Sequels Should Deadpool be really a reboot?

[Lord]

I don't think so, i really think this desreved its oun thread.
Now because X-Men Origins: wolverine ****ed up the character it doesn't mean Deadpool should take place in a different universe than the other x-men movies.
X-Men origins actually tried to give him an origin, in the end of the film after the credits a decapitated deadpool searches for his head, and the head now has a mouth, in least my DVD ending has this.
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I would like Deadpool to keep continuity, actually a great part of the casual viewers that saw this are expecting him to reapear, so i think the movie should just aknowledge that Origins:w existed but wouldn't exactly have to mention it.
I think the deadpool movie should just be set in the x-men cinematic universe but like in the comics, serve as a self parody, break the fourth wall and able to bee seen without seeing the other films.
He could even say there was a bad XO: W movie but breaking the fourth wall by saying that was a bad way to introduce him.
The director of that film said he wanted Origins to also serve as an origin for why Deadpool uses a mask, Donner herself said he didn't use the costume yet because he was just modified recently and we would see a full Deadpool in a future film.

 

[def28]

If that ending was meant to be an official part of the movie they would have put it in the film, not after the credits.

Everyone on the Deadpool project has said it has nothing to do with XMOW. Also Colossos is in the Deadpool Script thats being used so they are in the same universe as the X Men. XMOW is just being excluded from everything. Cause it kind of ****s everything up continuity wise and doesnt really make sense. Especially with FC coming out.

 

[CelticPredator]

Uh... ****ing YES... if you disagree, you hate Deadpool. Just sayin...

 

[Ultra Lantern]

Bring it on!!!!

 

[marvelrobbins]

It Is best to consider both X-Men Origins:Wolverine and X-Men the Last Stand as
stand alone films.For those who like certain things In them they still have them on
DVD or Blu-Ray to enjoy but are not part of official film contunity.X-Men First Class,
X-Men Originseadpool,The Wolverine,X4 are all only connected to X-Men and X2.

While some may argue on the Last Stand being In contunity the fact remains James Mcavoy has confirmed Xavier will be crippled In First Class which makes the opening scene of Last Stand non canon which also affects the enitre Last Stand story.

Inless you would make Deadpool be set entirely before Deadpool joins Team X It Is virtually Impossible to do a Deadpool film In Contunity with Wolverine

 

[The Morningstar]

Deadpool needs to be reboot because even though he could be salvaged from that train wreck that was Wolverine... he shouldn't be.

His origin, with the Cancer, Vanessa Carlysle, Ajax etc are ESSENTIAL to the character.

You can't just have him mysteriously become Deadpool then get on with it. Wolverine Origins did exactly that. Plus, it showed Wade Wilson as a *****e bag who enjoyed killing innocent villagers. That isn't Wade Wilson. Before he became Deadpool he had a strict moral code, then he lost that after he went insane from all the experiments they did on him. That is all part of the tragedy.

Deadpool exists in the same universe as the X-Men, according to the script. But it doesn't tie in to any of the actual movies. What's the problem?

X-Men Origins: Wolverine should be completely ignored, by the ALL other X-Men movies.

 

[Lord]

Actually, during the comentaries they said that deadpool discovered he had cancer and that's why they made him Weapon XI.
Look, i don't have a problem with XO: W not being part of the movies universe but i think there should be a story featuring that part of wolverines life, if it was up to me there should be 2 wolverine movies set before The Wolverine.
One should be about his time as weapon X and the other should adapt what is probably my favourite wolverine story, The Origin.
The thing is, normal viewers will probably get confused, there one actor for 2 diferent Deadpools, unfortunatelly Bryan won't do his own X-3 and x4, he'll make x-4 and x-5 probably based on days of future past, Last Stad will probably remain in the timeline but some things may be retconed, this X-men movie universe seems more and more like the dc universe, changing every time there's an infinite crisis, with stories happening but contradicting the new ones.

 

[The Morningstar]

Who cares what they said in commentaries or interviews? That's irrelevent. It wasn't in the movie.

And i don't think people will be confused, if they stick to Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick's script.

Spoiler

It makes it as though in the Deadpool movies universe, Wolverine Origins was a movie or something. And Deadpool wasn't very happy about it...

If they keep that scene in, and they really should do, it won't confuse audiences. In fact most of them will probably be in 100% agreement with Deadpools sentiments.

 

[Lord]

Who cares what they said in commentaries or interviews? That's irrelevent. It wasn't in the movie.

And i don't think people will be confused, if they stick to Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick's script.

Spoiler

It makes it as though in the Deadpool movies universe, Wolverine Origins was a movie or something. And Deadpool wasn't very happy about it...

If they keep that scene in, and they really should do, it won't confuse audiences. In fact most of them will probably be in 100% agreement with Deadpools sentiments.

Unfortunatelly those who went to the cinema to see it were expecting an action film for their entertainment, and they got that, so they will probably be 50% in agreement.

 

[The Morningstar]

The action was **** too though. Apart from, ironically enough, the scenes involving either Wade Wilson or "Deadpool".

Wolverine and Creed's fights were too short and sooooo unimaginative. The Blob boxing fight was laughable. The Gambit fight? Sooooo bad.

Wolverine Origins failed as an action movie and as a deep character study.

 

[Lord]

The action was **** too though. Apart from, ironically enough, the scenes involving either Wade Wilson or "Deadpool".

Wolverine and Creed's fights were too short and sooooo unimaginative. The Blob boxing fight was laughable. The Gambit fight? Sooooo bad.

Wolverine Origins failed as an action movie and as a deep character study.

I know but apart from us, comic book geeks, cinefiles, critcs, and people who understand cinema and storyline, many didn't notice and liked it, why do you think that the DVDs still sell? As i said, more or less 50% of those who saw it liked it.

 

[The Morningstar]

The DVDs still sell?!?! WOW!

No i get what you are saying, but i mean, even if you just take it as a mindless action movie, it fails. It has some of the most boring and pedestrian action in a superhero movie, ever.

 

[Lord]

The DVDs still sell?!?! WOW!

No i get what you are saying, but i mean, even if you just take it as a mindless action movie, it fails. It has some of the most boring and pedestrian action in a superhero movie, ever.

True, but don't forget of Superman IV.
Now i really think they should have divided the story into 2 movies:
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men Origins: Weapon X

 

[McSqueeb]

If you are caring about the character of Wolverine over Deadpool, then this Deadpool film is not being made for you (that is if it is somewhat being made for the fans).

It's important that the audience sees what Wade went through, the tragic events in his life that shaped him, why he is the way he is. The audience - especially those with no knowledge of the character - can empathize with him this way.

And there is a fourth wall breaking moment which involves a

Spoiler

Weapon XI action figure

from XMO:W.

Besides, it's just better to have a fresh take on the character instead of continuing from Assmen Origins. That would just suck. Indubitably.

 

[Lord]

Then Deadpool will probably be set in a different continuity than the x-men movies no?

 

[DarkSovereignty]

nope, its just following the trend set up by first class of pretending that wolverine never happened...and I'm perfectly fine with that.

 

[ContinuityOCD]

no it shouldn't

 

[The Morningstar]

Yes it should.

 

[CelticPredator]

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

 

[The Morningstar]

Pretty much. hahaha

 

[DarkSovereignty]

and I have to say, I kind of don't want ryan reynolds as deadpool. he has this constant sarcasm that permeates every word our of his mouth. and when I read deadpool, I don't here sarcasm, yeah he makes wisecracks, but there's a sincerity to what he says, if that makes any sense, like he doesn't really do double talk, he just says every word that comes to his twisted mind.

 

[The Morningstar]

I want Woody Harrellson as Deadpool.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

I've got to admit, I honestly think Neil Patrick Harris would be perfect. get a stunt man like ray park in the suit, then have neil patrick harris do the voice.

 

[CelticPredator]

All I hear is Ryan. And I will always hear Ryan.

Because dispite his ****** movies, that guy makes me laugh/

 

[DarkSovereignty]

meh, but to each their own. I don't hate him, I just find him too snarky. I always heard sort of this twisted naivete to deadpool, like there's no sarcasm to what he's saying, because he doesn't bullsh** like that, he just says whatever come to his mind, and he honestly believes it.