SPARTACUS: War of the Damned! Final Season!

as much as I enjoy this show, it would be so much more with andy still around.
hate to say it.

Any time I see the character have to deal with any sort of thing I just ask myself what would andy do with the scene. The I remember all the scenes he had with Batiatus...amazing stuff.
 
Either way they don't have to train anymore to fight and don't have stable food so they would be smaller naturally now.
 
as much as I enjoy this show, it would be so much more with andy still around.
hate to say it.

Any time I see the character have to deal with any sort of thing I just ask myself what would andy do with the scene. The I remember all the scenes he had with Batiatus...amazing stuff.

I agree. I don't want to be unfair to Liam, because it's not his fault. So I'll say it's not Liam that ruins the Spartacus scenes for me, but rather the absence of Andy. Sorry guys. I tried. I really can't get back into the show. Without Andy's magnetic performance, it lacks that spark that elevated it from above-average hack n' slash to one of the most gripping shows on television.
 
liam looks so scrawny this season...
actually I was thinking that about Gannicus. He looked less fit to me, but maybe that's because they want to show he drinks so much now...
 
It looks like we are getting a pretty good "villain" with Crassius. The sparring sequences with the old gladiator were great, btw, the guy was ripped as hell for an "old man" (his face is familiar but I don't remember why ).
 
It looks like we are getting a pretty good "villain" with Crassius. The sparring sequences with the old gladiator were great, btw, the guy was ripped as hell for an "old man" (his face is familiar but I don't remember why ).
Well I went to IMDB to see if knewhe guy but they don't even have a cast list or even a link to this show at all. That site has relly been sucking and it used to be my go to site. Even the official site doesn't have the full cast list. Lame....
 
I did some digging as well to no avail.
Another thing, Jules Caesar looks odd, like a mix of Brad Pitt Hercules in Troy and Tony Stark for the goatee. I find his look out of place.
 
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It looks like we are getting a pretty good "villain" with Crassius. The sparring sequences with the old gladiator were great, btw, the guy was ripped as hell for an "old man" (his face is familiar but I don't remember why ).

Well I went to IMDB to see if knewhe guy but they don't even have a cast list or even a link to this show at all. That site has relly been sucking and it used to be my go to site. Even the official site doesn't have the full cast list. Lame....

He was Richard Norton...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0636280/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Norton_(actor)
 
I'm so bad with history, I didn't realize that Caesar was not going to be ruler yet in this show.

Now since I am bad with history, something I'm confused over. Was Julius Caesar actually his real name or was Caesar a title that was given to rulers?

Who was emperor of Rome at the time of the slave revolt?
 
I'm so bad with history, I didn't realize that Caesar was not going to be ruler yet in this show.

Now since I am bad with history, something I'm confused over. Was Julius Caesar actually his real name or was Caesar a title that was given to rulers?

Who was emperor of Rome at the time of the slave revolt?

1) Caesar was his actual last name. It went on to become more of a title.

2) There was no Emperor. Julius Caesar would go on to be the first Roman Emperor. Crassus and Caesar were actually two of the main people behind transforming Rome from a Republic to an Imperial dictatorship. They and General Pompey formed a triumvirate that ruled Rome, but Crassus was killed in battle some time after Spartacus' rebellion, and Caesar and Pompey fought a civil war that ended with Pompey getting assassinated. Then you had Caesar as Emperor, his eventual assassination, and Marc Antony's losing battle with Caesar's nephew and the next Emperor Octavian (who went by the name of Augustus Caesar), who cemented the tradition of having an Emperor.
 
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I did some digging as well to no avail.
Another thing, Jules Caesar looks odd, like a mix of Brad Pitt Hercules in Troy and Tony Stark for the goatee. I find his look out of place.

They made Caesar look more like a Northern European which is odd because Caesar's family was one of the oldest in Rome. They would have been about as Italian as you could get back then.

I'm so bad with history, I didn't realize that Caesar was not going to be ruler yet in this show.

Now since I am bad with history, something I'm confused over. Was Julius Caesar actually his real name or was Caesar a title that was given to rulers?

Who was emperor of Rome at the time of the slave revolt?

Spartacus's rebellion was from 73 BC-71 BC.

Caesar formed a triumvirate with Pompey and Crassus in 60 BC. All three were elected conul (leader) of the Senate in 59 BC. He spent 58-50 BC in Gaul conquering it. Crassus died in 53BC. This and other things led to the end of the triumvirate and Caesar and Pompey had a falling out. When a person was Consul they could do whatever they wanted and ignore law, but after their one year term was over they could be charged for any laws they broke. Caesar took off to Gaul to conquer it and stay out of the senates reach. After the triumvirate ended Pompey and the senate sought to bring him up on charges and Caesar was having none of that so when he returned to Rome in 49 BC he crossed the Rubicon with his army which was strictly forbidden. This started the Civil War that would overthrow the Republic and put Caesar in power as the Dictator. Note: when I say Dictator I don't mean in the sense of dictator's today. He wasn't a madman butchering his people and the little time he held the power he did a lot of good for Rome, and its speculated that had he not done what he did the Republic would have collapsed anyway. The old ways die hard, tho, and the Senate found his changes unbearable and they killed him. That's a very paraphrased history of Caesar but it gets the gist of what went down.
 
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They made Caesar look more like a Northern European which is odd because Caesar's family was one of the oldest in Rome. They would have been about as Italian as you could get back then.

Well, Italians probably didn't look quite the same back then as they do now.

A lot of depictions of the Emperors, Commodus for example off the top of my head, had blond hair.
 
Well, Italians probably didn't look quite the same back then as they do now.

A lot of depictions of the Emperors, Commodus for example off the top of my head, had blond hair.

Suetonius, born in the 1st century AD, said he had brown hair and brown eyes. He could have been BSing, but its the general look people think of when picturing Caesar.
 
One thing....Julius Caesar was supposedly quite a bit scrawnier than Spartacus makes him look like (or most onscreen depictions), and supposedly had epilepsy.
 
One thing....Julius Caesar was supposedly quite a bit scrawnier than Spartacus makes him look like (or most onscreen depictions), and supposedly had epilepsy.

He was also balding quite early. Something he was supposedly self-conscious about.
 
the first season with andy and also the prequel were great and i enjoyed it very much. but the second and third season can not keep the pace...massiv decrease + the new spartacus guy isnt the right guy..
 
the first season with andy and also the prequel were great and i enjoyed it very much. but the second and third season can not keep the pace...massiv decrease + the new spartacus guy isnt the right guy..


I wasn't in Liam's court last season, and I need to see more of this season, but as of right now I am pro-Liam.

Look, I love what Andy did. The guy was Spartacus. He brought the pain, suffering, and triumph, but life, being the ***** it can be, it took him from everyone least of all us and this show. He is gone, and we are going to have to deal with that. It isn't Liam's fault, and it isn't this shows fault. Liam, with his limited experience, is trying, and is for the most part succeeding. I think we can cut him and the show itself some slack. Honestly, it is a wonder the show even made it this far considering what it has been through.
 
Anyone coming and trying to replace the popular originator of a role, especially one stolen from the show by tragic real life circumstances, is gonna have kind of a ****** job.
 
Maybe they're trying to play up Caesar as Spartacus's opposite, so they let him keep a bit of a "barbaric" look?
 
They made Caesar look more like a Northern European which is odd because Caesar's family was one of the oldest in Rome. They would have been about as Italian as you could get back then.



Spartacus's rebellion was from 73 BC-71 BC.

Caesar formed a triumvirate with Pompey and Crassus in 60 BC. All three were elected conul (leader) of the Senate in 59 BC. He spent 58-50 BC in Gaul conquering it. Crassus died in 53BC. This and other things led to the end of the triumvirate and Caesar and Pompey had a falling out. When a person was Consul they could do whatever they wanted and ignore law, but after their one year term was over they could be charged for any laws they broke. Caesar took off to Gaul to conquer it and stay out of the senates reach. After the triumvirate ended Pompey and the senate sought to bring him up on charges and Caesar was having none of that so when he returned to Rome in 49 BC he crossed the Rubicon with his army which was strictly forbidden. This started the Civil War that would overthrow the Republic and put Caesar in power as the Dictator. Note: when I say Dictator I don't mean in the sense of dictator's today. He wasn't a madman butchering his people and the little time he held the power he did a lot of good for Rome, and its speculated that had he not done what he did the Republic would have collapsed anyway. The old ways die hard, tho, and the Senate found his changes unbearable and they killed him. That's a very paraphrased history of Caesar but it gets the gist of what went down.
So it was just the Roman republic Senate or Consul who was in charge before Caesar took over basically?
 

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