Should Punisher get a TV show

[Lilbaz]

I wish that was the lineup for the first set of series. I've thought that AKA, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist could have been combined into one show, saving the two other Netflix show spots for Punisher and Blade, or Blade and Cloak/Dagger, or Blade and Moon Knight (with Punisher a background character among all the shows until he gets his own). But Blade and Punisher are musts at some point soon.

Like that they are doing LC, JJ and IF. Because really I don't know anything about them. For some reason with DC characters it doesn't make me interested but with MCU I really want to know. Especially after the success of DD.

 

[Docker2.0]

I wish that was the lineup for the first set of series. I've thought that AKA, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist could have been combined into one show, saving the two other Netflix show spots for Punisher and Blade, or Blade and Cloak/Dagger, or Blade and Moon Knight (with Punisher a background character among all the shows until he gets his own). But Blade and Punisher are musts at some point soon.

My gawd man! That sounds like pawn to me!!

 

[Docker2.0]

Evidently Marvel's Netflix series has phases as well.

Spoiler

http://screenrant.com/daredevil-netflix-marvel-superhero-tv-movies/2/

 

[Lilbaz]

Evidently Marvel's Netflix series has phases as well.

Spoiler

http://screenrant.com/daredevil-netflix-marvel-superhero-tv-movies/2/

No offence to you posting it (appreciated) but I will believe that Punisher etc... are Netflix phase 2, when we have official confirmation.

 

[Docker2.0]

No offence to you posting it (appreciated) but I will believe that Punisher etc... are Netflix phase 2, when we have official confirmation.

No, I agree! I wish Marvel will have the characters that had movies like the Punisher, Blade and Ghost Rider to have movies.

 

[chamber-music]

I would rather see a Midnight Sons movie with Doctor Strange, Blade, Ghost Rider, Werewolf By Night, ect.

Daughters Of The Dragon, Moon Knight, The Punisher and either Cloak & Dagger or Shang Chi I would like to see as Netflix phase 2 shows.

 

[Picard Stewart]

We're def getting him via Netflix. As others have said hopefully he makes his start somewhere prior. I'd introduce him in Defenders. Start the mini with DD trying to bring him in and then The Hand invades so their feud has to be put on hold but Castle ends up helping the Defenders fight The Hand in the end.

Its a shame Frank Grillo is already playing Crossbones. The guy IS Frank Castle. The Purge: Anarchy was pretty much an unofficial Punisher film.

A Punisher Netflix show starring Grillo would blow my mind.

 

[Art Freak]

Evidently Marvel's Netflix series has phases as well.

Spoiler

http://screenrant.com/daredevil-netflix-marvel-superhero-tv-movies/2/

While I'm sure that the series do have phases and would relish Moon Knight, Punisher, Blade and the like joining the fold, that article you linked is editorial.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Phase 1: Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist

Phase 2: Punisher, Blade, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider

Marvel Knights yo

 

[ObakeTora]

I don't mind him being an ex cop depending on how they do it.

I think you can have him be a cop who also is a recent veteran coming back and returning to his job as a cop.

I don't think that would be bad.

Well it would be bad because over and over frank has mentioned that he could never be a cop because he will have to answer to someone over his personal war. Being a cop goes against everything Frank is about; punishment. Frank has a respect for honor and duty he could never work in a situation whetre his job is to wear a uniform to be a peace keeper. Granted there was a What If story where Frank became a cop and maybe it's just my personal thing but the level of corruption Frank would have to endure would be too much to bear for him. How can you have a war like Frank's with Internal Affairs constantly breathing down your neck? A cop or an ex one for that matter would only limit his range. Remember I said ex-cop? If he had to impersonate a cop I wouldn't mind but for the life of me I just want to see one more good Vietnam story, or tactics learned from that horrible experience in American History used on some of these punks who make life difficult for people. I hope they stay true to the source material.

 

[Dasher10]

Absolutely. This should be Marvel's TV lineup lineup.

Netflix - Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher, Blade, Elektra, Moon Knight

ABC - Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter, She-Hulk, Secret Warriors (the rumored AOS spin-off), Hawkeye

ABC Family - Runaways, Avengers Academy

Disney Channel - Power Pack

And Ghost Rider is too expensive to work on TV. He may require an R rating to do well but I don't feel like Netflix is the answer thanks to all the CGI needed. I'd release a Ghost Rider film sometime in the first three months of the year when there's less competition. There's no way to involve all the angels and demons of Ghost Rider on a TV budget. It simply doesn't work.

And Black Widow should also get her own film. Her adventures involve traveling across the world which is simply too expensive for a TV show.

 

[Docker2.0]

While I'm sure that the series do have phases and would relish Moon Knight, Punisher, Blade and the like joining the fold, that article you linked is editorial.

Dang it man! Can't I at least believe it will happen?!?

 

[Art Freak]

Fair enough! I hated myself right after I posted. No one likes being the turd in the punchbowl. Bring 'em on!

 

[ralphuniverse]

G'day,

Not sure that makes much sense. Punisher is a crime fighter, the rest have more supernatural element. (although with Moonknight its sometimes debatable if its magic or his delusions)

What I like to see is Daughters of The Dragon and Punisher. The daughters can join the Defenders giving them a nice diverse 3 boys , 3 girls team.

Blade and the magic heroes can appear after the Dr Strange movie which is the MCU introduction to the supernatural.

The writers can have the Punisher shoot the &^%$ out of anyone they want.

ta

Ralph

Phase 1: Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist

Phase 2: Punisher, Blade, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider

Marvel Knights yo

 

[spider-neil]

Punisher should be a character that shows up in other people's shows rather than having his own. Punisher is loaner (well, maybe except for Micro) and shows need supporting characters. Punisher would effectively show up, gun the person down and then disappear into the night. Very hard to base a series on that. Even someone like Blade has far more scope for a series.

 

[MadVillainy]

Punisher should be a character that shows up in other people's shows rather than having his own. Punisher is loaner (well, maybe except for Micro) and shows need supporting characters. Punisher would effectively show up, gun the person down and then disappear into the night. Very hard to base a series on that. Even someone like Blade has far more scope for a series.

Disagree.

I mean you could make up more supporting characters if need be. ANd also you can include Joan (who was in the 04 movie), Kathryn from the MAX series, and the other dudes who were includes in the 04 movie with Joan. You could also add Rosario Dawson for an episode or two. I doubt Marvel cast and actress as big as her and only wanted to use her for 1, maybe 2, series

I mean if you look at DD, there aren't that many major supporting characters that aren't villains. Foggy, Karen, Ulrich. Primarily it's a show about 4-6 people if you include Kingpin or Rosario Dawson's character. The rest are smaller roles or lesser villains. And you can make those up if need be

ANd I thnik Punisher is more than just. Gun down villains go home. I think you can have him try and just go the spray and pray, beserker method and have him fail and show that he has to use his tactical knowledge to do his shooting and he just cant attack head on.

The can for sure make a whole Punisher show

 

[DrCosmic]

Punisher should be a character that shows up in other people's shows rather than having his own. Punisher is loaner (well, maybe except for Micro) and shows need supporting characters. Punisher would effectively show up, gun the person down and then disappear into the night. Very hard to base a series on that. Even someone like Blade has far more scope for a series.

I tend to agree with this. I was looking into some of Ennis' stuff, and I think the power of the character as a solo act comes from an incredible amount of viscerality: gore and sex, while keeping the character tortured internally, and indeed, separate from the Marvel Universe at large. I'm not sure I'd be interested in a show like that, where its more about internal monologue than relationships, where the spectacle isn't so much what he's doing and can do, but the violent, explosive gory results of what it really means to put a bullet in someone's head. Some people would love that. Think about Man on Fire, or Equalizer, or Taken, as a series. Pretty much that. Big bad guy, work your way up the chain by creatively killing and torturing criminals.

For me, it sounds a bit too much like what Netflix's Daredevil is, since we don't have Daredevil doing the courtroom thing so much in the MCU. Having small amounts of that as he guest stars would be most interesting to me.

 

[Parker Wayne]

Punisher should be a character that shows up in other people's shows rather than having his own. Punisher is loaner (well, maybe except for Micro) and shows need supporting characters. Punisher would effectively show up, gun the person down and then disappear into the night. Very hard to base a series on that. Even someone like Blade has far more scope for a series.

I heavily disagree with this notion. You can definitely have supporting characters in the Punisher and still succeed. Also from what DrCosmic said, it sounds a lot like the early seasons of Dexter. I don't think keeping the character separate from the rest of the universe is much of a problem. Daredevil is essentially that for now, and a Punisher series will most likely be the same.

G'day,

Not sure that makes much sense. Punisher is a crime fighter, the rest have more supernatural element. (although with Moonknight its sometimes debatable if its magic or his delusions)

What I like to see is Daughters of The Dragon and Punisher. The daughters can join the Defenders giving them a nice diverse 3 boys , 3 girls team.

Don't you mean 4 guys, 3 women then?

I'd love to see Daughters of the Dragon. I think when Phase 2 comes, Daughters of the Dragon should be a series to be considered among all the male-lead Marvel shows.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I think they should take a page from DC's book.

Debut Punisher in Daredevil season 2, stick him in a few episodes, and then give him his own show.

 

[chamber-music]

The Punisher has had plenty of supporting characters through the years Micro, Shotgun (J.R. Walker), Yorkie Mitchell, Reiss, ect. He would team up with a Mossad agent or a cop or a CIA agent or a former soldier or someone with similar goals to take down crime often in the comics.

What doesn't work is trying to turn The Punisher from an anti-hero into a superhero.

In the War Journal comics Frank didn't just murder and torture criminals he would go undercover and get information on criminal organisations before dismantling them. Also originally, Frank still had a live and let live attitude with certain criminals, counting on the influence he had on them to make them change their ways.

As I've said before, the best way into The Punisher is through understanding his fractured psychology which hasn't really been explored much in any of the movies but has frequently explored in the comics.

What sort of man Frank Castle is? What is it that drives him to wage a one man war on organised crime? The reason why some of the other adaptations didn't work were because they don't scratch the surface of the character. Netflix offers a longer format to discover who Frank Castle is beyond some one note criminal hunter.

The Punisher: Year One would make a good adaptation for the first season.

 

[DeGenerate10]

How about Thomas Jane as Frank Castle again?

 

[MadVillainy]

The Punisher has had plenty of supporting characters through the years Micro, Shotgun (J.R. Walker), Yorkie Mitchell, Reiss, ect. He would team up with a Mossad agent or a cop or a CIA agent or a former soldier or someone with similar goals to take down crime often in the comics.

What doesn't work is trying to turn The Punisher from an anti-hero into a superhero.

In the War Journal comics Frank didn't just murder and torture criminals he would go undercover and get information on criminal organisations before dismantling them. Also originally, Frank still had a live and let live attitude with certain criminals, counting on the influence he had on them to make them change their ways.

As I've said before, the best way into The Punisher is through understanding his fractured psychology which hasn't really been explored much in any of the movies but has frequently explored in the comics.

What sort of man Frank Castle is? What is it that drives him to wage a one man war on organised crime? The reason why some of the other adaptations didn't work were because they don't scratch the surface of the character. Netflix offers a longer format to discover who Frank Castle is beyond some one note criminal hunter.

The Punisher: Year One would make a good adaptation for the first season.

All of this

How about Thomas Jane as Frank Castle again?

 

[Destructus86]

Punisher should be a character that shows up in other people's shows rather than having his own. Punisher is loaner (well, maybe except for Micro) and shows need supporting characters. Punisher would effectively show up, gun the person down and then disappear into the night. Very hard to base a series on that. Even someone like Blade has far more scope for a series.

I was just thinking about this this morning! He's a great character if he's playing off other characters but as for having his own series? eh...he's just not that interesting on his own.

 

[SlamAdams]

I think Frank should be an antagonist. To either Daredevil or Captain America. Or maybe even The Defenders. Like he's the reason why The Defenders get together. They've already tried to get him going 3 times, maybe change up how they are delivering him.

 

[psylockolussus]

I want to see Blade, The Punisher, Elektra and Ghost Rider get a Netflix treatment.