Snyder's Superman -Box Office- Thread

[KRIM]

LOLWUT

Superman's powers are like the all-star team in one package. There's no one more deserving of the high budget. If you're satisfied with how he's been portrayed in past iterations, more power to you. I think Snyder is about to blow your mind if that's the case. As for me, I'm expecting to finally be in awe of Superman.

 

[BigThor]

I believe that was the budget w/o all the past attempts included. Even then, it's still too high. Considering the fact that Superman's powers are pretty straight forward and have been compitently shown even in TV shows with TV budgets there isn't any reason his films should cost more than Batmans. Spidey, Iron Man, Hulk, etc. all require extra CGI and such due to the nature of those characters which means higher budgets but Superman shouldn't need nearly their level of CGI.

Agreed, Superman uses his powers in "useful" ways rather than being "flashy". His powers can be accurately portrayed even with a fairly reasonable budget (150 million).

He's not "destructive" like Hulk and he doesn't wear armored suits like Iron Man, so there's no need for an extremely large budget for the first film.

LOLWUT

Superman's powers are like the all-star team in one package. There's no one more deserving of the high budget. If you're satisfied with how he's been portrayed in past iterations, more power to you. I think Snyder is about to blow your mind if that's the case. As for me, I'm expecting to finally be in awe of Superman.

Trust me, if they can make a "Thor" and a "Green Lantern" movie with 150 million dollars then they can most certain make a Superman film with the same amount.

I used those two films as examples because they take place partly on other planets (GL), and even other dimensions (Thor). Not to mention they both have some pretty extravagant powers as well.

 

[KRIM]

Let's wait until those films are actually released to gauge how well they handled the effects. GL is the only other hero out of DCs main arsenal that rivals or even exceeds Superman in the effects department. It's really up to the director to make an epic vision come to life. I haven't seen a superhero movie that has taken full advantage of their potential.

 

[BigThor]

Let's wait until those films are actually released to gauge how well they handled the effects. GL is the only other hero out of DCs main arsenal that rivals or even exceeds Superman in the effects department. It's really up to the director to make an epic vision come to life. I haven't seen a superhero movie that has taken full advantage of their potential.

I would agree with you, but I've seen enough to say that the effects in both of those films with be pretty good.

 

[Astrodust]

I think if Superman is traveling abroad they might require a few exotic shoots. I'd say a budget of 175 million seems fair. WB can allocate more if they like how things are coming along.

 

[BigThor]

I think if Superman is traveling abroad they might require a few exotic shoots. I'd say a budget of 175 million seems fair. WB can allocate more if they like how things are coming along.

I think this Superman film will be pretty "earth bound" since it is the first in the series. I'd say 150-170 million would suffice, 175 mill wouldn't be too far fetchet either.

 

[kedrell]

LOLWUT

Superman's powers are like the all-star team in one package. There's no one more deserving of the high budget. If you're satisfied with how he's been portrayed in past iterations, more power to you. I think Snyder is about to blow your mind if that's the case. As for me, I'm expecting to finally be in awe of Superman.

I think my point was that for all Superman's powers, none of them are really beyond the ability to do them with practical sfx. Spider-Man's super agility can't be done that way, nor Iron Man's armor nor Hulk's...well just existing since no one is his size and shape. All those require CGI. Superman(while CGI can help) is much more plain or vanilla in the powers dept., despite having so many of them. None of his powers are exotic.

This is why Superman has been so successful at being translated into TV shows(more successful than any other superhero in the TV medium). His powers are do-able even on that budget. Spider-man's live action TV show was abysmal largely because they couldn't do justice to his powers with practical FX. They never even figured out how to make Iron Man work on such a small budget(nor how to translate the spandex looking armor while still having anyone take it seriously as armor), and the Hulk had to get nerfed supremely in order to make his show possible.

 

[bgshw44]

if you recall, SR was budgeted at $184 million, with singer going over budget. nolan and snyder are well known for hitting targets.

 

[Lighthouse]

I think having Nolan's name attached to it is going to help bring in a lot of people. I still talk to people who think that Tim Burton directed "The Nightmare Before Christmas".

 

[bgshw44]

I think having Nolan's name attached to it is going to help bring in a lot of people. I still talk to people who think that Tim Burton directed "The Nightmare Before Christmas".

agree 100%. with my friends who i would say are the general audience a movie needs to be very successful, once i say nolan is involved it becomes a must see movie.

 

[GreenKToo]

Just guessing of course, but I think it will have around a 170 mill budget. With Ursa being announced it probably means Krypton will be shown a good bit, maybe more than we first thought. Maybe in flashbacks? maybe not.
I got a feeling snyder will show Krypton looking closer to coruscant than the north pole, and that will take some serious $change.
Thats not even taking into account all the big action scenes we're bound to get, ie, superfights, citywide damage and destruction.

 

[kedrell]

I'd sure like a new interpretation of what Krypton is/was like.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'd sure like a new interpretation of what Krypton is/was like.

I'm hoping so..I love the animated series Krypton, so if we can get something along those lines i'll be happy..

 

[KRIM]

I think my point was that for all Superman's powers, none of them are really beyond the ability to do them with practical sfx. Spider-Man's super agility can't be done that way, nor Iron Man's armor nor Hulk's...well just existing since no one is his size and shape. All those require CGI. Superman(while CGI can help) is much more plain or vanilla in the powers dept., despite having so many of them. None of his powers are exotic.

This is why Superman has been so successful at being translated into TV shows(more successful than any other superhero in the TV medium). His powers are do-able even on that budget. Spider-man's live action TV show was abysmal largely because they couldn't do justice to his powers with practical FX. They never even figured out how to make Iron Man work on such a small budget(nor how to translate the spandex looking armor while still having anyone take it seriously as armor), and the Hulk had to get nerfed supremely in order to make his show possible.

I respectfully disagree. It may be more feasible to attempt on a tv budget, but looking at those same shows their attempts are also clearly limited because of that budget. I like to think that the more money is pumped into the vfx, the more 'oomph!' they can get out of the powers.

Superman should be one of the most visually impressive films out because of the variety of powers he utilizes. Lacking the vision, you get something vanilla like Singer's interpretation. Lacking money, you get L&C and Smallville. I've yet to see a product that has the luxury of both. That's where my excitement lies.

 

[kedrell]

I respectfully disagree. It may be more feasible to attempt on a tv budget, but looking at those same shows their attempts are also clearly limited because of that budget. I like to think that the more money is pumped into the vfx, the more 'oomph!' they can get out of the powers.

Superman should be one of the most visually impressive films out because of the variety of powers he utilizes. Lacking the vision, you get something vanilla like Singer's interpretation. Lacking money, you get L&C and Smallville. I've yet to see a product that has the luxury of both. That's where my excitement lies.

That was essentially my point. Due to the nature of his powers, it's more feasable to do them practically; as opposed to heroes with more exotic powers/equipment. This same rule applies to Batman as well. He's quite feasable in a practical sfx way. This probably had a lot to do with them being the first ones to get TV shows & movies. Can you imagine if they had tried to do a Spider-man film before the era of CGI? It never would have worked and that's probably the main reason we never got a 1980's Spidey film.

 

[KRIM]

I understand your point but you're pandering to the lowers common denominator here. I wouldn't want to look at it from the point of view of "what's the cheapest we can get it to look right", rather "what's the best way to set the bar to new heights".

 

[kedrell]

Oh I'm all for spending enough $ to make it good. But at the same time, being financially responsible with your budget is just as much a good thing and I hope Snyder does that. All I was pointing out was that there's no reason to blow too huge a budget to make a good Superman film.

 

[Zack Snyder]

What are the latest guesses on the budget for this film?

 

[Asgard]

I would guess 170-200 Million.