Should Marvel continue with the established franchise's storylines?

[Sentry2k2]

Now that Marvel has the rights back to their characters, should they continue the storylines of already established franchises such as X-Men, Spider-Man, and fantastic Four, or do a requel like they are doing for the Incredible Hulk? I say they should honor the past movies, espeically for X-Men and Spider-Man. The only thing different about the X-Men franchise is I would put them in actual superhero costumes. The black leather was a response to Matrix, and we've seen that superhero costumes can work.

 

[Chewy]

Now that Marvel has the rights back to their characters, should they continue the storylines of already established franchises such as X-Men, Spider-Man, and fantastic Four, or do a requel like they are doing for the Incredible Hulk? I say they should honor the past movies, espeically for X-Men and Spider-Man. The only thing different about the X-Men franchise is I would put them in actual superhero costumes. The black leather was a response to Matrix, and we've seen that superhero costumes can work.

Marvel owns the rights to none of the above.

 

[Storm22]

X-Men in their superhero/spandex costumes would look stupid aswell! Part of the appeal of the X-Men movies was their grounded in reality feel, Wolverine running around in yellow spandex would have just looked out of place.

 

[Majik1387]

I disagree.

There's a way of making the costumes looking plausible onscreen without them looking stupid.

 

[Storm22]

I suppose you could find a happy medium. I generally liked the black leather uniforms though, especially Storm's, Wolverine's and Jean's. The coloured piping could have been more prominent in Cyclop's and Rogue's though.

 

[Sawyer]

IMO, the John Cassaday designs for Astonishing X-Men could be adapted without looking stupid.

 

[Storm22]

Hmm, not too sure about Cyclops and Wolverine, I still think they'd look fairly foolish in those costumes.

 

[BMM]

Now that Marvel has the rights back to their characters, should they continue the storylines of already established franchises such as X-Men, Spider-Man, and fantastic Four, or do a requel like they are doing for the Incredible Hulk? I say they should honor the past movies, espeically for X-Men and Spider-Man. The only thing different about the X-Men franchise is I would put them in actual superhero costumes. The black leather was a response to Matrix, and we've seen that superhero costumes can work.

As ChewySpider said, Marvel doesn't hold the rights to any of those characters. If Marvel was to retrieve those rights, however, I think the X-Men would be the easiest of the three franchises to reboot simply because a team origin story has yet to really be told.

I suppose you could find a happy medium. I generally liked the black leather uniforms though, especially Storm's, Wolverine's and Jean's. The coloured piping could have been more prominent in Cyclop's and Rogue's though.

Storm's uniform is probably one of the more faithful adaptations of a comic book character's trademark look.

 

[tamron]

Marvel doesn't have all the rights, but I'll address the premise of the TS regardless.

I hate to say it, but I probably would honor X-Men and Spider-Man's storylines. I hate to say it because I feel like both franchise could be rebotted and present their stories in a much better and comic faithful manner. However, the franchises were so successful, to reboot in spite of could harm, rather than help, a future offering.

Blade I think they could continue, just with a new lead (Michael Jai White).

Fantastic Four and Ghost Rider need full-fledged reboots.

Daredevil, you might be able to go the requel route, as the original was a box office hit, though critically panned.

 

[odiin]

As it has been said before: Marvel doesn't have those right, but hypothetically I would probably just reboot all of them. For one, I'm personally kind of tired of those interpretations of the characters, by the time Marvel got the rights back We would already have 5 movies a piece for both X-Men and Spider-Man (assuming Magneto and Spider-Man 4 and 5 are released). I'd like to see a fresh take on the characters that would maybe focus on some of the aspects that were absent from the old series'. Plus we would get redos on some of the characters that may not have been portrayed well before (Green Goblin's Costume and Mary-Jane, I'm looking at you.)

Secondly, it might get a little too messy to try to fit all those franchises into the Marvel Universe continuity, and would be a lot easier if they just started from scratch going in .

 

[Remy LeBeau X3]

^ agreed, although it would be nice to honor the storylines and continue, it would only work if they get the same actors and actresses, but that is highly unlikely, therefore a reboot would be the most likely route for them to take. the only "honoring" i could see them doing (which is a long stretch and pure chance) would be putting in Jackman and McGuire into an Avengers sequel along with the current cast to beef up the names, but that would practically be impossible i know, but kinda cool if it could/would happen.

 

[Lebeau]

I don't get everyone's obsession with reboots. Commercially successful franchises like SM and X-Men can be continued without the need for a do-over. The origin movies have been done, now forget them and move on with the story...adapt Days of Future Past, introduce Kraven and the Lizard...move on and continue to succeed...there really is no need to reboot either franchise.

I could see Spider-Man recast for the next set of films as far as Parker and MJ go (cos I really feel as though Dunst and Maguire won't pull it off for the next film) but there's no need to start the franchise over. The characters are established and the story is ready to continue.

Reboot's only need to be used if absolutely necessary...Punisher needed to start over in New York. I think they made the right move. They could have continued with Hulk, but the reboot is a good way to distance itself from the Ang Lee film which doesn't have a lot of fans. It would be detrimental to separate themselves from the following that the X-Men and Spider-Man have.

 

[Sawyer]

I don't get everyone's obsession with reboots. Commercially successful franchises like SM and X-Men can be continued without the need for a do-over. The origin movies have been done, now forget them and move on with the story...adapt Days of Future Past, introduce Kraven and the Lizard...move on and continue to succeed...there really is no need to reboot either franchise.

I could see Spider-Man recast for the next set of films as far as Parker and MJ go (cos I really feel as though Dunst and Maguire won't pull it off for the next film) but there's no need to start the franchise over. The characters are established and the story is ready to continue.

Reboot's only need to be used if absolutely necessary...Punisher needed to start over in New York. I think they made the right move. They could have continued with Hulk, but the reboot is a good way to distance itself from the Ang Lee film which doesn't have a lot of fans. It would be detrimental to separate themselves from the following that the X-Men and Spider-Man have.

I agree on X-Men and Spidey. They dont need reboots. However, I feel that Fantastic 4 could use one. I just wasnt feeling the first two.

 

[bullets]

I think the Xmen and Spiderman franchises did well enough and that a reboot isn't necessary or likely for either of them . I would be awesome if Marvel did have complete control over the xmen franchise and made three more and went with the apocalypse as a villian , also a rehash of the jean grey saga with cyclops being ressurected. I'm also hoping that Spiderman improves.

 

[Random490]

I'd prefer a simple revamp for a case like Spider-man, maybe change everything with cast directors, with out re going over the continuity. You can definitely revamp Spidey to be more like th comics, just don't mention the what happen in the first three and don't step on them, change the style and everything else if you want. Why reboot when you can revamp, have an X-men movie with new costumes, it's not hard.

I really hate how hollywood has a trend of remakes and has actually remade a movie a few years after the original (Hulk) and I really want to avoid this becoming a reoccuring thing with comic movies.

 

[Lauryn2000]

Spiderman and X-Men don't need a remake,re-do or do-over.I think they have accomplished the movie path for Marvel and they have ran their course.
I think The Last Stand and Spider-Man 3 was enuff for most fans to say.."Thank Goodness this is it for the X-Men".And as for Spider Man 3 you just left confused.....plus Wolverine (especially Hugh Jackson) and Beast would look well "strange" as big as they are in yellow X-Men jumpsuits/costumes similiar to the comic book.,

I'd hate for them(Marvel) to do,what DC did with The Return Of Superman....ugh

As far as The Hulk....Marvel executives felt the movie (Ang Lee's) should have done better and had to fix it...Hulk is up there with Spider-Man as comic book character well known.If anything they should go re-do that crappy Daredevil and Elektra...and get a younger actor to play Ghost Rider and do-over that movie.Nicolas Cage cannot play every character that's put before him......nuff said.

 

[Random490]

As far as The Hulk....Marvel executives felt the movie (Ang Lee's) should have done better and had to fix it...Hulk is up there with Spider-Man as comic book character well known.If anything they should go re-do that crappy Daredevil and Elektra...and get a younger actor to play Ghost Rider and do-over that movie.Nicolas Cage cannot play every character that's put before him......nuff said.

I do not want a do-over to be a common occurance, Superman Returns did a good thing with movie forward with a story rather than retell the same old one (I do NOT want to get into an argument whteher you think it was a good movie, I'm just saying it's better for the film industry to move forward)

Take the new Hulk movie, it moves forward with a plot but retcons Ang Lee's film with a new origin (just an opening clip retelling the new version). There's no need to do that, and since this movie will be successful hollywood will keep doing this until the movies themselves becomes meaningless. now I hated ang lee's hulk, daredevil, and electra. be there are ways to revamp as a new and better movie without having a do-over.

Change directors, casts, style, but no need to redo an origin, just act as if the earlier film is in continuity and move forward with a better future.

Revamp>redo

 

[Lauryn2000]

Totally agree...plus with Spidey and X-Men getting long in the tooth,Marvel has to rely on the lesser known (except for us comic book nerds) characters to continue.Marvel is going in the right direction,only if DC/Warner Bros would wake up---I can't believe all the characters in the DC Universe we've only seen Batman and Superman on the big screen......

 

[FaT_tONle]

I'd like Marvel to do requels for all these franchises once the rights revert back to them.

 

[Clobberin' Time]

I disagree.

There's a way of making the costumes looking plausible onscreen without them looking stupid.

I disagree.

There is no way of making the costumes look plausible onscreen, they would look stupid!

 

[cerealkiller182]

Fantastic Four and Ghost Rider need full-fledged reboots.

I hate that Chiklis, Evans, and even Grufford are really good for their roles but if they reboot it, they prolly wouldnt be asked back. In addition, Alba seems the most excited of the whole cast for another FF movie which kinda sucks. I could probably put up with her though considering MacMahon was the weakest link the that film series

 

[Majik1387]

I disagree.

There is no way of making the costumes look plausible onscreen, they would look stupid!

Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Iron Man all managed to do so without the costumes looking stupid. So, I'd have to say you're wrong about the costumes looking stupid.

And don't try to argue movie quality to me right now, thats not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to costumes only.

Some costumes were modified, but not beyond the point of recognition and having a comic book look. It can be done for the X-Men as well.

 

[Lauryn2000]

Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Iron Man all managed to do so without the costumes looking stupid. So, I'd have to say you're wrong about the costumes looking stupid.

And don't try to argue movie quality to me right now, thats not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to costumes only.

Some costumes were modified, but not beyond the point of recognition and having a comic book look. It can be done for the X-Men as well.

The Elektra costume from Daredevil was great.
I know with the Elektra movie,the costume is the one in the comic book,when she becomes an assassin but I dunno?
Maybe it was the actress,that didn't give the costume it's just reward....

 

[Evil Twin]

I do not want a do-over to be a common occurance, Superman Returns did a good thing with movie forward with a story rather than retell the same old one (I do NOT want to get into an argument whteher you think it was a good movie, I'm just saying it's better for the film industry to move forward)

Take the new Hulk movie, it moves forward with a plot but retcons Ang Lee's film with a new origin (just an opening clip retelling the new version). There's no need to do that, and since this movie will be successful hollywood will keep doing this until the movies themselves becomes meaningless. now I hated ang lee's hulk, daredevil, and electra. be there are ways to revamp as a new and better movie without having a do-over.

Change directors, casts, style, but no need to redo an origin, just act as if the earlier film is in continuity and move forward with a better future.

Revamp>redo

Yeah, I agree with this. There's little reason to backtrack and redo a story that's already been done on the screen in the near past. That's a commercial dead end and perhaps a creative one as well. I don't think much of the FF films, but the origin presented and the basic personalities are at least relatively close to the comic version. The problem with the film was related to execution rather than basic ideas. I'm sure people would rather see a FF movie that doesn't stink rather than a FF movie that backtracks on an already told story that doesn't stink.

Whatever missed opportunities there were are in the past. The key is to move forward.

 

[Clobberin' Time]

Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Iron Man all managed to do so without the costumes looking stupid. So, I'd have to say you're wrong about the costumes looking stupid.

And don't try to argue movie quality to me right now, thats not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to costumes only.

Some costumes were modified, but not beyond the point of recognition and having a comic book look. It can be done for the X-Men as well.

The X-Men (particularly) Wolverine's yellow spandex will not work on screen, that is my opinion and not arguement as you put it, incidentally, where have I argued about 'movie quality'?

The other examples are great, and I couldn't agree more.

Once more, WOLVERINE IN YELLOW SPANDEX WILL NOT WORK ON SCREEN, that is my point!