No Way Home Spider-Man: No Way Home Spoiler Discussion Thread

[TheWallCrawler]

Damn, Spiderman gets the short stick in every universe. He's perpetually broke and alone. Tom Holland gave a hell of a performance.

Yeah, I'm really surprised that the identity reveal ended up having real consequences. I thought for sure that everything would get fixed with magic in the end and Peter would keep on living his best life. Not only is Peter alone now, but nobody even knows he existed. That's cold.

I bet the next movie will start with him being in a bit of an emotional slump, being less happy-go-lucky and more quiet and reserved. If he's in college, someone friendly will notice him and reach out, like Randy Robertson for example. Bit by bit Peter will come out of his shell and makes new friends

 

[First Avenger]

Yeah, I'm really surprised that the identity reveal ended up having real consequences. I thought for sure that everything would get fixed with magic in the end and Peter would keep on living his best life. Not only is Peter alone now, but nobody even knows he existed. That's cold.

I bet the next movie will start with him being in a bit of an emotional slump, being less happy-go-lucky and more quiet and reserved. If he's in college, someone friendly will notice him and reach out, like Randy Robertson for example. Bit by bit Peter will come out of his shell and makes new friends

Just let him and Daredevil team-up ASAP. I need that relationship on screen. Then with Johnny and Logan once they are introduced in the MCU.

 

[Drizzle]

My coworker made an interesting observation that didn't occur to me. When they first show up in the movie, Garfield is in his Spider-Man outfit the whole time while Maguire is in his (youth pastor) civilian clothes as Peter until it's time to suit up for the final battle. What's interesting about this is that among the fandom it's usually agreed that out of the two, Maguire was the better Peter while Garfield was the better Spider-Man and that they were dressed the way that they were as a nod to that particular debate.

 

[Galactus123]

Tom Holland Spidey's new suit reminded me of the Web of Shadows suit.

 

[kguillou]

Guys think about this for a sec, you guys realize this movie was essentially One More Day except, you know, done WELL.

 

[ragingdemon155]

My coworker made an interesting observation that didn't occur to me. When they first show up in the movie, Garfield is in his Spider-Man outfit the whole time while Maguire is in his (youth pastor) civilian clothes as Peter until it's time to suit up for the final battle. What's interesting about this is that among the fandom it's usually agreed that out of the two, Maguire was the better Peter while Garfield was the better Spider-Man and that they were dressed the way that they were as a nod to that particular debate.

Good observation.

I do wonder why that was the direction they went with though? I like your reasoning and so on…but I would love some actually confirmation from the studio at one point on why they decided to have Andrew have the suit and Tobey come in street clothes. I feel the yank the mask off is a much more dynamic identity reveal. Maybe they didn’t want to do the same method twice though.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Not sure if this has been brought up, because I've skipped, like... so many pages. And I haven't seen the Venom movies. So is it possible that the symbiote reproduced while in the MCU, making the bit left over a separate, natural born citizen of that reality?

Like, even if this wasn't the intent, would this work as a potential explanation for part of it being left over?

 

[RiXi]

Good observation.

I do wonder why that was the direction they went with though? I like your reasoning and so on…but I would love some actually confirmation from the studio at one point on why they decided to have Andrew have the suit and Tobey come in street clothes. I feel the yank the mask is a much more dynamic identity reveal. Maybe they didn’t want to do the same method twice though.

I thought it was bait for people to think he wouldn't be suiting up in the film. Which obviously didn't work.

 

[Drizzle]

Good observation.

I do wonder why that was the direction they went with though? I like your reasoning and so on…but I would love some actually confirmation from the studio at one point on why they decided to have Andrew have the suit and Tobey come in street clothes. I feel the yank the mask off is a much more dynamic identity reveal. Maybe they didn’t want to do the same method twice though.

I thought it was bait for people to think he wouldn't be suiting up in the film. Which obviously didn't work.

Either way, I thought the reveals worked great but the cherry on top was missing, and that was the use of the Elfman and Horner themes when we first see them as opposed to there being no score at all.

 

[B]

I've a general question, with the climax of the film am I correct in assuming the world & the Avengers basically all remember Spider-Man & the role he played in those crossover events, however they just no longer recall that he's Peter Parker or what he looks like under the mask?

 

[Kev4000]

I've a general question, with the climax of the film am I correct in assuming the world & the Avengers basically all remember Spider-Man & the role he played in those crossover events, however they just no longer recall that he's Peter Parker or what he looks like under the mask?

I think yes, but they made it not clear on purpose so they can play the other way as well, if they want to.

 

[DyeLorean]

I've a general question, with the climax of the film am I correct in assuming the world & the Avengers basically all remember Spider-Man & the role he played in those crossover events, however they just no longer recall that he's Peter Parker or what he looks like under the mask?

That's my interpretation as well, yes. For example Happy taking Peter to Germany and all that still happened but Happy has no memory of anything involving Peter. Spider-Man? Yes. Peter Parker? Nope.

 

[B]

I think yes, but they made it not clear on purpose so they can play the other way as well, if they want to.

That's my interpretation as well, yes. For example Happy taking Peter to Germany and all that still happened but Happy has no memory of anything involving Peter. Spider-Man? Yes. Peter Parker? Nope.

I hope they try to clarify it a little as to the depth of the spell because it's quite convoluted when you start to think about the details of characters like Happy who have had such heavy involvement with the character(s) that surely if he doesn't know who Peter Parker is it would leave quite a lot of gaps in his own memory of certain events.

 

[SpocksBrain]

Yes. She's gone.

Like I said yesterday, I'm confident now there's no Uncle Ben in the MCU. At least, not the way we're used to.

Tony Stark and May filled that role in Peter's life.

Not sure why you think that. Just because Ben didn’t say the “Great Responsibility” line to Peter?

Ben has been mentioned in the MCU films.

 

[samsnee]

Yes they just don’t want to rely on Uncle Ben like they did in previous movies but he did exist. They’ve alluded to him.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Anyone else spot those magazine covers with Liz on the cover while Strange was chasing Peter?

 

[mclay18]

I was disappointed in the absence of special thanks to Laura Ziskin, Sam Raimi and Marc Webb.

This. Arad’s involvement is grossly overstated. I would say the late Ziskin deserves more credit, she actually got Raimi and Webb onboard.

 

[Boom]

I assume they made a physical costume for the final scene. I don't want another Civil War/Homecoming situation where they start with a CG suit and then when they try to replicate it physically it doesn't look as good.

 

[BobJM]

Guys think about this for a sec, you guys realize this movie was essentially One More Day except, you know, done WELL.

I think it’s more evocative of Joe Quesada’s “One Moment in Time,” which is OMIT—the storyline where the marriage between Peter and MJ was undone.

 

[Jordacar]

I'm still cracking up at ASM Peter hanging from the ceiling by one hand to prove he's legit.

 

[Spidey_62]

I think it’s more evocative of Joe Quesada’s “One Moment in Time,” which is OMIT—the storyline where the marriage between Peter and MJ was undone.

One More Day was the story where the marriage was undone, OMIT was the story they did a few years later to try and explain why things were the way they were now: ie how everybody forgot Peter's secret identity (besides Mary Jane), and how they now didn't get married (a brick hit him on the head lmao, terrible). This story borrows the Doctor Strange using a magic spell to erase everybody's memory of Peter's secret identity from OMIT, it didn't make everybody forget Peter Parker, and he made it so Mary Jane remembered.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I loved Garfield in this and legitimately hated him in both TASM movies. I think I just hated his forced stuttering and not believably socially awkward Peter Parker more than anything. His Spider-Man is great and I think those movies also just kinda sucked. I’d love to see more of him going forward.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I loved Garfield in this and legitimately hated him in both TASM movies. I think I just hated his forced stuttering and not believably socially awkward Peter Parker more than anything. His Spider-Man is great and I think those movies also just kinda sucked. I’d love to see more of him going forward.

Even his villains were better here

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I loved Garfield in this and legitimately hated him in both TASM movies. I think I just hated his forced stuttering and not believably socially awkward Peter Parker more than anything. His Spider-Man is great and I think those movies also just kinda sucked. I’d love to see more of him going forward.

Andrew was always the wrong choice for a high school Peter. It was clear just looking at him that he had already grown into his manliness, thus he couldn't exactly sell the awkward teens. It hurts because he really could've been the perfect college-graduate Peter Parker. Tobey's Peter was still studying at the end of 3, so that would've been a pretty seamless transition to a "soft-reboot". He'd get an internship at the lab of his old professor Dr. Connors etc.

Anyway, I also loved Andrew in No Way Home. I'm glad that despite of everything, he still gets a lot of fanfare.

 

[Broseph44]

The official Marvel Website has them up now