse, we have some of the nicest/safest prison facilities in the nation.
 

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