Sequels Who and How should a Deadpool Movie be Made?

[mr. peasant]

In the absence of any interesting info for discussion, I thought I'd dredge up an old topic; the much desired but unfortunately still very hypothetical Deadpool spinoff. It's a known fact that it's very difficult to make a movie, particularly an action movie with only one character. So I ask you this: Aside from Deadpool, what other characters from the comics should be featured in this fantasy Deadpool spin-off?

Personally, I'm in support of the 'classic' cast of Weasel and Blind Al. However, Siryn wouldn't really work since she's too tied to the X-Men, not to mention she's already been cast as a young girl in the previous X-Men movies. The massive age difference between her and Ryan Reynolds is bound to leave viewers feeling grossed out, and not in the way Deadpool's supposed to. Also, I'd love it if they could somehow manage to rope Taskmaster and Outlaw in too.

Have an opinion? Ideas about how to break the fourth wall? Discuss!

 

[Neto Magnus]

This really belongs in the Sequels thread.

 

[odiin]

This really belongs in the Sequels thread.

Not really, Mr. Backseat Mod.

 

[Neto Magnus]

Not really, Mr. Backseat Mod.

 

[Lebeau]

I think they need to explore the mercenary angle. I'd like the mercenary fraternity worked into it...a bit of Taskmaster and Outlaw like you said, maybe someone setting Deadpool up for a fall. I always liked that underneath all the jokes and threats, Deadpool was just running a business, it's a different angle that I think can be played on for a film.

My favourite Deadpool angle was always the origins...the application of the regenerative ability and his falling in love with Death...that was a real tragic love story that played out really well, not sure if that's one that you'd wanna put in a film that for the most would be a comedy considering Reynolds is in the main role.

Interesting though how many ways they can run with this one...

 

[mr. peasant]

Heh, nobody seems to have written anything interesting. Oh well, guess I'll give it a whirl and see what comes of it:

Okay, the way I see it, the movie would start (assuming he's killed in the Wolverine movie) with Deadpool clawing his way out of his grave, having healed. However, it took him twenty years to do so (hence, the movie takes place in the present) and things have changed. To start off, he returns to his apartment only to find a blind old lady (Blind Al) living there instead. Neither able to kill her nor force her out (she outsmarts him in every way), Deadpool decides to just move in, figuring it would only be a matter of time before she keels over and he'd then have the place to himself.

Fast forward a few years and Deadpool has reestablished himself in the mercenary world, setting up contacts and a usual arms dealer (Weasel). It's here that the main plot of the movie develops.

It's revealed that the leader of a triad known as the Four Winds was assassinated and the family heirlooms stolen. Thus, the organization is out for revenge and placed a reward for whomever brings the heads of the assassin, his employer along with the stolen heirlooms. The catch? The identity of the assassin is unknown. As a result, it's open season with every mercenary out to kill every other mercenary in hopes of cashing in on the reward (not to mention in self defense too). Naturally, Deadpool is interested as well (you could throw a comedic situation here where he gets the call just as some unknown merc tries to take him out of the game early).

As the story progresses, he comes into contact with two other 'major players' (Taskmaster and Outlaw), both of whom are potential candidates as being the assassin in question and each having one of the missing heirlooms. Naturallly, they all start fighting each other as well as teaming up to take on others/recover other heirlooms as well as backstab each other every now and again (think PoTC). During this whole battle royale, they could easily throw in just about any mercenaries they want (Domino, Six Pack, Black Tom, third stringers like Paladin and Diamondback) as well as organizations (AIM would make good fodder for the countless explosions).

At the end, it's revealed that the Four Winds themselves orchestrated the whole thing in an attempt to remove all mercenaries in the business, allowing their assassins to gain a monopoly of the scene. After the climactic face-off, Deadpool, Taskmaster and Outlaw are the last ones standing.

 

[Lebeau]

Yeah, not a bad idea peasant. If the Four Winds are used though, I'd love to see the scene worked in in Deadpool #60ish (can't remember the exact issue) where he falls through a glass ceiling, screams 'Hey, can someone get me a comfy pillow!' before randomly firing at what he thinks is his target, before landing and realising he accidentally killed all four gang leaders in one hit. With glass everywhere. Falling from the sky.

That is THE penultimate Deadpool scene and I'd love to see that on film.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Dude I'd love a Deadpool movie, he's awesome. I'm glad he's going to have a big part in the Wolverine movie.

 

[Navy Orleans]

Agent X anyone?

 

[Lebeau]

I've been thinking about this lately...but I'm not sure which way I'd go with it. I like the idea of an adaptation of Deadpool/Death Annual 1998. His origins, his love story with Death and maybe even his revenge killing on Ajax afterwards. That could work really well, it would keep Ryan Reynolds out of a mask for the most of it (which will appease the studio) and leaves plenty of room for drama, tragedy, action and comedy.

However, it means Deadpool himself isn't really all that prevalent. I really want to see him in his outfit cutting loose through a room full of guards wisecracking all the way through it. They still haven't really made a superhero movie with a wisecrackin hero beatin his way through a crowd. Also, I have a feelin Deadpool's origins will be altered int he Wolverine movie anyway...so maybe trying to retell them will be a waste of time and confusing.

So I guess maybe the things that were mentioned before with his place in the mercenary world could be used for the film. They could use the assassin take out angle that peasant mentioned, or (Lasseters?) will from the Deadpool Ltd series to set up a battle between mercenaries. This could lead to a run in with Gambit's rival assassin guild to which he's connected by his love of one of theirs. That way we can write in a Gambit VS Deadpool battle which would be wicked.

I dunno, I'm just reaching here. To be honest, with the rights for Wolverine/X-Men/Deadpool/Magneto all residing with the same studio, I can't see Deadpool being made for a long time. They're more likely to bring back the X-Men franchise or develop the already written Magneto movie before they start looking at B-Listers like 'Pool.

 

[iamlegend]

Honestly... for a Deadpool film to work they'd have to play down the whole Marvel/Superhero bit as much as possible. Yeah, give him his powers, but make it more of a gritty action flick than a Superhero film.

Don't try to be in the middle and wind up like the Punisher. That was a stain upon humanity.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Honestly I don't think he should have a movie. Not that he isn't cool or a good character I just don't think its really something Marvel should have done. Imo, they should make movies on the big titles, and no offense or anything but Deadpool isn't necessarily top quality.
I've also heard rumour of other characters the are getting their own movie that don't even deserve it. Making movies for inadequate characters is a waste of time and money imo.

 

[iamlegend]

Honestly I don't think he should have a movie. Not that he isn't cool or a good character I just don't think its really something Marvel should have done. Imo, they should make movies on the big titles, and no offense or anything but Deadpool isn't necessarily top quality.
I've also heard rumour of other characters the are getting their own movie that don't even deserve it. Making movies for inadequate characters is a waste of time and money imo.

I essentially agree.

Marvel should have learned, after watching some of their lesser characters bomb at the box office, that some properties just can't tread water in Hollywood.

I mean, they're going to do an Ant-Man movie.

ANT-MAN.

How could that possibly do well?

 

[mr. peasant]

Honestly I don't think he should have a movie. Not that he isn't cool or a good character I just don't think its really something Marvel should have done. Imo, they should make movies on the big titles, and no offense or anything but Deadpool isn't necessarily top quality.

I disagree with the mentality that only the big titles can succeed as movies. Using that logic, the original Blade movie shouldn't have been made and would have failed, especially since it was before the entire 'comic book superhero' craze. Sure, one can say that it was the vampiric setting that sold it to viewers, but that's really the thing, isn't it? Whether a major title or not, it simply boils down to finding something that will attract viewers to give the movie a chance. Of course, the big, more recognizable titles have an advantage there (as more people would try it just on name recognition alone) but that's nowhere near the sole determinant.

In the case of Deadpool, the sheer action value, humor and tongue-in-cheek referencing of its comic book setting could potentially draw viewers.

 

[Lebeau]

The fact that they've signed Reynolds to the role will mean they'll want to run with Deadpool. Reynolds turned down the Flash to play 'Pool. He'd have to be expecting a solo movie, otherwise I can't imagine him signing on in preference to the Flash for a cameo appearance.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

I disagree with the mentality that only the big titles can succeed as movies. Using that logic, the original Blade movie shouldn't have been made and would have failed, especially since it was before the entire 'comic book superhero' craze. Sure, one can say that it was the vampiric setting that sold it to viewers, but that's really the thing, isn't it? Whether a major title or not, it simply boils down to finding something that will attract viewers to give the movie a chance. Of course, the big, more recognizable titles have an advantage there (as more people would try it just on name recognition alone) but that's nowhere near the sole determinant.

In the case of Deadpool, the sheer action value, humor and tongue-in-cheek referencing of its comic book setting could potentially draw viewers.

I'm not saying it wouldnt be successful, heck it might be a blockbuster hit, but still giving a movie for just any character is a waste of time and money. For god sake their making an Ant-Man movie!! ANT-MAN!? The stupidest character since ever is going to get a movie? Why should a poorly developed and overall pathetic superhero get a movie, when there are buttloads of actually well developed characters that deserve it? Its a slap in the face to the creators of those great characters!

 

[mr. peasant]

I'm not saying it wouldnt be successful, heck it might be a blockbuster hit, but still giving a movie for just any character is a waste of time and money. For god sake their making an Ant-Man movie!! ANT-MAN!? The stupidest character since ever is going to get a movie? Why should a poorly developed and overall pathetic superhero get a movie, when there are buttloads of actually well developed characters that deserve it? Its a slap in the face to the creators of those great characters!

If it's a blockbuster hit, it's not a waste of money (for the producers) and if viewers enjoy it, it's neither a waste of time nor money (for the audience).

 

[donaldthe3rd]

If it's a blockbuster hit, it's not a waste of money (for the producers) and if viewers enjoy it, it's neither a waste of time nor money (for the audience).

True, but regardless, Deadpool still doesn't deserve his own movie.

 

[mr. peasant]

Then, it's a good thing you're not in charge of the green light because I really want one.

But in all seriousness, whether 'deserved' or not, a Deadpool movie has the potential to be really fun if done right (meaning, not entirely serious and possibly even a spoof of the superhero movie genre). To say that he shouldn't have a movie just because he isn't an A-list name is silly. If that was the case, Blade shouldn't have been made either, and that would have been a pity.

 

[Lebeau]

Doesn't matter whether he's an A-Lister or not...if they can put together a good script, a good cast and make a great movie, then who cares if he's Deadpool, Ant-Man, Moon Knight or Spider-Woman? Marvel has a lot of very good properties, Deadpool would be one of the more unique characters they have to offer...absolutely insane, funny, torn and sits within a bizarre world. They should go with it if they can make it work.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Hey man DeadPool is a great character and does deserve a movie of his own, he's awesome his ways.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Hey man DeadPool is a great character and does deserve a movie of his own, he's awesome his ways.

I'm only thinking of the Marvel movie franchise. Theres already been enough of the X-men movies, Spider-man movies (which dont look like their gonna end soon), Blade movies and the other one shot movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, etc. I just don't want to see the movies ruin the comic book industry, by coming out with so many movies, sequels and prequels that the comics that they have been adapted from will be forgotten or discarded because of the films influence on the reader.
Your right Deadpool is a good character, but hes not great by any means. The way I see it is either they can take their chances and put him on screen and hope for the best, or keep him the way he is now, as a cameo, and leave it at that. Because look at what will be coming out in just a few years? Thor, ANT-MAN! Punisher, Wolverine, Magneto, Captain America, Ironman 2, Avengers.
Now dont get me wrong I'm a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggeeeeee fan of Captain America and Wolverine and very fond of the others (except for Ironman), but just because their great characters doesn't neccessarily mean their good on screen. Like what if they actually make a Deadpool movie, and when you go to see it, it sucks balls! Ruins the characters forever and puts people off from reading the real deal. I don't want people to think I'm Anti-Deadpool-Movie, because I'm not. I just don't want to see the movie negatively influence the comic book industry. And not only a Deadpool movie, but all of these crazy ass movies their handing out nowadays. Like I said before Antman should never appear on screen, and that my friends is truly a waste of time and money.

 

[taekwondogirl]

I think a good judge of whether something should be a movie or not is the fervor of the fans. I can't say I know anyone who actually reads Ant-man comics, and I wasn't entirely aware there existed any with him as his own main character. On the other hand, I know several people who really enjoy the Deadpool character.

When it comes down to it, you can't just say "All b list comic characters should not have their own movie". It should be based off of several things, like if the character's compelling and it can translate well to the movie screen. For heaven's sake, they made an Underdog movie.

 

[Wade_Wilson]

a deadpool movie would be awesome, i have waited so long for this moment.

 

[bullets]

They need to make it soon before reynolds gets tied up with too many projects.