Comics Spider-man Reign

[The Joker]

You're assuming the Kaare Andrew's is playing by the 616 continuity rules. Which I don't think he is!

The only thing I saw out of continuity was Kraven still being alive.

That aside, as I said, look at his posture in this issue and the cover to issue #3. It speaks for itself. The Doc is clearly a dead man.

Not at all.

In fact, when you look at him carting Spidey across the city, his head is actually looking at him as he's carrying him.

As for the tentacles motivations in taking Spidey to the graveyard; If i'm correct and they are operating with some remnant conciousness/instinct from Octavius' mind. Then the question could also be asked, why would HE even want to do that himself?

Well, that's where we'll have to disagree. Interesting theorey you have, but I can't see how it would be executed. If Ock is dead, then the tentacles are dead.

Not that I'm against the idea of a walking, vengeful Ock corpse. I just don't see how such an idea could be executed.

 

[Dark Spidey]

The only thing I saw out of continuity was Kraven still being alive.



Not at all.

In fact, when you look at him carting Spidey across the city, his head is actually looking at him as he's carrying him.



Well, that's where we'll have to disagree. Interesting theorey you have, but I can't see how it would be executed. If Ock is dead, then the tentacles are dead.

Rearding the Kraven issue. I think he was being metaphorical or something. I believe that this is the second generation Kraven (explaining his younger appearence). Who acknowledges his Father "killed" Spider-man before. So why can't he?

Now if we're honest with eachother here. When Ock is carting Spidey across the city his head is facing DOWN towards Spidey. Because just like his arms, his head is limp (if i'm right).

As for if Ock is dead, then the tentacles are dead. You forget that this is a far distant future vision of Spidey. Who's to say what side-effects long term connection between Octavius and his tentacles would produce.

My question to you is this; are saying that even after looking at the cover and solicitation for issue #3, you still think it's improbable that i'm right? If so, how do you interprit them?

 

[The Joker]

Rearding the Kraven issue. I think he was being metaphorical or something. I believe that this is the second generation Kraven (explaining his younger appearence). Who acknowledges his Father "killed" Spider-man before. So why can't he?

That's possible, alright.

Now if we're honest with eachother here. When Ock is carting Spidey across the city his head is facing DOWN towards Spidey. Because just like his arms, his head is limp (if i'm right).

That's also a possibility. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't agree with your theorey. I can't get my head around why Ock's arms would feel compelled to take Peter in the middle of a street brawl, and bury him.

As for if Ock is dead, then the tentacles are dead. You forget that this is a far distant future vision of Spidey. Who's to say what side-effects long term connection between Octavius and his tentacles would produce.

Again, you could be right. I can't say you're wrong, because anything is possible. I just don't think that's what will happen.

And I can't see how Ock's conscious mind could be in his tentacles, especially if he's dead. I still think there's something physically wrong with Octavius, and it may be down to a previous encounter with Spider-Man.

My question to you is this; are saying that even after looking at the cover and solicitation for issue #3, you still think it's improbable that i'm right? If so, how do you interprit them?

As I said above, I'm not saying you're wrong. I can't say that because I don't know for certain what will happen. I'm just saying I don't agree with your theorey.

I'm not against the idea of Ock's corpse coming to life on his tentacles and trying to bury Spidey. It's a pretty cool and twisted idea.

My impression is that something has happened to Ock that has physically altered him in some way. Like that that flabby skinned vegetable the mayor was having dinner with in issue 1.

That's why Ock was kept in the shadows. Something has changed about him. I don't think it's death.

 

[Dark Spidey]

That's possible, alright.



That's also a possibility. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't agree with your theorey. I can't get my head around why Ock's arms would feel compelled to take Peter in the middle of a street brawl, and bury him.



Again, you could be right. I can't say you're wrong, because anything is possible. I just don't think that's what will happen.

And I can't see how Ock's conscious mind could be in his tentacles, especially if he's dead. I still think there's something physically wrong with Octavius, and it may be down to a previous encounter with Spider-Man.



As I said above, I'm not saying you're wrong. I can't say that because I don't know for certain what will happen. I'm just saying I don't agree with your theorey.

I'm not against the idea of Ock's corpse coming to life on his tentacles and trying to bury Spidey. It's a pretty cool and twisted idea.

My impression is that something has happened to Ock that has physically altered him in some way. Like that that flabby skinned vegetable the mayor was having dinner with in issue 1.

That's why Ock was kept in the shadows. Something has changed about him. I don't think it's death.

Very well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I personally think it'd be great if Ock was dead and his tentacles were acting on some kind of imprinted instincts or lingering consciousness. How disturbingly great would that be! Anything else would be a bit of a disappointment to me at this stage.

Now that flabby skinned vegetable you mention... I think that's supposed to be none other than Wilson Fisk, THE KINGPIN! After being kept on an IV drip for ten years he's lost all of his build and is left an extremely saggy skinned bag of bones.

 

[Shin-Natsume]

Very well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I personally think it'd be great if Ock was dead and his tentacles were acting on some kind of imprinted instincts or lingering consciousness. How disturbingly great would that be! Anything else would be a bit of a disappointment to me at this stage.

Now that flabby skinned vegetable you mention... I think that's supposed to be none other than Wilson Fisk, THE KINGPIN! After being kept on an IV drip for ten years he's lost all of his build and is left an extremely saggy skinned bag of bones.

papers said he is dead... fisk, i mean. also, looking at peter, i think he feels responsible for the death of mary jane... he is weird...

 

[Dark Spidey]

papers said he is dead... fisk, i mean. also, looking at peter, i think he feels responsible for the death of mary jane... he is weird...

Maybe so. But if you remember the Mayor was saying that getting to keep that guy (Fisk) was his little trophy (for cleaning up the city).

So everyone else may think Fisk is dead. When in fact he's been secretly incarcerated and starved on an IV drip for his crimes. Makes deliciously perverted sense to me, in this dark, dark world Andrew's is painting for us.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I definitely really liked this second issue. I was having my reservations after the first issue but this second one really put things into a much better perspective. Seeing that this is out of continuity Andrews can pretty much do whatever and seeing Kraven back, impaling a little kid no less, was pretty bad ass.

Spidey definitely got one hell of a beating and I'm guessing that Doc Ock is going to finish the job for the "Six". I'm only wondering who is going to save Peter or maybe he's going to finally realize that he's F'ing Spider-Man and kick the living crap out of everyone.

But I like that he's in the black suit as well. t:

 

[Dangerous]

Well, I just bought this again (one w/ sharp corners this time) but have still not got round to reading it.
Will do so tmr.

 

[OtepApe]

I think we're all missing a big point here, Doc Ock seems to now have the ability of flight. The guy is quite clearly floating in the air .

 

[Dangerous]

Rearding the Kraven issue. I think he was being metaphorical or something. I believe that this is the second generation Kraven (explaining his younger appearence).

Yeah I reckon it's Kravens son, otherwise its pretty dumb all things considered.

This issue I found pretty meh.
Doctor Octopus being dead is pretty cool, w/ his arms running the show, though if Andrews does not explain how this technology works I will be a bit disappointed. Doc flying is pretty stupid however.

I think it in the last two issues it will be time for the red and blues.

 

[Bat-Hombre]

I like it so far.

 

[Venom Drool]

him flying wasn't really the case.. yes his feet and arms are hitting the ground but i mean ... the panel was to set the mood and leave us on a dramatic note. the artist drew outside the lines a bit... so to speak.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Doc Ock could be dead, if I remember correctly there was a time when Ock downloaded his conscenious into a computer, perhaps he had some sort of incurable desease so he downloaded himself into his arms.

Edit* The thing I find most interesting about this story is the line "Is this the guy my dad talked about? The one we've been looking for?"

Why is Spider-Man the guy, the ONE. Where's the rest of them, why are they lokking for Spider-Man and not Daredevil or the Fantastic Four. Did they pack up and leave, when Spider-Man fought on? Was there an event when Spider-Man rised above the rest and saved the city when the rest failed?

This is something i hope we find out.

 

[wolvie2020]

This comic was great. This is one of the coolest, best starts to a Spider-Man story in a long time!

I'm a little edgy about the fact that we now have more questions, and less answers since the lat issue, but I giess that's part of keeping me on the edge of my seat! lol

Really great stuff

 

[Venom Drool]

Doc Ock could be dead, if I remember correctly there was a time when Ock downloaded his conscenious into a computer, perhaps he had some sort of incurable desease so he downloaded himself into his arms.

Edit* The thing I find most interesting about this story is the line "Is this the guy my dad talked about? The one we've been looking for?"

Why is Spider-Man the guy, the ONE. Where's the rest of them, why are they lokking for Spider-Man and not Daredevil or the Fantastic Four. Did they pack up and leave, when Spider-Man fought on? Was there an event when Spider-Man rised above the rest and saved the city when the rest failed?

This is something i hope we find out.

spiderman book. not FF or anything else. cause back in the day, crossovers didnt happen every other issue. let spidey do his thing.

 

[Dangerous]

If we don't start getting answers next issue about stuff, then it will be pretty clear we probably won't be getting any. KA might just take the perspective, (since he has free reign on this, ha hah no?) of not feeling the need to go into the details of how and why regarding Spidey's enemies.
That would suck.

 

[mre]

spiderman book. not FF or anything else. cause back in the day, crossovers didnt happen every other issue. let spidey do his thing.

Crossovers always happened, Spider-Man #1 had the FF in it... First apperance of GG had the Hulk, and I know Daredevil was used a lot.

 

[shinlyle]

This comic was great. This is one of the coolest, best starts to a Spider-Man story in a long time!

I'm a little edgy about the fact that we now have more questions, and less answers since the lat issue, but I giess that's part of keeping me on the edge of my seat! lol

Really great stuff

Agreed! I finally got issue 2 yesterday, and I was floored by it! This is the best Spdiey story I've read in awhile....or at least the most intriguing!! As for the continuity glitches...the government was saving the Six as a contingency plan in case any of the heroes re-emerged...along with other supervillians. They only used 6 of them. It is possible that these villians are still young because the government kept them that way. Who knows? We are 30 plus years into the future, and the tech in the Marvel universe could certainly have advanced to that point by then.

As for Ock, I thought it was fairly obvious that the scene where he was "flying" was a little bit of artistic liscense taken to further illustrate the comparison to the Ex Machina. Also...we know Ock's tentacles are capable of making him jump, too, right?

Honestly, this story is clearly an alternate future tale, so I find continuity discrepencies to be irrelevant. So long as the hero it features is our Spider-Man, and the story is genuine and moving, I'll let a few seeming incongruencies slide on by.

 

[Cullen]

Crossovers always happened, Spider-Man #1 had the FF in it... First apperance of GG had the Hulk, and I know Daredevil was used a lot.

Characters appeared in other comics, but story lines didn't snake through Marvel Comics at first. That took a little while.

 

[mre]

Characters appeared in other comics, but story lines didn't snake through Marvel Comics at first. That took a little while.

Ahh... OK.

 

[DACrowe]

I really like this story but it is moving awfully slow for a four parter. I don't mind the pace I just wish it was a longer run because at 4 issues this alternate world may come to too much of an abrupt ending then.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

is part 3 out yet?

 

[SpideyFan85]

is part 3 out yet?

This wednesday...t:

 

[shinlyle]

I cannot wait. I haven't been this excited for a Spidey book in awhile!

 

[SpideyZERO]

I want to know how Spidey's gonna survive all these!