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Shazam! Captain Marvel gets a director

terry78 said:
Do they plan on calling this thing Shazam! or Captain Marvel? I'd personally prefer they call it Captain Marvel, but hey.

They'll probably go with calling it Shazam! Considering that's what Billy shouts out to become Captain Marvel, even imdb.com has it listed under that.
 
Batman said:
No. The adult form he turns into is an exact resemblence of his father, C.C. Batson.

Source?


The movie will be called Shazam! most likely. DC's still afraid of using his real name because o you-know-whhat company.
 
Sundancer said:

I don't have one, I know that he does because I know ALOT about the character. But I'll still find some information that backs up what I said.
 
Batman said:
No. The adult form he turns into is an exact resemblence of his father, C.C. Batson.

Yeah, that's a Post-Crisis thing, but it's one of the few Post-Crisis ideas with Captain Marvel that I'm okay with.

They never showed Billy's parents in the original Fawcett Comics, all they said was that his parents died and his uncle swindled his inheritence away from him, leaving him homeless.
 
Kurosawa said:
Yeah, that's a Post-Crisis thing, but it's one of the few Post-Crisis ideas with Captain Marvel that I'm okay with.

It mentions his resemblence to his father when he's Captain Marvel here.

http://marvelfamily.com/images/whoswho/stats/JLAJSA_CM.jpg

Kurosawa said:
They never showed Billy's parents in the original Fawcett Comics, all they said was that his parents died and his uncle swindled his inheritence away from him, leaving him homeless.

You can see a picture of both his parents being murdered by Theo Adam in the link below.

http://dccomics.com/secret_files/pdfs/captain_marvel.pdf
 
Those stats give even more reason why Warburton could play him, as he's 6'3 also.
 
You know what's scary? SHAZAM might conceiveably get confused with KAZAM by some people.

(shudders)
 
The Guard said:
You know what's scary? SHAZAM might conceiveably get confused with KAZAM by some people.

(shudders)


I doubt most people remember that movie. I'm suppressing it...


Batman said:
It mentions his resemblence to his father when he's Captain Marvel here.

http://marvelfamily.com/images/whoswho/stats/JLAJSA_CM.jpg

"strangely similiar?" Well, I look "strangely similar" to my father too.

Sounds vague to me, but I'm the type of guy who really needs concrete proof. I couldn't make out the other link, though.

Think we'll get a few "Holey Moleys!" in the movie?
 
I sincerely hope they throw in a whole lot of "Holy Moly!"s.
As for looking like his father, well, a lot of son's are the spittin' image of their fathers'. It's genetic. Look at Allan Hale and Jr. The older Michael Douglas gets, the more of his father can be seen in him. Dan Blocker and his son. There are a lot more. Looking like his father is not the strange deal it's being made out for.
I hope they do a fairly serious movie, like the old movie serial, with a lot of light touches. Whatever they do, they need to keep it simple and not throw in every single character that ever showed up in the comic.
They also need to make sure that when Billy becomes Captain Marvel, we still know it's Billy, not some completely different character. He becomes/is Captain Marvel. He doesn't switch places with some superpowered being from another planet/dimension. That was the magic of the original comic.
 
Wasn't Putty the voice of Superman in those American Express commercials with Seinfeld?

This is a great thread, so many brilliant suggestions, and so many references to different eras and media of the Captain Marvel character. William Goldman is a legend, I hope he comes up with something great ( more Marathon Man and Butch and Sundance, rather than Absolute Power and Dreamcatcher ). I don't know about Peter Segal, someone earlier mentioned Harold Ramis; he directed and wrote some good comedies. Segal? I liked Tommy Boy, but come on. Hopefully Segal will be replaced. It seems Uslan has devoted his life to getting superheros on the screen, whether the screen be big or small. I loved Batman Begins and Constantine. Uslan began his career as a production attorney on The Black Stallion, Rocky II, Apocalpse Now and Raging Bull, well I guess if you have to be a lawyer...do it for good movies!

I remember Harry Knowles of Batman and Robin, that if they played it straight it would just be naturally campy, they played it campy and the whole thing just collapsed. This thread has a lot on should it be straight or campy. I think both, it should just be a great film with lots of different elements.

Like Donner's Superman, is it Sci fi, action, a love story, an action film, a fantasy film? YES. Like Donner said in an interview I saw on disc 2 of the special edition of The Lost Boys, people would ask him, is it a horror, action, comedy or teen film? He'd say YES it is. I just hope Captain Marvel goes out there to right wrongs, to develop understanding, and to seek justice for all!
 
Anytime I watch emperor's new groove, I always think of captain marvel when I see Kronk.
 
Thank you Armand Z!
I think the concensus is nobody wants a silly, campy comedy.
Too many childhood hopes and expectations are on the line.
The new Superman movie promises to be a real dud, although I think it will do well because of the special effects junkies. It already makes me cringe when I see the story-line. The only reason I would see it is to see how Jack Larson is doing. I always liked him in the original TV series. These cameos with the original actors can be fun. I may have been one of the few who recognized Kirk Alyn in the first Chris Reeve movie.
I hope they don't load it up and weigh it down with a lot of extraneous stuff.
Warburton is a pretty good choice. The Rock was suggested in one of the other threads.
He's pretty good too.
 
InkSlinger said:
The Rock was suggested in one of the other threads.
He's pretty good too.

Yeah but he doesn't do movies--movies become Rock vehicles, dumbed down for the wrestling crowd to a PG-13 rating (not that that's bad in this case). Walking Tall and the Rundown should have been R. Anything with gunfights should be R IMO.

I want to see this hyped as a Shazam movie, not a Rock movie.

One reason I hate casting threads. I want to focus on the character, not the actor.


InkSlinger said:
I sincerely hope they throw in a whole lot of "Holy Moly!"s.
As for looking like his father, well, a lot of son's are the spittin' image of their fathers'. It's genetic. Look at Allan Hale and Jr. The older Michael Douglas gets, the more of his father can be seen in him. Dan Blocker and his son. There are a lot more. Looking like his father is not the strange deal it's being made out for.
I hope they do a fairly serious movie, like the old movie serial, with a lot of light touches. Whatever they do, they need to keep it simple and not throw in every single character that ever showed up in the comic.
They also need to make sure that when Billy becomes Captain Marvel, we still know it's Billy, not some completely different character. He becomes/is Captain Marvel. He doesn't switch places with some superpowered being from another planet/dimension. That was the magic of the original comic.

.5 Fathers and sons? Jake and Gary Busey. No mistaking there! ;)

1. The Holy Moley's would make it hard to take this seriously on any level.

2. The old serial was strictly geared for action and suspense, no attempt at characterization.

3. The original comic didn't have it clear Billy and Marvel were the same...if anything it showed more they were separate. I'm going by the stories in the four Archive editions. I agree it should be that way though.
 
InkSlinger said:
I sincerely hope they throw in a whole lot of "Holy Moly!"s.
As for looking like his father, well, a lot of son's are the spittin' image of their fathers'. It's genetic. Look at Allan Hale and Jr. The older Michael Douglas gets, the more of his father can be seen in him. Dan Blocker and his son. There are a lot more. Looking like his father is not the strange deal it's being made out for.
I hope they do a fairly serious movie, like the old movie serial, with a lot of light touches. Whatever they do, they need to keep it simple and not throw in every single character that ever showed up in the comic.
They also need to make sure that when Billy becomes Captain Marvel, we still know it's Billy, not some completely different character. He becomes/is Captain Marvel. He doesn't switch places with some superpowered being from another planet/dimension. That was the magic of the original comic.

Actually in the original comics they left it ambiguous. I find that more interesting. After all, if Captain Marvel is just Billy Batson with powers, then why would he EVER switch back to being Billy? It's just stupid.
 
My top 3 picks for Captain Marvel would be:

George Eads
Patrick Warburton
Jerry O'Connell

I like Puddy, but there is this vibe from Eads that just makes me think he'd fit Captain Marvel exceedingly well.

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georgeeads049if.jpg
 
Anyone but Patrick Warburton or Bruce Campbell would likely suck in this role. So let's ignore boring topics like casting, and talk about the costume. Myself, I have seen literal translations of his comic book suit, and they look ridiculous. Now, I agree, that parts of his costume must remain intact: I.E, the red/gold color scheme, the lightning bolt on his chest, the button closure on his vest, the gold "wrist thingies", the gold boots, and the cape. Although, if the "small cape" exists, there has got to be a reason given why it's so weensy.
 
^Any one of those items left intact would still be campy looking, or at the least very homoerotic, so they may as well go all out and leave most of it in.
 
terry78 said:
^Any one of those items left intact would still be campy looking, or at the least very homoerotic, so they may as well go all out and leave most of it in.

Campy? Homoerotic? Why does every comic book Superhero costume in the movies end up being labeled homoerotic? We need to stop throwing labels around like little Republican/McCarthy Nazi's. For shame!
Enough of that. Sorry.

If you look at the costume worn by Tom Tyler in the original movie serial, you'll see everything that's in the comic, with two small differences.
1) The costume looks more like a military uniform, yet still fits snug.
Tylers leg muscles are very defined, as well as his biceps, yet the costume looks like a well-tailored uniform, taking any emphasis off his butt or crotch or nipples.
2) This is where the 'vest button' first shows up. It isn't in the original comic drawings. Captain Marvel's costume is just like Superman's. It looks like a Unitard. This western-shirt vest design was incorporated to give the shirt more of a 'uniform' look and to hide the nehru collar that Tyler needed to keep the cape rope from wearing a groove into his neck. The whole design works without looking campy. (And I'm sure he would have kicked your @## if you had said it looked homoerotic. I wish they had never put those damned nipples on the Batsuit. That ruined it for me.)

As to the 'other items'- the arm bands are based on the British Navy's rank insignia from that time period- the lower sleeves of officers uniforms were encircled with gold bands. A 'Captain's Rank' was 5 gold bands from the wrist up to the elbow. The top gold band had a small gold circle attached, which is why Captain Marvel's armbands look the way they do. The gold waist sash is also from an old officer's dress uniform.
Whether intentionally designed that way or not, the Captain is wearing the rank. The boots are swashbuckler boots, worn by 'men of adventure' in days past. There is a story behind the cape and the 4 florets that are designed along the one edge that I'm sure is related to the Three Musketeers-men who came to the aid of the oppressed and protected the true King of France. (I don't know this for sure.)

Put this same uniform on a muscular guy with the attitude of a police officer and I doubt it would look all that campy, or otherwise.
So I guess our friend from CSI would look pretty awesome in a Captain Marvel 'uniform'.
Do it right, take it seriously, it will work.
 
Actually the button flap was part of Cap's costume in the earliest Captain Marvel comics:


WhizComics2.jpg


And I agree-they just need to update the Tom Tyler costume.
 
Well, Peter Segal does have a history of working with giant man-childs.
 
Kurosawa said:
Actually the button flap was part of Cap's costume in the earliest Captain Marvel comics:


WhizComics2.jpg


And I agree-they just need to update the Tom Tyler costume.



My apologies.
I forgot about this one.
My collection only goes back as far as issue #47.
I think Eads would look pretty good in an updated version of Tyler's uniform.
Cosidering they've even put a smoother muscle suit under the new Superman suit that Routh wears for definition, do you think there should be more upper body muscle built into the new character suit? Or just see what kind of build the guy they pick has?
 

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