Sex Offender too short to serve prison time

[Maxwell Smart]

you are the one who need help the onley way to "reform " these people is to castrate them

You need medication, and a High School education wouldn't hurt either.

 

[ScottyBBadd]

First off I apologize- that was uncalled for.

And if thats true, which I guess it is, then obviously there needs to be a change in the law. Thats my opinion.

Apology accepted. In an insanity plea there is no trial, hence no conviction. No conviction no requirement for sex offender registration.

 

[Q_Ball75065]

u want kinky friedman as the governer u know he would send the guilty to jail obviusly u hate america and all it represents and as soon as u finish your nap u can puy in your responce old man

You need medication, and a High School education wouldn't hurt either.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Apology accepted. In an insanity plea there is no trial, hence no conviction. No conviction no requirement for sex offender registration.

Right, well I think they need to change that somehow.

Apology accepted. In an insanity plea there is no trial, hence no conviction. No conviction no requirement for sex offender registration.

"If I only had a braaaaain..."

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Apology accepted. In an insanity plea there is no trial, hence no conviction. No conviction no requirement for sex offender registration.

Right, well I think they need to change that somehow.

u want kinky friedman as the governer u know he would send the guilty to jail obviusly u hate america and all it represents and as soon as u finish your nap u can puy in your responce old man

"If I only had a braaaaain..."


Btw, I know you're Q_ball Scotty. Quit trolling with alternate accounts.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Haha, he got p-banned.

 

[celldog]

The State should have to abide by certain principles of human rights.

The Justice system isn't about revenge, its about prevention and rehabilitation. If someone can't be rehabilitated, then the justice system's responsibility is to keep them seperated from the rest of society. The justice system has no responsiblity to the victim though IMO. That is up to civil courts.

You're kidding right???? Please tell me you're kidding!! This scum bag molested a "child"!! and some lib judge said he was too short to survive prison?????? Well I'm sure that the "CHILD" was too short to be molested by him. And sure, it should not be about revenge. You mentioned rehab and prevention........uhhhhhh You left out the other word that the system is named for......."JUSTICE". Boy that's a novel thought. Good old fashion justice. Getting a just punishment for inflicting pain and suffering on an innocent. This guy should be in jail! Like he's the first short guy to go to prison ever???????

That judge needs to be removed fromt the bench!!! And some of you need a heart transplant! No responsibility to the victim?..Boy I've heard it all now.

Do you have children Max??? Just curious...........

 

[celldog]

Can't do the time, don't do the crime. Throw him to the wolves.

I AGREE!!
LIKE HE'S THE FIRST SHORT GUY TO GO TO THE PEN??????? WHAT IS THIS CRAP???????

 

[celldog]

Ok, first off, prisons are not lion’s dens. Yes, they can be dangerous, cold, not nice places to be. But guess what? THEY”RE SUPPOSED TO BE!!! It’s called deterrence. If prison is a bad place, then people won’t want to go there, and therefore will not commit crimes (according to the preventionist approach). Even then, they don’t just throw all prisoners together and say ‘here ya go...good luck’. Even then, those on the retributivist side of thinking believe that any kind of justice (even jail house justice, which does exist) is appropriate as the punishment should fit the crime. Here, the punishment clearly does not fit the crime.



Bullcrap! A man called into the radio as the matter was being discussed while I was driving to work today. He was a Hispanic gentleman who was around 5 foot tall. He was in prison for 3 years for a felony assault. He is now a productive member of society. He was in a Nebraska prison and he survived. He said himself that height doesn’t matter. And you make prison sound as if they are being flogged daily. They have it much better than you know. High caliber workout facilities, library, better food than we feed to our schoolchildren or college kids, and a chance to earn degrees on the taxpayers dime. Oh yeah, REAL tough life behind bars.



Treatment and counseling? Tell that to the parents of Jetsetta Gauge in Iowa who’s pedophile killer was given counseling and parole from his previous offenses. Or John Cofee who killed that little girl in Florida, or the other SOB from Minnesota (i believe) who convinced the judge he was not a threat and needed counseling only to go to Montana and kidnap two children, killing one of them. Oh yeah, they need “understanding and counseling”...what they need is a bullet to the head. These men who would rape and kill a CHILD ARE animals and should be treated as such.



WHAT!?!?!?
The judicial system does not need to take into account height, weight, sexual orientation, favorite color, or even age. It should do what it does, take into account the crime, the victim, and the law. End of story. You get judges weighing all these little factors and the system slows to a halt. The point of prison IS punishment. Justice is blind. You commit the crime, regardless of who you are, and you do the time. That is how a “civilized” society of laws works. None of this crap about lovey dovey feelings. It’s right and wrong, legal and illegal, crime and punishment. Period.

I apologise for going off, but it is seriously that sort of wishy-washy sentiment that puts dangerous people out on the street to harm innocents. Honestly, would you feel this way if it were your daughter/sister/cousin that was molested????

Dude....you are making too much sense!

 

[Darthphere]

"My god I spilled my coffee, god damn liberals and their cups!"

 

[Maxwell Smart]

You're kidding right???? Please tell me you're kidding!! This scum bag molested a "child"!! and some lib judge said he was too short to survive prison?????? Well I'm sure that the "CHILD" was too short to be molested by him. And sure, it should not be about revenge. You mentioned rehab and prevention........uhhhhhh You left out the other word that the system is named for......."JUSTICE". Boy that's a novel thought. Good old fashion justice. Getting a just punishment for inflicting pain and suffering on an innocent. This guy should be in jail! Like he's the first short guy to go to prison ever???????

That judge needs to be removed fromt the bench!!! And some of you need a heart transplant! No responsibility to the victim?..Boy I've heard it all now.

Chill the **** out. I've already said what I need to say on the subject.

Do you have children Max??? Just curious...........

Go **** yourself. Unless you can drop this baby-ass **** of using emotional ploys and debate logically, I'm not discussing it with you.

 

[celldog]

It makes sense and I think it's step in the right direction. Prisons are not supposed to be lions' dens where men are thrown in and have to fight for their lives or be torn to pieces. I don't care what the crime is, that's not something civilized humans should still be putting other human beings through, even as punishment. A man who's five feet tall wouldn't last two seconds in prison. The man is not a monster or an animal. He's a sick and misguided person, and needs treatment and counseling. He's got a much better chance of changing his ways on the outside with professional help and guidance than in prison. If it fails to work for him, then let him stay in the system forever. But the judicial system should take these kinds of things (stature, age, etc.) into consideration when deciding whether to put someone in a prison.

I would guess that would be based on the sick fact that the "child" he raped couldn't last two seconds with him either??

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Jesus is it a full moon tonight? This thread is swarming with nutters.

 

[celldog]

Chill the **** out. I've already said what I need to say on the subject.



Go **** yourself. Unless you can drop this baby-ass **** of using emotional ploys and debate logically, I'm not discussing it with you.

You don't know what logic is! It's obvious you don't have common sense!! And ifyou have no emotion tied to that child, you are the one with the problem.

 

[Darthphere]

You don't know what logic is! It's obvious you don't have common sense!! And ifyou have no emotion tied to that child, you are the one with the problem.

Why would anyone be emotionally tied to a child they dont know. You can feel bad and think its horrible but emotionally tied?

 

[celldog]

Jesus is it a full moon tonight? This thread is swarming with nutters.

You obviously don't have children. See...people like you trip me out. Talkin' from your ivory tower.....spoutin' off these weird philosophies and theories. Rehab and prevention.....yeah right...until this short guy pays a visit to you or one of your loved ones! Oh...believe me...you'll remember the "J" word, then.

 

[JLBats]

u want kinky friedman as the governer u know he would send the guilty to jail obviusly u hate america and all it represents and as soon as u finish your nap u can puy in your responce old man

Sigged, thank you.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

You don't know what logic is! It's obvious you don't have common sense!! And ifyou have no emotion tied to that child, you are the one with the problem.

I don't know this kid. Hey, 10,000 Rwandans die every day I don't see you crying over them.

What happened to him is horrible, but it was done by a mentally sick individual who belongs in a mental institution for the rest of his life. Not a prison. If the current law does not allowed those declared insane to become sex offenders, then there needs to be a change in the law.

How dare you question my character because I see mental illness for what it is and you're stuck in the middle ages where everyone is "good" or "evil".

 

[celldog]

Why would anyone be emotionally tied to a child they dont know. You can feel bad and think its horrible but emotionally tied?

Because we should care about people period. Especially those among us that are most vulnerable...our children our elderly....our sick.

 

[Darthphere]

Because we should care about people period. Especially those among us that are most vulnerable...our children our elderly....our sick.

Id argue that this man is sick as well. Should I care about him. According to you we shouldnt, we should feed him to the lions.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

You obviously don't have children. See...people like you trip me out. Talkin' from your ivory tower.....spoutin' off these weird philosophies and theories. Rehab and prevention.....yeah right...until this short guy pays a visit to you or one of your loved ones! Oh...believe me...you'll remember the "J" word, then.

Because I don't agree with you? My uncle feels the same way, hes a father. My own father feels this way too. So get off your high horse.

They are only weird philosophies because you aren't intelligent enough to understand them. You're less adept at abstract thought.

And quit trying to use emotional ploys, it weakens your argument. Of course I'd feel very angry at that person if they came after my family, but it DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE HELL I THINK. THE SYSTEM IS IMPARTIAL.

You may not like the way it sounds but the system owes no responsibility to the feelings of the family. It in no way should affect a court's decision.

 

[celldog]

I don't know this kid. Hey, 10,000 Rwandans die every day I don't see you crying over them.

And I want justice for them too!! Is that four-letter word for you??


What happened to him is horrible, but it was done by a mentally sick individual who belongs in a mental institution for the rest of his life. Not a prison. If the current law does not allowed those declared insane to become sex offenders, then there needs to be a change in the law.

His mental state was not the issue that kept him out of prison! It was his friggin' height!! And for that, that Judge should be removed! I've never heard something so stupid!

How dare you question my character because I see mental illness for what it is and you're stuck in the middle ages where everyone is "good" or "evil".

Not once do you even mention what the possible "mental state" of that child will be for the rest of its life! That's why I question your character! Scarred for life!

 

[JLBats]

Not once do you even mention what the possible "mental state" of that child will be for the rest of its life! That's why I question your character! Scarred for life!

I think you missed the point that he was saying this guy SHOULD go to jail

 

[celldog]

Because I don't agree with you? My uncle feels the same way, hes a father. My own father feels this way too. So get off your high horse.

They are only weird philosophies because you aren't intelligent enough to understand them. You're less adept at abstract thought.

And quit trying to use emotional ploys, it weakens your argument. Of course I'd feel very angry at that person if they came after my family, but it DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE HELL I THINK. THE SYSTEM IS IMPARTIAL.

Do you have children??????????



You may not like the way it sounds but the system owes no responsibility to the feelings of the family. It in no way should affect a court's decision.

The system owes justice.

 

[celldog]

I think you missed the point that he was saying this guy SHOULD go to jail

No...he said a mental institution........there's a difference!

As if all criminals are just sick....not evil scum that truly know what they are doing and enjoy their work.