Should they release improved version of the trilogy because of the new movie?

[bhayes]

just curious.

the new wolverine movie is gonna be great but visually introduces continuity errors.

some are minor others are major. for example stryker no longer has a southern accent. or the way wolverine escapes as portrayed in the nightmare sequence is now different. and ofcouse there is saberooth.

back before x2 came out. there was talk of going back and shooting new footage for x-men 1 so that it would blend better with xmen 2. and then they would have released it on dvd for the x men 1.5 but for whatever reason it never happened.

and the guy who did the FX for x-men 1 admitted that he disliked how they turned out.

and i think bryan singer said that he disliked the score for the first movie and that they were gonna redo the score.

and now that we have wolverine orgins there are continuity errors visually.

so should they go back and polish up the visual FX to be more on level with x2 and x3?

also for x men 1 & 2 they could use footage from the orgins wolverine movie for the nightmare flashback sequences or blend footage.

also they could use footage from x3 of beast and put it in x2. remember the scene where the biggoted security guard is looking at the tv and he sees hank mccoy on the television maybe somehow they could fix that so that he's seeing kelsey grammer in his beast makeup on the tv instead of the human looking guy.

i love the first film but i always felt that the visual FX was lacking in x1 in certain places.

like the part where saberooth battles wolverine and wolverine does a 360 spin. it looked too CGI'ED.

since we live in an age where we see multiple dvd version of classic movies and since Visual FX are now more cutting edge than back in 1999 should they go back?

 

[RaZaTrOn]

I have to say X-men (1,2,3) has always been quite low on my favourite Marvel films. I would really like them to be forgotten and for a new line of films to start in line with the origins.

In X-men wouldn't Rogue have gotten Wolverines bone claws when she touched him?

 

[Dugath]

Give it a few years and they will just remake/reboot it.

I would have really liked to have seen what Marvel could have done with X-Men, when if ever.. do they get the Rights back?

 

[Spider-Vader]

Maybe Wolverine can be seen as a re-boot. No one has the same actor except Wolverine, as long as he's up to it Jackman should play Wolverine IMO.

 

[BMM]

No, they should not redo portions of the previous movies because of the current production's inability to maintain continuity. That goes for all of the X-Men movies. I like X-Men and X2 fine the way they are. For instance, I do not need to see Kelsey Grammer's goofy Beast on television in X2--it doesn't fit. I don't need to see a revised version of Wolverine's escape from Stryker's facility when the previous versions are perfectly fine and more appropriate to their respective films and probably more accurate and grimacing than the version displayed in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

As for the effects, there is no need to redo them. X-Men (2000) is almost 10 years old. That's the way it works. Again, I like the films the way they are and don't need them retouched as if this was the Star Wars franchise.

 

[bhayes]

I have to say X-men (1,2,3) has always been quite low on my favourite Marvel films. I would really like them to be forgotten and for a new line of films to start in line with the origins.

In X-men wouldn't Rogue have gotten Wolverines bone claws when she touched him?

good points. honestly since this is science fiction i'm sure there could be a explanation for her not getting the bone claws.

well you could look at it like this. in the orgins movie. wolverine battles sabertooth. and sabertooth breaks and or rips out his bone claws. the weapon x experiment changes wolverine's DNA around so that he grows out new metal ones as a side-affect. so now his mutantation/dna is all scrambled up and changed so that his only power is healing. SInce stryker can manipulate DNA and what not thus making him the ultimate weapon. she only can get his mutant healing not necessarily his bones.

but that's a good point you made. i think all sci-fi stories have some sort of flaw or error in its mythology but hey that's the movies.

i can understand what you're saying. when x1 came out i was excited to see my favorite comic and cartoon show become a live movie.

but i always felt the FX sucked really bad though at the time in 2001 and i disliked the changes. however because of the way x2 and x3 turned out i find that i actually like the more realistic interpretation of the x universe.

so now the new wolverine film is everything that x1 should have been but ontop of that it VISUALLY does not gel with x1 at all.

infact the new movie visually is more of a prequel to x2 & x3 than x1

personally i think sabertooth will get defeated in this film and return in a sequel enhanced by stryker looking taller and more like the tyler mane version only cooler.

but they really have to think of a creative way of doing a memory wipe with cyclops,storm,wolverine and saberooth and so on. becuase now everything is just jumbled up and makes no sense at all as far as continuity goes.

in x2 stryker only has a very slight southern accent not a full blown southern accent.

So hopefully danny houston has a slight southern accent just for continuity sake thus far stryker sounds like he doesn't have a southern accent all. but we have to wait and see.

here is what i would do.

for x1 i would redo all 100% of the visual effects CGI to put them on level with the other 2 films and orgins. ya know just start from scratch.

for example i would redo the scene when professor x takes logan down to see the undergound parts of the mansion and make it so that there appears to be 2 x-jets in the hangar not just 1 jet. so we would see the black bard from x2 alongside a better rendering of the mini-jet they use in x1.

this would visually explain why the x-jet for x-men-1 looks COMPLETELY different inside (the cockpit) and outside (blue-ish) from what we see in x2 & x3 also i would make the jet look cooler and more detailed not the CGI mess we got in x1.

2.the scene where professor x uses cerebro i would redo it so that it looks the way it did in x2 with red and white lights.

3. also some of the scenes we see in the deleted outtakes from x1 i would put back into the movie like "have you seen real kombat boy!" line that wolverine says to scott summers. it would fit better now since we KNOW that scott encouters wolverine and saberooth in orgins in some form.

4. the weapon x nightmare scenes i would remove what we saw in x1 and i would blend footage from the nightmare scenes of x2 and orgins.

5. and the same story with x2 i would take footage from orgins and blend it with the new footage they shot for x2 for the nightmare sequences of the weapon x in x2.

6. i would redo all of mystique's morphing sequences and make it look better. in x2 & x3 it just looked and more real wheras in x1 it looked crappy everytime should would change into another person.

7. the part where wolverine stabs storm in the stomach and storm then turns into mystique. i always felt that then sequence looked just very crappy as far as CGI goes.

7. the part where wolverine battles sabertooth and wolverine does a 360 spin with his claws on the wing tip of the stature of liberty. they CGI'd hugh jackmans body. it looks so darn crappy and bad. it looks like they turned him into a action figure because his body morphs out of proportion.

8. all of the parts where rougue touches somebody and thier faces get really vein-up. it look too CGI'ed. in x2 they do a better job of this so i would fix that.

9.or the sequence where kelly falls into the ocean. but we never really see
his mutant form. i would film a new sequence where we see senator kelly swimming thru the ocean underwater in full mutant form.

10. and finally the scene where storm does "do you know what happens to a toad when struck by lightening" when her hair blows up you can see halle berry's hair plugs. i mean it was already enough that her her looked fake but seeing the hair-plugs looked pretty bad.

i would make it so that her entire body even her hair is glowing with electrical sparks thus covering up her hairline plugs.


but basically all of the 100% of the CGI of any kind x-men 1 was just really CRAPTACULAR. i'm actually surprised that alot of x-fans forgave the poor CGI in the first film.

in x2 everything is fixed and improved on. even bryan singer admitted that x2 was the quality and type of film he wanted to make the first time.

and i remember reading patrick stewart saying that x-men 1 was merely an extended trailer for x2.

i personally think that we were so greatful to have gotten a live x film that we didn't really care back then.

infact as i said i think the guy who did the FX for X1 admitted that he did not like how his visual FX work turned out for x1 because of time and money restraints.

and the only thing i would fix for x2 would be the scene where we see hank mccoy on the television. instead of having a human looking guy we saw i would find some footage from x3 and try to somehow make it so that we are seeing Kelsey Grammer in his beast makeup.

this way visually 99% of the visual continuity errors are corrected and i honestly think that it would sell pretty good on dvd in a collectors edition pack or something.

with wolverine orgins and x men1-3.

 

[bhayes]

Give it a few years and they will just remake/reboot it.

I would have really liked to have seen what Marvel could have done with X-Men, when if ever.. do they get the Rights back?

how could they reboot it?

word is that they are going to do a x-men first class movie series and magneto orgin movie. and possibly a gambit and or deadpool movie.

so i'm thinking we will see these movies over a 10 year period so by 2020 we will have had a a wolverine trilogy and x men first class movie a magneto movie and possiblt a gambit and or deadpool movie.

so basically they are going to do a bunch of prequels that serve as a backstory to the relationships in x1.

which is why think they should go back and redo the FX in x1 they way i mentioned so that visually its more on level with the other films.

i mean they are probably gonna use the same actor to play scott summers in the x men first class movie series.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Nah, the movies are fine as is, and there aren't that many continuity errors.

There is nothing in this film indicating that Wolverine ever meets Cyclops and Storm. Therefore, there's no need to fix that.

There is a nod in X-Men to a rivalry between Sabretooth and Wolverine when Sabretooth steals Wolverine's dog tags. Not everything has to be spoken.

The hint of accent between different actors and a 15 year time span isn't that big of a deal.

The FX just change with time.

I don't see any major continuity errors, nor do I see any reason to redo the older movies.

 

[X-Maniac]

I'm all for extended, alternative editions if we see new footage, if deleted scenes are inserted, and if various technical things are enhanced.

The ideal chance for that would be the Blu-ray releases out next month.

At the very least, an extended X3 is due - and I'm hoping that is done for Blu-ray. If not, I shall be storming the Fox building with a pile of rotten fruit to hurl at the execs.

 

[cronosred]

If they can find a way to replace Mane with Schreiber then by all means do it, but I think the most we could hope for is extended cuts of the films which I'm actually surprised they haven't done by now.

 

[X-Maniac]

If they can find a way to replace Mane with Schreiber then by all means do it, but I think the most we could hope for is extended cuts of the films which I'm actually surprised they haven't done by now.

I think replacing an actor with another actor is probably asking far too much.

But using existing material from the cutting room floor should be no problem. And tidying up a few things (like getting rid of the bee landing on Jackman in X3 and covering up the metal ice-skates on Iceman).

 

[Microchip]

WHEN does a bee land on Jackman? I don't remember that!

 

[dsfjr1190]

No, they shouldn't release an "improved" version of the trilogy. They should have stuck with the continuity they made instead of changing it in the first place.

 

[ChaoticPsylocke]

I think replacing an actor with another actor is probably asking far too much.

But using existing material from the cutting room floor should be no problem. And tidying up a few things (like getting rid of the bee landing on Jackman in X3 and covering up the metal ice-skates on Iceman).

the metal ice skates bother the crap out of me! omg!

everytime i watch it i cringe! the bee doesnt really bother me much...

 

[X-Maniac]

Yes, it was lazy not to fix the ice-skates in post-production, as Iceman clearly made the skate blades out of ice...then we see metal going round on the pond. Grrrrr.

 

[malgal3000]

personally, i love x2 and x1 and x3 were decent for me enough, but i always felt like all of them could be soooo much better, its just seems like there all missing some like special ingredient!

i think my main problem isn't the characters they chose to portray but how they portrayed them. Pyro should have been Australian, colossus Russian, etc, etc. Rogue should have been tougher, or edgier or something. I do love the actors they chose for them but the portrayal (which is mostly a script problem) wasn't as accurate as it should be.

I do enjoy watching the films, but i just want something more, something better

 

[Timstuff]

Given the "quality" of the Wolverine movie, I don't think Fox's sense of perfection is accurate enough to contemplate making "improved" versions of existing films.

 

[ObakeTora]

I really wish Fox would lose the rights to all Marvel franchises.

 

[TNC9852002]

just curious.

the new wolverine movie is gonna be great but visually introduces continuity errors.

some are minor others are major. for example stryker no longer has a southern accent. or the way wolverine escapes as portrayed in the nightmare sequence is now different. and ofcouse there is saberooth.

back before x2 came out. there was talk of going back and shooting new footage for x-men 1 so that it would blend better with xmen 2. and then they would have released it on dvd for the x men 1.5 but for whatever reason it never happened.

and the guy who did the FX for x-men 1 admitted that he disliked how they turned out.

and i think bryan singer said that he disliked the score for the first movie and that they were gonna redo the score.

and now that we have wolverine orgins there are continuity errors visually.

so should they go back and polish up the visual FX to be more on level with x2 and x3?

also for x men 1 & 2 they could use footage from the orgins wolverine movie for the nightmare flashback sequences or blend footage.

also they could use footage from x3 of beast and put it in x2. remember the scene where the biggoted security guard is looking at the tv and he sees hank mccoy on the television maybe somehow they could fix that so that he's seeing kelsey grammer in his beast makeup on the tv instead of the human looking guy.

i love the first film but i always felt that the visual FX was lacking in x1 in certain places.

like the part where saberooth battles wolverine and wolverine does a 360 spin. it looked too CGI'ED.

since we live in an age where we see multiple dvd version of classic movies and since Visual FX are now more cutting edge than back in 1999 should they go back?

lol. No way.

The X-Men movies were a success and all, but you're talking about putting a lot of manpower and time into what I consider, a few minor squabbles. So, not only is it unfeasible to do, imo, but it's just not worth the trouble if you ask me.

If you've seen the interviews with Gavin Hood, you'll see that he wanted this movie to not be in exact continuity with the other films, but wanted to create some sort of original take on Wolverine's origins, only using the comics and the original movies as a backdrop, but not necessarily as a "bible". Sure, absolute continuity would be great, but hey, at least it seems like most of the important aspects are intact and a lot of people are actually warming up to some of the changes.

I think it just came down to Gavin and his writers feeling like they didn't want to bog down and have to conform to a few of the minor elements (i.e., Stryker's accent) if it wasn't going to impact the story or affect the impact of the film.

 

[Nevaratoiel]

Naw... to be short, I don't want a long post when in the end I'm saying: I don't want a reboot. Just make those damn character spinoffs and maybe an X4!!

 

[Fanticon]

the short answer: no

 

[bullets]

short answer: why bother