Spider-Man: Brand New Day General News and Discussion Thread

[MagnarTheGreat]

Marvel’s Kevin Feige Talks Scaling Back, Losing Kang and His Texts to James Gunn After ‘Superman’

Ahead of 'Fantastic Four: First Steps,' the studio boss engaged in a free-wheeling conversation with journalists, where he spoke extensively about the stumbles of the post-'Endgame' content boom, why Miles Morales won't be coming to the MCU anytime soon, and what's going on with 'Blade.'

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Don’t expect a live-action Miles Morales any time soon (thanks a lot, Sony)

Many fans have been for years clamoring for a live-action MCU appearance of Miles Morales, the Spider-Man who headlines the acclaimed Spider-Verse movies from Sony Animation. When asked where Marvel was in the development of a live-action version of the character, Feige responded, “That is nowhere.”

And added that Morales’ fate was in Sony’s hands.

“Sony has their brilliant, genius, incredible Spider- Verse animated franchise going and until that finishes, we’ve been told to stay away,” said Feige.

Punisher is another example. The violent vigilante played by Jon Bernthal is the subject of a special that just began shooting last week and will air on Disney+ next year. It is intended to be TV-MA.

But “when Punisher is in the Spider-Man movie, it’ll be a different tonality,” said Feige, confirming the character is in the next Spidey film.

 

[Elayis]

Tom Holland Says ‘Spider-Man: Brand New Day’ Will Go Back to ‘Old School Filmmaking and Shoot in Real Locations’ After COVID Restricted ‘No Way Home’ to Soundstages

Tom Holland says his fourth 'Spider-Man' movie is going back to shooting in real locations after COVID restricted 'No Way Home' to sound stages.

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It's hilariously depressing that shooting on real locations is now considered "old school."

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

not sure if this was posted yet, but we are getting a street level story

‘Spider-Man Brand New Day’s Story and Punisher’s Role in the Film Revealed by Kevin Feige

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige confirms Spider-Man: Brand New Day will focus on Tom Holland's Spider-Man tackling street-level crime.

collider.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Once Fantastic Four is out the door I'm expecting more news.

 

[PBisawsem2B]

not sure if this was posted yet, but we are getting a street level story

‘Spider-Man Brand New Day’s Story and Punisher’s Role in the Film Revealed by Kevin Feige

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige confirms Spider-Man: Brand New Day will focus on Tom Holland's Spider-Man tackling street-level crime.

collider.com

Vindicated. A few months ago, I was dogpiled (on this thread, I think) for saying this was going to happen.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Vindicated. A few months ago, I was dogpiled (on this thread, I think) for saying this was going to happen.

Dang, really? I may not have been around at that time but I remember that there were rumors of Sony & Disney fighting about the scale of the movie. We all wanted it to be street level, I'm surprised to know a lot of people disagreed with you

 

[PBisawsem2B]

Dang, really? I may not have been around at that time but I remember that there were rumors of Sony & Disney fighting about the scale of the movie. We all wanted it to be street level, I'm surprised to know a lot of people disagreed with you

Page 18 of this thread, you were there, actually. :P And you were one of the people who said "all the rumors are multiverse, so it's gonna be multiverse." Not to gloat though, everyone is going to be wrong sometime. Just reminiscing.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

It's great to get all this news...but who are the dang villains?!

 

[Elayis]

I can't understand how it could be street level if Hulk is in it.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Page 18 of this thread, you were there, actually. :P And you were one of the people who said "all the rumors are multiverse, so it's gonna be multiverse." Not to gloat though, everyone is going to be wrong sometime. Just reminiscing.

ohhhhhh I see. you're right, I was absolutely there. the conversation between me and you started with you saying that you don't believe that the multiversal rumors are legitimate and I responded saying I want to believe you but the rumors are hard not to believe if they kept coming.

I'm very happy the studios have chosen to go with street level storytelling, but the arguments between Sony & Disney for the scale of this movie, were legitimate. the rest of the dogpiling that happened to you from when I glanced back (this was more than half a year ago, so I honestly just completely forgot about it) was when you were challenging the notion of MCU characters showing up in Spider-Man movies being a contractual necessity. for my part, I pointed out to you that it is.

 

[psylockolussus]

A live action Miles Morales is probably going to happen under Sony alone. Rather than a Marvel Studios partnership.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

A live action Miles Morales is probably going to happen under Sony alone. Rather than a Marvel Studios partnership.

Was there news about Miles Morales live action recently? We've seen MCU prowler twice, most recently 2 years ago but the first time 8 years ago debuting in an MCU movie. I think a Miles trilogy will happen after MCU Spider-Man 6.

 

[Lily Adler]

Was there news about Miles Morales live action recently? We've seen MCU prowler twice, most recently 2 years ago but the first time 8 years ago debuting in an MCU movie. I think a Miles trilogy will happen after MCU Spider-Man 6.

Miles would be a teenager now.

 

[Frodo]

I'm not all that surprised about the Miles Morales stuff.

I suspect, for the time being, Sony wants to keep the options open , in terms of having their own Miles Morales , live action , Spiderman films , as opposed to having Marvel Studios produce it.

In other words, Peter Parker can remain the MCU Spiderman , But Sony is gonna keep their options open as to what to do with a live action Miles Morales Spiderman , for the time being.

I'm not convinced Sony has abandoned all of their plans for future spin off, Outside the MCU films, but I do think they're stepping back from them , for now .

But, we'll see what happens.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Miles would be a teenager now.

Seems like the prime time to at least introduce him into the MCU now.

I made a whole Youtube video about this, how he could debut in MCU Spider-Man 4 and get bitten, then MCU SM5 could be him starting to learn the ropes of being Spider-Man, and then SM6 could end with Peter fully handing the mantle to him

I'm not all that surprised about the Miles Morales stuff.

I suspect, for the time being, Sony wants to keep the options open , in terms of having their own Miles Morales , live action , Spiderman films , as opposed to having Marvel Studios produce it.

In other words, Peter Parker can remain the MCU Spiderman , But Sony is gonna keep their options open as to what to do with a live action Miles Morales Spiderman , for the time being.

I'm not convinced Sony has abandoned all of their plans for future spin off, Outside the MCU films, but I do think they're stepping back from them , for now .

But, we'll see what happens.

This makes sense, but the only part of it that doesn't is the fact that Miles' existence was already acknowledged in the MCU. I talked about Prowler above, but we also had a deleted scene where he calls Miles.

We are still in the multiverse saga of the MCU and we got Prowler in his supervillain suit in Spider-Verse 2, so it's kinda convoluted for the overarching narrative for them to just ignore all that and go with a different version of Miles in a reboot or different universe or whatever.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I still say, if I were Sony it would make more sense to me to full time partner with Disney/Marvel and give them free license to have characters, pending approval, appear in any MCU project. Like a Norman or whoever, but in exchange we have to release 1 Spider-Man character related movie every year. So Spider-Man movie, Spider-Gwen, Black Cat, whoever. Same profit share as they did for NWH and BND. Splitting profit and budget on a movie that makes like 400 mil sounds better than investing 100 mil and it flopping.

 

[PBisawsem2B]

were legitimate. the rest of the dogpiling that happened to you from when I glanced back (this was more than half a year ago, so I honestly just completely forgot about it) was when you were challenging the notion of MCU characters showing up in Spider-Man movies being a contractual necessity.

Well, that's not what I actually said after a certain point, but that's beside the point. xD Anyway, I'm happy to see the new direction too.

 

[BobJM]

I still say, if I were Sony it would make more sense to me to full time partner with Disney/Marvel and give them free license to have characters, pending approval, appear in any MCU project. Like a Norman or whoever, but in exchange we have to release 1 Spider-Man character related movie every year. So Spider-Man movie, Spider-Gwen, Black Cat, whoever. Same profit share as they did for NWH and BND. Splitting profit and budget on a movie that makes like 400 mil sounds better than investing 100 mil and it flopping.

You can’t pretend to be Sony and start making sense.

But obviously, yes, the future of the MCU could rest easily on the shoulders of the X-Men and Tom Holland’s Spider-Man (with MCU-controlled, Spidey-related spin-offs in the mix). Throw in some Fantastic Four and casually recast the Avengers after the reset.

Build up to an Onslaught event or something.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Well, that's not what I actually said after a certain point, but that's beside the point. xD Anyway, I'm happy to see the new direction too.

I went back and read the conversation starting on page 18 and while I was there, that's what you were saying. Maybe after a certain point you stopped but that's after we stopped engaging with each other

 

[PBisawsem2B]

I went back and read the conversation starting on page 18 and while I was there, that's what you were saying. Maybe after a certain point you stopped but that's after we stopped engaging with each other

No, all I was asking was for people to point me to a source, no real assertion that MCU characters weren't needed contractually, only skepticism. I also argued against "team-ups," people then told me team ups were not needed, and then after that point one person said team ups were needed, I pointed it out, and then they said I was arguing semantics, which is just a strawman. Anyway, it was a huge contradiction AFAIR. Anyway, that's beside the point. There isn't any need to bring this up in the thread, lest it be derailed

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

No, all I was asking was for people to point me to a source, no real assertion that MCU characters weren't needed contractually, only skepticism. I also argued against "team-ups," people then told me team ups were not needed, and then after that point one person said team ups were needed, I pointed it out, and then they said I was arguing semantics, which is just a strawman. Anyway, it was a huge contradiction AFAIR. Anyway, that's beside the point. There isn't any need to bring this up in the thread, lest it be derailed

bruh you brought it up in the first place yes you asked for a source, and then I gave you a source confirming that MCU characters were and are needed contractually. it's not skepticism.

anyway, getting back on topic, I just read about what Feige said on Miles Morales and that is also quite disappointing. nothing Miles related at all until after 2027? I think that's a terrible mistake but as has been said on this page already, there are no shortages of Sony making those. at the very least I think the character should appear in Brand New Day, and best case scenario gets bitten. maybe as a stinger right at the end, or as a post credit scene.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I think they’re waiting for Spider-Verse to wrap up in 2027. Disney may have to reach a new deal with Sony to use the character, I don’t know. Personally I’d hold off for as long as possible to start having multiple Spider-Men again.

Kevin Feige Reveals When Miles Morales is Headed to the MCU

#MilesMorales is officially MCU bound, and it's happening sooner rather than later. 🕸️ #SpiderMan

movieweb.com

Miles will appear in the third Spider-Verse, which is in production. I hope that, shortly after that, he can enter the MCU in live-action.

Spider-Man: Amy Pascal, Christopher Miller Weigh in on Live-Action Miles Morales Movie - Comic Book Movies and Superhero Movie News - SuperHeroHype

Amy Pascal and Christopher Miller weigh in on when the live-action Miles Morales/Spider-Man movie is happening.

www.superherohype.com

When asked for an update on the current status of the movie, Pascal said, “Someday. Not until we make two more movies.”

On Twitter, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse’s Christopher Miller added, “To clarify, when she said ‘not until we make two more movies,’ she meant Beyond the Spider-Verse and the live-action Tom Holland film.”

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[Frodo]

bruh you brought it up in the first place yes you asked for a source, and then I gave you a source confirming that MCU characters were and are needed contractually. it's not skepticism.

anyway, getting back on topic, I just read about what Feige said on Miles Morales and that is also quite disappointing. nothing Miles related at all until after 2027? I think that's a terrible mistake but as has been said on this page already, there are no shortages of Sony making those. at the very least I think the character should appear in Brand New Day, and best case scenario gets bitten. maybe as a stinger right at the end, or as a post credit scene.

I would prefer something like that as well, or at the very least, Peter being a mentor to a young Miles to build up to Miles eventually taking on the mantle.

I suspect Holland won't be around for like, eight more films ,the way alot of fans may wish it to be .

So , it would be good to have a younger MCU Miles waiting in the wings who Tom's Peter can hand the webshooters to .

That would also be a cool resolution to his version of Spiderman to be the mentor to the new kid .
Things could come fulll circle in that sense.

But , if Sony keeps Miles off the MCU table, we may not get that .

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I would prefer something like that as well, or at the very least, Peter being a mentor to a young Miles to build up to Miles eventually taking on the mantle.

I suspect Holland won't be around for like, eight more films ,the way alot of fans may wish it to be .

So , it would be good to have a younger MCU Miles waiting in the wings who Tom's Peter can hand the webshooters to .

That would also be a cool resolution to his version of Spiderman to be the mentor to the new kid .
Things could come fulll circle in that sense.

But , if Sony keeps Miles off the MCU table, we may not get that .

the script of Brand New Day might have too much going on for Peter to become a mentor to someone else, however, I think if Miles is just around as mostly a civilian and spectator for SM4, the door is open for the mentor-mentee storyline in SM5, which is much further down the road. and now that I think about it, SM5 definitely will come after 2027.

I guess you could introduce Miles, show him getting bitten, running into Spider-Man, then start the mentor-mentee storyline all in one movie. that is of course what Spider-Verse 1 did, but Miles was the main character, not Peter. And I'm pretty sure Peter will still be the main character of SM5. I didn't play Ps4 Spider-Man, but correct me if I'm wrong, didn't that game end with Peter just then learning that Miles got spidey powers?

 

[psylockolussus]

the future of the MCU could rest easily on the shoulders of the X-Men

Build up to an Onslaught event or something.

MCU - mutant cinematic universe!