Comics So how's Amazing Spider-man?

[Havok83]

So whats the verdict on the ASM 3 times a month? I dropped the book right before it started this and havent followed up on it at all. Has it been a success? Do people like it or do you prefer the old format?

 

[iloveclones]

Love it. Hasn't been this good in years.

 

[Styleshift]

So whats the verdict on the ASM 3 times a month? I dropped the book right before it started this and havent followed up on it at all. Has it been a success? Do people like it or do you prefer the old format?

To answer you question correctly. No it hasn't been doing as well as expected, but it is doing moderately well. at least if they want to keep the new status quo.

The big problem is,
It's split the fan base very much down the middle. Fans are still fussing about the events that took place in OMD.

I personally find the stories Mediocre but there are some gems here and there such as the flash thompson war hero story.

The main problem I find with these stories is that there hasn't been much progression story wise and there are quite a few new cookie cutter characters. Plus they keep teasing at events that we know nothing about.

Remember the Jackpot character that was overhyped? Don't buy that annual that reveals her identity. trust me.

Give it a try though. You may like it. It's not terrible stuff but it's not the stuff legends are made out of either.

 

[farmernudie]

this is a tough loaded question...lol...

Obviously...YOU need to try it out and see what YOU think...that's all that matters right there is your own preference.

The numbers aren't stellar..but that depends on who you ask and how you do the math and what you compare it to.

Some arcs are selling mroe than others.

Amazing is pretty much ALL arcs now. WHich i do not like.

The main thing is...if you can get over the fact they changed history and that this world is created by a deal between Pete and the devil.

IF none of that bothers you....you may very well like it.

Then there is also the fact that MJ and Pete "never got married" in this reality. And the entire planet is brainwashed (brain-damaged).

Other than that, they are really trying hard to sell this new spidey...throwing big name creative teams at it. Art is often good...at least.

As styleshift said..this new direction is VERY DEVISIVE.

Basically, It is a LOVE it or HATE it direction...pretty much.

 

[Themanofbat]

Love it. Hasn't been this good in years.

I agree...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I agree...

I 100% agree!

 

[WolfCypher]

I pop in once and a while just for specific stories. NWTD for the Venom, Anti-Venom, and Green Goblin. The Harry Osborne story, the upcoming "What really happened during Peter/MJ's wedding", whatever. I'm not committed to it. I haven't been a regular ASM reader since...before the clone saga?! Really? Damn!

 

[Galactus]

So whats the verdict on the ASM 3 times a month? I dropped the book right before it started this and havent followed up on it at all. Has it been a success? Do people like it or do you prefer the old format?

Well, the sales numbers haven't changed that much. They goes and up and down, depending on whether a story is a hyped up event or not. As for the quality... I'm not reading Spider-Man, but looking at the reviews the quality also goes up and down (like in any other era) Honestly, some issues haven't got any better reviews than Howard Mackie usually got. All in all this new era looks like your typical run-of-the-mill Spider-Man. Nothing really new, and certainly nothing sensational, which is why I had enough of it. I suppose it can be enjoyable for people who are less demanding than me, though

 

[Styleshift]

See what I mean now Havok83?

Very different yet similar posts between the fan base. Split right down the middle.

Pro-Side = I love it! Best Spider-man I've read in years.

Anti-Side = It's generally mediocre. Complete waste of time of a reboot. They wrote a terrible story to reach this??!

This is what the real result of One More Day is.

In a recent interview Marc Guggenheim even brought up the fact that Retailers are even complaining about Brand New Day.

 

[Havok83]

Thanks for all the responses!

 

[arachnid-guy]

If they put Marcos Martin and Mark Waid as regular contributers...then, I'm afraid, I'm in.

Get the Paper Doll storyline by Slott/Martin and the latest Train Crash issues by Waid/Martin.

I mainly read them for the artwork, really.

 

[farmernudie]

Yeh...Guggs admits he gets "millions of complaints" from retailers STILL.

That there speaks volumes.

Truly.

 

[imdaly]

I'm absolutely loving it.

Amazing is pretty much ALL arcs now. WHich i do not like.

When was the last time Amazing wasn't all arcs??

 

[Miken Ayers]

The only good thing to come out of BND is those guys in white vans that scope out playgrounds can't use Amazing Spider-Man comics to get kids to come closer. Oh, and Anti Venom is rad. It's always a good idea to scrape the bottom of the barrell and clone a character with notoriety.

 

[Hobgoblin]

I really cant say that I've been reading it. I picked up NWTD because it had Norman and Harry but felt underwhelmed. I admit, the Flash in Iraq story was pretty good. I'm looking forward to the Ana Kravinoff story (I didnt care for the art or the general feel of the book, but I'm a Kraven fan) and the explanation of Harry's return. Besides that, I just havent been interested.

The only good thing to come out of BND is those guys in white vans that scope out playgrounds can't use Amazing Spider-Man comics to get kids to come closer. Oh, and Anti Venom is rad. It's always a good idea to scrape the bottom of the barrell and clone a character with notoriety.

Ditto Menace.

 

[farmernudie]

IMDALY: When was the last time Amazing wasn't all arcs??

Amazing is purely and only "ARCS" now...it is an "ARC" comic.

It has never purely been that before.

OUtside of spidey stuff, i am not a big fan of arcs, and feel (their over-use) has brought down comcis as a whole.

I'm a 12 issues and an annual old school type, i suppose. Same creative team, single vision....etc...

 

[ragingdemon155]

How's Amazing Spider-man doing?

The title has been inconsistent as hell. More bad, then Good. So, yea. Flash Thompson issue was easily the highlight of the run. The rest has been pretty mediocre at best.

 

[Themanofbat]

Amazing is purely and only "ARCS" now...it is an "ARC" comic.

It has never purely been that before.

That's true... before the 90's and a few odd issues during JMS' run, those weren't arcs... but around 90% of the Spidey books have been arcs now for over 10 years...

And they are NOT "arc" comics now... that's a false statement.

The Flash Thompson issue was not part of an arc, the Hammerhead 2 parter was not an "arc", the more recent Punisher Team Up was not an "arc"...

Other than the first 4 months (which could have been labelled as "arcs"), it's been more of a continual flow... and coming from someone who claims they've been reading Spidey since Day One, that should appeal to you, because even in the middle of these 2 or 3 parters are aspects of upcoming stories (surely you remember the sub-plot... or is that a faint memory?)...

Make your stance all you want, but calling ASM a monthly "arc" book now is just plain lying, or ignorance of the facts, or whatever you want to call it...

Have a nice day...

 

[DACrowe]

Love it. Hasn't been this good in years.

You have to take in the irony of this though. Marvel (under Quesada's er..visionary leadership) INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGED their books for the last four years into mediocrity to full blown ****, so that the readership would be more inclined to accept this new direction.

Joey Q: "Look guys, the books are better because we aren't trying to piss on them anymore so you accept a BS deux ex machina storyline. But aren't these new '70s-knock-off stories just swell?!"

With that said the writing has gone up. But when they are actually not trying to take a **** on the fans, that isn't exactly a hard goal to accomplish. But the tone of the character is very stale. They have basically set the character into permanent (at least while Quesada is in charge) stasis mode. He is now Marvel's Charlie Brown, Mickey Mouse, etc. Don't expect any deep stories and complex character development or exploration in the near future. In the days of The Dark Knight, Marvel is content making Spidey nothing more than a brand name.

But hey, the stories quality is slightly up. Not as good as the '60s, '70s, '80s, early '90s or even the beginning of JMS/Jenkins' run before '04...but hey they're an improvement when Marvel literally was trying to piss fans off. So I guess that's a win.

 

[Hobgoblin]

You have to take in the irony of this though. Marvel (under Quesada's er..visionary leadership) INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGED their books for the last four years into mediocrity to full blown ****, so that the readership would be more inclined to accept this new direction.

Joey Q: "Look guys, the books are better because we aren't trying to piss on them anymore so you accept a BS deux ex machina storyline. But aren't these new '70s-knock-off stories just swell?!"

With that said the writing has gone up. But when they are actually not trying to take a **** on the fans, that isn't exactly a hard goal to accomplish. But the tone of the character is very stale. They have basically set the character into permanent (at least while Quesada is in charge) stasis mode. He is now Marvel's Charlie Brown, Mickey Mouse, etc. Don't expect any deep stories and complex character development or exploration in the near future. In the days of The Dark Knight, Marvel is content making Spidey nothing more than a brand name.

But hey, the stories quality is slightly up. Not as good as the '60s, '70s, '80s, early '90s or even the beginning of JMS/Jenkins' run before '04...but hey they're an improvement when Marvel literally was trying to piss fans off. So I guess that's a win.

I actually liked the previous few years before OMD. (The Other and Sins Past being the exception.) I didnt mind Civil War or Back in Black. I would easily take those stories over BND.

 

[imdaly]

It's always a good idea to scrape the bottom of the barrell and clone a character with notoriety.

Ditto Menace.

Ditto Demogoblin.

 

[iloveclones]

I think a lot of people think guys like me and TMOB (and many others) are just buying it primarily out of loyalty (i.e. we want a full run, we love the character so much we'll buy no matter what, etc..). I can assure you, at least for me, that is definately not the case. I do give titles that I like time to right themselves (ergo, the two or three issues of Claremont's Exiles that I wasted money on) and Spidey certainly gets a little more leeway in that regard. But a title doesn't make it's way onto the top of my reading pile without being top-notch, as Amazing has been the past year.

 

[iloveclones]

You have to take in the irony of this though. Marvel (under Quesada's er..visionary leadership) INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGED their books for the last four years into mediocrity to full blown ****, so that the readership would be more inclined to accept this new direction.

Wasn't this a consistently top 10-15 book? I wish he would intentionally sabotage all the books under his stewardship....

 

[Hobgoblin]

Ditto Demogoblin.

Dude. Ow.












Touche.

 

[Spidey0]

I actually liked the previous few years before OMD. (The Other and Sins Past being the exception.) I didnt mind Civil War or Back in Black. I would easily take those stories over BND.

Speaking of The Other, what did you guys think about that Spidey event. And also, where can I get that story arc in one collection (hardcover or paperback)?