The Dark Knight should the joker use his trademark weapons in the sequel?

[ghost113]

thats easy the big hammer, the smiley grenades, and of course his boom revolver, oh and the venom gas.

 

[The Overlord]

Those weapons are too fanciful for Nolan's universe. I'd like to see a regular gun, a machete and perhaps a chainsaw.

Bah, anyone can kill people with guns and knives, the Joker is supposed to a creative genius who kills people with cards and joy buzzers. Take that away and he is just another psychopathic thug.

 

[Mr.E.Nygma]

^^Indeed. Gordon himself specified that he has an aptitude in thetricality like Bats

 

[marvelisawesome]

i think joker should be like super evil joker. LIKe SUPER EVIL!!!! cuz thats how the movies should be!


super evil wepons

 

[mad_harleyq]

what about the exploding marbles?

 

[trustyside-kick]

what about the exploding marbles?

Loved those in the cartoon but probably too cartoony for the film.

 

[StorminNorman]

Joker should use gasses, toy-styled weapons, what not. His melee weapon of course should be a crowbar.

 

[mad_harleyq]

Loved those in the cartoon but probably too cartoony for the film.

actually i think it could work,on their first encounter he drops them to stop batman and he castually walks over them and they explode, i think it would be funny, a little nod to real fans

 

[kame-sennin]

Those weapons are too fanciful for Nolan's universe. I'd like to see a regular gun, a machete and perhaps a chainsaw.

Is that really the Joker thought I mean, realism is cool, but what's the point if you use it to strip away what makes the character unique? Most importantly, the Joker is insane. What isn't realistic when dealing with a mental patient. I think it makes perfect sense for a madman to wear a purple suit and use laughing gas and exploding toys. He's lost his mind, and he finds it all amusing. Remeber, the Joker isn't some serial killer who stalks people in the night. He is a detached, attention seeking killer who wants to entertain whilst he terrorises. If you take away the showman aspect, he becomes a Punisher villain.

 

[StorminNorman]

I think the Joker should always be too fanciful for reality - thats what makes him great.

 

[trustyside-kick]

I think the Joker should always be too fanciful for reality - thats what makes him great.

Ya, while I do not mind Nolan taking a more realistic route some people in these forums go too far saying "but that is not realistic" and crap. Hello? We are talking about comic books...that is fantasy crap if you want to say it that way.

 

[Rexi]

Those weapons are too fanciful for Nolan's universe. I'd like to see a regular gun, a machete and perhaps a chainsaw.

i agree with this. what gordon could have meant was that witnesses described him in a clown-esque suit. that is theatrical enough. in nolans uni' most joker gadgets would be out of place. how would he gain the knowledge of planting bombs in toys? how did he gain access to and aquire the knowlede needed for chemical terrorism?

the joker gas could really only work if it was connected to the fear gas. give joker his bang! gun and some melee weapons, a chainsaw would be great IMO. I want to be afraid of joker in the way i am afraid of fugitive serial killers. i really dont want a burton-esque unrealistic joker.

 

[Rexi]

Ya, while I do not mind Nolan taking a more realistic route some people in these forums go too far saying "but that is not realistic" and crap. Hello? We are talking about comic books...that is fantasy crap if you want to say it that way.

BB isnt your typical comic book movie. nolan has set some boundaries and i want him to stick them.

 

[7Hells]

BB isnt your typical comic book movie. nolan has set some boundaries and i want him to stick them.

He has also set some nice out of boundaries with Batman's toys. Sure he explains them all but...really.

Joker has to have the laughing gas. Yes he does...

 

[trustyside-kick]

how would he gain the knowledge of planting bombs in toys? how did he gain access to and aquire the knowlede needed for chemical terrorism?

the joker gas could really only work if it was connected to the fear gas

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Joker is very intelligent in chemistry (as in before he fell into the chemicals)...that is how. And no...Joker gas would not only work if it was connected to the fear gas....please tell me how it would only work that way because that sounds bizarre and stupid.

I know the boundaries Nolan has set (and I love what he has done) but there are some things you cannot take away from the character when it makes them who they are.

 

[Cycloptis]

My only problem with using gas is that it was already emphasized in BB...so using it again as a predominant tool would seem just a little redundant.

 

[TheJuice]

For Nolan's Joker, his weapons got to be a little practical

Like a 357 Magnum

 

[Malone]

I like the razor-sharp cards, the grenades, and, of course, the flower. The smilex gas seems like a must for the Joker, but I don't know. We already saw them use the fear gas in Batman Begins. I would also like to see the Joker use tools (like sledge hammers, knives, crow bars, and guns) with lethal force.

 

[Rexi]

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Joker is very intelligent in chemistry (as in before he fell into the chemicals)...that is how. And no...Joker gas would not only work if it was connected to the fear gas....please tell me how it would only work that way because that sounds bizarre and stupid.

I know the boundaries Nolan has set (and I love what he has done) but there are some things you cannot take away from the character when it makes them who they are.

a joker intelligent in chemistry could work, but it would be a little strange to have yet ANOTHER lethal themed gas for gotham to deal with. and i really dont want joker to fall into chemicals that make him look like a clown. that's just stupid and makes no sense. how about he bleaches his own skin, wears lipstick and smiles a lot beacause he is insane, not stuck with it.

 

[trustyside-kick]

a joker intelligent in chemistry could work, but it would be a little strange to have yet ANOTHER lethal themed gas for gotham to deal with. and i really dont want joker to fall into chemicals that make him look like a clown. that's just stupid and makes no sense. how about he bleaches his own skin, wears lipstick and smiles a lot beacause he is insane, not stuck with it.

No...are you even a Batman fan? How could you want them to change so many things? That is too much change for a character. Even for the sake of realism that is going way too far...thank goodness Nolan did not go that far with the whole realism in Batman Begins.

 

[Rexi]

No...are you even a Batman fan? How could you want them to change so many things? That is too much change for a character. Even for the sake of realism that is going way too far...thank goodness Nolan did not go that far with the whole realism in Batman Begins.

too much change for a character? i dont remember the lazerus pit being in BB with ras al ghoul as the villian, so why should smilex be in TDK? scarecrow wasnt exactly the criminal mastermind he was made out to be in the comics either. if you are going to be such a stickler to the comics, at least be consistent. you probably would have said the same thing about anyone who liked the tumbler before BB because it was such a departure from the comics...

 

[trustyside-kick]

too much change for a character? i dont remember the lazerus pit being in BB with ras al ghoul as the villian, so why should smilex be in TDK? scarecrow wasnt exactly the criminal mastermind he was made out to be in the comics either. if you are going to be such a stickler to the comics, at least be consistent. you probably would have said the same thing about anyone who liked the tumbler before BB because it was such a departure from the comics...

No the changes he made with Ra's and Scarecrow did not change who they were...Ra's was still the ecological/international terrorist with the huge plan and 'planetary' view of things. Scarecrow was not changed much either.

The changes you suggested for the Joker would be like him just being some regular serial killer (when he clearly is not just some killer)...heck how about instead they just have Zsaaz bleach his skin, wear lipstick, and smile alot? Don't answer that...that would be dumb.

You cannot take out certain elements that make the character.

 

[Rexi]

what makes the character for me arent his crazy gadgets or his laughing gas, its joker's psychotic conversations with batman that show how twisted and insane he really is. i guess what makes joker to you is different than what makes him to me, and that is fine. i just dont think it would ruin the character to take away some of the stuff that really wouldnt fit too well in nolan's universe.

 

[Rynan]

what makes the character for me arent his crazy gadgets or his laughing gas, its joker's psychotic conversations with batman that show how twisted and insane he really is. i guess what makes joker to you is different than what makes him to me, and that is fine. i just dont think it would ruin the character to take away some of the stuff that really wouldnt fit too well in nolan's universe.

Well...your are wrong.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Well...your are wrong.

Thank you for backing me up on that.

Rexi...the thing is what you are suggesting would just make Joker some normal serial killer...like that example I used of Zsaaz that I was joking about. Now Zsaaz is not just some serial killer...but he is nothing like the Joker.