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Not the comics in 616 universe and out of counter earth (like the one Maximum Carnage started on), I'm talking about that cartoon with the art team of X-Men:TAS behind it

I wanted to watch Spectacular Spider-Man, but saw a clip and lost interest for some reason, so I started watching this one instead now that I'm read Spider-Man 2099 (I know how unfortunate this being the closest we'll get to SM2099 cartoon, so I'll say it before you do Sly)

Stupid mood, I know, and I agree with anyone who thinks of this line:
"You leave the well developed Spectacular Spider-Man and watch this instead? :dry:"
Cause it's a far superior show, and much more fun, but as I said, stupid mood kicked in

The show isn't so bad, but Romano's performance isn't as good as it is in the PS1 games nor in The Batman, and having both Spidey and the Goblin voiced by the same guy gets confusing at times. There are some stupid moments like everyone knowing something went wrong with the shuttle Jameson used to go into Counter Earth, how do they know without a screen, the shuttle being so far, no shakes or worrisome reactions? :huh:
And of course, the costume being skin tight and sitting all over his heavy clothes pressing them, how come Spider-Man doesn't sweat?

The show could have been much better, it also could have been much worse, and I wish it didn't end on a cliffhanger and continued (I am very much aware of the financial status of the om[any back then, no need to mention it)
 
I've never seen this show, but I've heard it's bad. I'll probably check it out one day though.
 
Honestly,I thought it was ok. I seen a few episodes here and there. I think the reason it may not have worked is because it was too out there and weird,and it didn't really feel(at least to me)that Spidey belonged in that universe. I remember thinking,"Why is he still on this planet? Why not go back to Earth?" But I did appreciate them trying something new with Spidey.
 
I guess it was hated for that as well
 
Honestly,I thought it was ok. I seen a few episodes here and there. I think the reason it may not have worked is because it was too out there and weird,and it didn't really feel(at least to me)that Spidey belonged in that universe. I remember thinking,"Why is he still on this planet? Why not go back to Earth?" But I did appreciate them trying something new with Spidey.

of course he didn't belong there, wasn't that kinda the point, he was stuck there
 
This show turns 20 this year, time to do a binge watch. :awesome:

I recommend looking up Spider-Man sigla (Italian for intro), and then listen the complete version of the song. Both versions are available on YouTube.
 
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EPISODE 01: World's Apart - Part 1:


Comics yellow box (I love those things): "Solaris One launch site: Present Day, 2100 Hours..." on a helicopter with a bit of shoddy animation for 3 seconds, then the animation moves smoothly to reveal a shuttle ready for launch.
Colonel John Jameson (the first we see of him in animation after his role in season 1 of the John Semper series) is ready to make a public speech, he's in suit.

John Jameson: "Six months ago, -through use of an advanced warp drive engine- the unmanned probe; Alita projected itself to the far side of the sun. There... Alita discovered an exact duplicate of our Earth, the Counter-Earth. Then as you know, Alita sent this troubling footage of its own demise. Due to Alita's destruction, many have questioned the wisdom of a manned trip to Counter-Earth. But this act of aggression demands an investigation" (I'm not going to talk about the politics of it all, let's just know that this announced trip was a waste of money and a risk of a life)

In the crowd we hear someone proud of his son, you don't need to guess this is J. Jonah Jameson, and in this case both father and son are hot heads who rush to judgement.
Peter Parker is standing beside his boss taking pictures.
"My boy is a hero. That boy is presidential temper." (must still avoid talking politics)

John Jameson exits stage left, and spider-sense (yellow lights with some lines filling the screen, and frames turn blue sometimes, first sign this is not connected to the other Spider-Man cartoon of the decade), Parker goes away in turn.
Jonah is looking around to see where the lad went, and it looks like he mixed in with the crowd pretty fast to go invisible on him.

Peter hides behind some wooden boxes to change into costume, and bits of the intro of the other cartoon plays (for some artistic reason, motivation to keep going with this show I suppose), and the spider-sense tingles again.
Spider-Man sees two guys who look like builders in this area run toward the shuttle, doesn't seem much wrong besides "What's up with those guys?", until Spider-Man can see the two from a far distance to notice they are the symbiote parent and progeny (Venom and Carnage) as they transform and change colors, turning to clay and melting. (That change is visible give away from that distance, so I'll give it a pass, but the two symbiotes not being behind the portal from season 3 is another proof this show is disconnected, not to mention that two enemies who never liked each other since day one are allies out of the blue. That's a total of three things to tell this show is not connected to the other one)

I guess Spider-Man can sense Carnage, so I guess I should give this a pass for the progeny symbiote not inheriting the ability to hide itself from the Spider-Sense.

The two symbiotes latch onto the shuttle's left solid rocket booster and climb up pretty fast. Spider-Man moves to climb the ship to pull the two off, and there is not angle above the back spider on his shirt (could work as another giveaway against the theory that this is connected to the show before it).

And the intro plays, with brief glimpses of the origin of Spidey, and then a spoiler look on what we will see for most of the show.

Shuttle ignites, and goes up. (the noise doesn't scare the symbiotes off or hurt them while they're on the external surface of the shuttle, this is a poor thing to do, especially since you know their presence in the show will be nothing more than a waste of time and ink). Spider-Man moves up and successfully swings to latch onto the launching shuttle on time while it is still in range, and now Jonah Jameson has binoculars after not having any in the previous shot to celebrate watching the launch, and be annoyed by the interference of the webhead.

Spider-Man swings and sticks, but he's not strong enough to not be pushed back by the force, yet he manages to stick again to save himself from being scorched by the rocket blast flames.

Carnage goes to greet Spider-Man, Spider-Man sends a web ball to him to punch it away, and Venom grabs him from behinds. Melting away moves are new. Carnage talks about a synoptic that will never be properly explained, and confused Spider-Man raises his legs to pull Venom off the neck and toss them to Carnage (the other cartoon version can't move like this to attack for some reason), and Spider-Man fights them like he's still on the ground, not being pushed off the rocket by the force, air resistance, and gravity like he was before Carnage came to him.

The two merge, hide, and sneak behind him to hit him off the shuttle (what happened to Spider-Sense identifying Carnage?), and then they climb up like jello to reach the hatch, Venom decided to take full form to break the hatch for some reason after establishing they can pass through small creaks, and forgets that he probably cause oxygen to escape and let air run out of the ship fast. The orbiter splits and marches on.

Concerned Spider-Man is falling, he forms a parachute and is upset that he couldn't save the poor astronaut.
Venom sneaks into the cockpit and attacks John Jameson (no pilot, you can't reach your goal. Symbiotes didn't think it through), and Jonah Jameson on the ground is worried like he has a psychic link or something, there is not direct feed to the public in that area to notice in that crowd that gathered to witness the launch, and the shuttle entered the wormhole with no troubles.

Spider-Man is landing close to the crowd, people are confused, Jonah blames him for sabotaging the shuttle (again, why?), and the military security on the base understandably run toward our hero and want to ask him questions after pointing their guns on him and telling him to surrender, he shoves them with his parachute and runs away to change back into Peter Parker.

Spider-Man is upset that something goes wrong and everyone blames him (NOBODY HAD A WAY OF KNOWING. Except for watch room, they surely got the message of panic from the cockpit), and he compares the symbiotic duo to Vlad the Impaler.

Six Minutes in and already this has enough troubles to drop the score down to a 6 out of 10. I wonder how long this trouble in quality will stick.

Another comic narration yellow box "New York City: One Week Later"
Spider-Man is swinging high, the shot moves to a pinata doll suspended from a light-pole and pedestrians hit it with eggs. Spider-Man sees a car on a tree and pick it up to have an amusing shot of the angry cat grabbing Spider-Man's hand and biting it, he lands next to a lady that shoves him with pepper spray and pedestrians surround him, he jumps to a wall and goes away.

Cut to Jameson on TV offering 10 million dollars for any information on the identity of Spider-Man, or capturing him. The crowd walks away and Peter Parker is sulking.

@UltimateWebhead This is a part you should enjoy analyzing and tearing apart:
As he's walking sad, an explosion happens out of the blue to a building, and it's on fire. There is a woman running on the roof she reached so fast soon as the explosion happened.
Oh well, immediate saving lives is more important than personal problems. He face trouble, but he saves her.
Firemen (please don't bring any controversy here, or drag this word into one) reach the scene pretty fast, they water the fire only to push Spider-Man away by water and ignoring the flames that probably hold more people in danger, prioritizing risking the lives of many people in favor of stopping one person accused of murder of one person (Jonah had no reason to believe one happened, almost nobody had that). Fire crew are brilliant, YAH?

"You probably caused this fire" says one fireman, while the crew continue ignoring the burning building they should prioritize, and a wall collapses almost falling on the man, Spider-Man pushes him out of harm way to be covered by the debris himself.

The fireman thinks his life was saved from Spider-Man by the collapsing building, ignoring the "look out" the poor victim of rushed judgement yelled at him. The fireman shows Spider-Man's torn mask the camera crew on the scene after the fire is doused by the collapsed building.

Four hours later, Peter is at MJ's apartment door, a warm hug. He sleeps sitting on her couch and she's by his side, a TV news report wakes her up to the "End of the troubled career of Spider-Man", she sighs of relief and hopes so.
Peter wakes up, he hears words on the news about his controversial masked life. He tells MJ he should probably live his own life, MJ encourages him to do that, to do good without wearing a mask.

MJ goes to a room, Peter walks to the balcony, "Maybe the fire did end Spider-Man last night", and he hears the name John Jameson on the news, a message from the astronaut telling that there are dangerous creatures on Counter-Earth, their Earth might be next.

Narration yellow box: "Solaris Launch Center: Six Months Later"
Announcer: "Solaris 2 rescue mission is ready for lift-off. T-Minus 2 hours and counting"
Jonah Jameson pulled some strings and allowed Peter to walk into the facility, Peter sneaks somewhere to discretely put on the nano tech suit he discretely borrowed from Reed Richards (he stole it? Or secretly was handed the thing by Reed himself)..

Spider-Man climbs to enter the shuttle, Nick Fury (him being alive is a secret in the other show, not really here). Simple gestures and not much exposition the other show is known for, and Fury allows Spider-Man to pilot the shuttle "If anyone can do it, you can" without any help (he can barely drive a car in comics, minus a few moments of exception, and we're expect him to be able to pilot a shuttle here? Something that in its own needs its own college degree? Get out of town).

Spider-Man convinces the world he will go by announcing on the radio that he will fly the thing to clear his name, and uncovers his mouth to say his Peter Parker lines (No Peter NO. You don't want to have to cut a deal with Mephisto), not expecting people to tell the similarity between the voice of Peter and Spider-Man.

He flies up with no suits, no awareness of the atmosphere, probably hardly knows the directions he need to fly to without spending too much oil after the gas tanker is split, and he reaches the wormhole to be welcomed by a tractor beam real fast after he exits...

He tries to slow the descent of the ship, the heat of entry exhausts him, and the ship is held by four flying robots to slow its descent without crashing into buildings, but mostly crash lands on a roof.
Spider-Man exists, he's summoned to go to the planets lord and conqueror, but he webs two of the four welcoming robots to kick them off roof, and punches a third one to swing away.

Spidey swinging away saying "Your friendly interplanetary Spider-Man" attracts attention of four riders like the four horsemen, one of them commands the robots to halt from chasing Spider-Man cause he might be a bestial, and they chase him.

A long chase happens, we get to see Spider-Man's suit in stealth action (and this mode heating up the suit), we get introduced to the four riders as beastials known as the Knights of Wundagore; Lord Tiger, Ursa, Lady Vermin, and Sir Ram. This city has flying cars, an upper fancy level for beastials and the low level slums for humans.

Spider-Man is eventually captured and is taken to a lab to be spliced, and we get to see the face of this planets ruler known as the High Evolutionary.


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Not the best of starts, but it's not as bad as the first six minutes made me believe.
3.5/5
 
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EPISODE 02: World's Apart - Part 2:


Comics yellow box: "Present Time: Sir Ram's Lab..."
Spider-Man is tied to splicing chair, Ram has his buzz saw ready. High Evolutionary wants to examine him (cause in this world, he has no hand in turning the daughter of his friend to Spider-Woman)
Spider-Man: "Can we talk over tea and crumpets?"
Hi E: "Most perceptive Spider-Man, I am indeed not a native of this Earth"
He's some guy who left Earth to get away from war, greed, and famine to find more of the same on this planet. All that pisses him off.
Old man looks at the camera, he plans, it took him decades to do what he does while still not further aged, and he made animals he kidnapped anthropomorphic to serve him (this sentence has a lot of issues, they all do with this man's logic) to make this world better.

Beastials accepted the experiments they suffered, the world is built stronger, a Zootopia before Zootopia, (even creatures with gills can breathe fine with a pair of lungs?) but instead of herbivores (plant eaters) bullying predators (ominvores and carnivores), they shun humans. One xenophobia replacing another.
Hi. E: "You are different without me doing that, I did not torture you to make you this way, you are an abomination. Cut him Ram."
Ram: "I'll cut you, that will prove you noble"
Tiger: "His actions were noble"
Spider-Man (inner monologue): "These guys are nuts" (and he breaks out of his shackles. The ULTIMATE proof this is not a continuation of the other show where Spider-Man can't even unlock a chain covering him (but he broke the jacket in the Mutant Agenda), this guy is much stronger)

Spider-Man grabs the buzzsaw, pushes Ram away, punches the Vermin aside, breaks his foot shackles by punching them, jumps out of this place completely smashing the lab door, evades shots with ease, punches a heavy door bending it with one punch, tosses it with ease at three flying robots outside the complex pushing them away quite some distance before the blow up to save the three humans here to release him from captivity. (this guy is much stronger than TAS Spider-Man, their should be no denying now that these two worlds are no related)

Explosives set and blown, they escape via flying pick car, the Knights of Wundagore are after them. Intro.

Knights of Wundagor are accompanied by robots, they chase our gang as they're heading to their basement hideout. A robot is shot and flying behind, a truck driven by an ape man sees it coming front, he doesn't steer the wheel, and it hits the right side of the truck as it's heading forward on the aerial lane with no tracks. :shrug:

Spider-Man mid chase: "When can I meet the Wizard and go back to Kansas?"
Bromly: "You did. Mr High Evolutionary" (so they have the Wizard of Oz in that Earth too, Captain America can understand that reference too. Don't worry about him knowing the meeting with the Evolutionary Wizard, it will be explained later)

So High Evolutionary came here more than 5 decades ago (when he first released his mutates), him not aging further must be a result of him doing what Dr. Genus from Onepunch Man did to restore his youth and make his beasts.

Some robots are broken, a wall has fallen, three knights are holding, and Lady Vermin is pursuing.

The pick up is on the ground, rebels walk and go underground, the Vermin is sliding, a call is going, their plan succeeding.
Lord Tiger wants in, his boss tells him be still, a new team will go in.

Inside the lair, Spider-Man is impressed, guns are trained on him, John Jameson order the spy to prove himself in their secret hideout. Brilliant plan there Johnny and co.

In a warehouse on a river, Venom and Carnage scare two security guards, they trap him inside the warehouse after the guards entered thinking they meet smugglers, Carnage takes two symbiote tadpoles to place them in their necks so they can be still, this is the start of the synoptic that took too long to happen or start being explained. So maybe they want to start their own Web of Shadows here.

High Evolutionary ordered these two to capture Spider-Man (I want to know what happened after they reached Counter-Earth, like all the details), and they want to betray their new ruler.

John: "Let's see you really are Spider-Man, dodge this bullet"
Spider-Man dodges, and: "You're a jerk, just like your father"
John: "Who takes your photos?" (he told you how annoying your dad is, and this is not enough to make sure? What does High Evolutionary know about you?)
Spider-Man: "Peter Parker"
John: "Welcome. I had to make sure"

Mindless Synoptic forces are the new High Evolutionary special team, entering from the roof of a secret base with secret doors the Knights only found one of.

A fight between rebels and synopticoids, Lady Vermin is in the fight, she jumps Jameson to be pulled off by Spider-Man, and jumps the latter and gives him a kiss. :barf:

Venom and Carnage are in the lair now, they join the battle against rebels, Spider-Man activates the sonics in his new suit and all symbiotes are flushed out of the lair, including the things with the synopticoids (I made up that useless name just now), hosts are unconscious and caged.

John Jameson wants to kill their captive, Spider-Man talks him out of it by saying "The true threats know this lair and they got away, these beastials are innocent". John agrees, Bromly's wants to kill them anyway, but he holds back after receiving an order against that.

On a roof, John, Spidey, and girl rebellion talk about tags and Spidey not having one, so he can't be traced. A fight against oppression needs to happen while John is here so he can't go back, and besides, both ships are out of their reach cause one burned and the other is out of commission.
Karen gave Spider-Man a duffel with clothes that fit him so he can move inconspicuously and see things up close to know why they want him in, he takes it and swings away.

Yellow Box: "Two Days Later: The Basement..." (I thought that was the name of the rebels lair)
A robot man passes by as children play ball, a vehicle hits it and it malfunctions, considered a child a threat, almost shot it with laser. Peter passed by and saved the kid, broke the robot, burnt his hands. The kid's mom is a doctor, she offered to treat his wounds and give him an empty room rent free for two weeks.


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A reasonably fine follow up to the inferior first part.
4.5/5

I had some comments on it, but they're not all that negative, more jokes and nitpicks than complaints and criticism.
 
EPISODE 03: Where Evil Nests:


"The Basement..."
A guy is crouching and asleep, he is awakened by some noise and a sewer lid (manhole cover) being removed fast and aggressively. He looks through steam to see green tentacles moving, the sight scares him, tentacles grab him. His cape is loose, and he goes underground, taken by force.

It's been more than two weeks since the end of episode 2, Naoko is annoyed that Peter still can't afford her rent (isn't this the story of his life?), he shows her an offer in the Daily Byte for a reward for pictures of Spider-Man, her response is chances of him showing up are like the lottery, you're nuts if you ever expect to hit the jackpot (I quoted Spider-Man from the other show, I like this quote).

Shane sees this fight, he's not pleased. Little man runs away, and his mother goes for him. Parker doesn't like being this moocher, and he likes the idea of two people going out alone in the middle of the night in such dangerous place even less, he follows.

The doctor is walking down the streets, using her tracking device to find her son, green tentacles are following her. Something is following, the green slime moving under rain draining holes, the doctor calls her boy and a manhole cover is lifted up, poo gas follows, green tentacles go up and grab the doctor.

The boy is a witness, his mom is struggling. Shane is scared, his mom is resisting, she tells him to leave, and comes across Peter.
And tell him about his mother being kidnapped so we can see the intro.

Back in her apartment, Peter tells Shane to stay and lock all doors as he tries to find his mom. Turn around the corner and he switches to Spidey, swings up high to talk about slime, then swings until he reaches a lightpole to mention green slime.

Spider-Sense is ringing, pumpkin bomb is swinging. A new Goblin is here to take down the spider, believing him connected to the symbiotes.
(And the two characters are voiced by the same guy, can you tell which character is who when you listen to their lines without context?)

The Goblin chases Spider-Man, he wants to get him, the spider insignia made him believe Spidey is connected to the symbiotes (been over two weeks since Spidey came, almost seven months since the first shuttle came through, not hard to believe the Goblin knows about those, and them being elusive) and he attacks Spider-Man until he gasses him and Spidey plays possum to get to him. The two come to an agreement once 6 robot men come to enforce the law against vigilantism.

Cut back to Shane. A long time has passed for this little man, and he didn't give Peter the tracer to find her (lucky for Pete, with the Goblin on his back), and decides to go out to find his mom.

In the labyrinth of the sewers, it seems like dragging for long and over exposure to poo gas took their toll in exhausting the doctor, she did have enough strength left to grab on a metal pipe and climb up, but the green tentacles won't leave this be, it follows her and breaks the metal pipes after she climbed up, and she ran until she bumped into a synopticoid rhino that grabbed and carried her.

Back to the Goblin and the Spider, they did not start fighting off-screen while we checked on the doc for one scene, Goblin admits he was wrong about Spider-Man, Spider-Man still doesn't trust him. They fight the robots, Spider-Man jumps on and punches one pushing it a distance behind, and grabs it to toss it at three of its (walking, though they can fly :confused:) pals (the other show Spidey is not strong enough to do this).

Goblin did none of the fighting against the robots, he just tagged along with Spider-Man as he did, and they reached a cage fence when Spider-Man webbed up a shield for both him and the Goblin to hide behind (I think the green guy ran out of bombs tossing them at Spider-Man).

Spider-Man hears a kid calling his mom, looks behind to see Shane is that kid. The Goblin is worried about the boy and almost gets in range of fire, Spider-Man pulls the ally he's reluctant to be with and warns him "He'll be flash fried. An idea sparks in the Goblin's head.

Shane looks at the manhole cover, three machine men behind him, he climbs down the stares.

Goblin tosses a skull shaped bomb on their assailants and warns his reluctant ally to cover his eyes, the bomb goes off and burns their optic censors, robots blast blindly away.
Goblin: "We're safe now"
All the blindly shot laser breaks walls of the alley down on the robots and the two humans get out of the way.
Spider-Man: "Interesting definition of safe"
Goblin: "Where's Shane?"
Spidey: "He went down the sewers"
*By the manhole cover
Goblin: "Then that's where I'll go"
Spider-Man: "Not alone you won't. I still trust you as far as I can throw you one handed Goblin" (I still have no idea how they measure tossing with trust)

Down the sewers they walk, the green slime tentacles follow, Spider-Sense notifies and Goblin picks Spidey up and flies. That makes Spider-Man reconsider not trusting his new ally.
Tentacles reach up and high, and grab the Goblin of his foot, Gobby tosses Spidey away, into another hole they're not going up through.
Itsy bitsy Spidey, went down the sewer drain.

"Deep Beneath the City..."

Synoptic is upgraded after last episode, looks like a smaller version of face huggers that grabs the chest and does the Starro thing of mind control instead of it going under the skin.

Doctor Jones is famous, at least that's what Venom said. They're underground in what looks like a beehive... mine... merger. Doctor Jones thought these tunnels were destroyed, Carnage wanted people to believe that while they secretly build their new world order away from the control of the High Evolutionary, or any other party.

Symbiotes first arrived on this Earth when dinosaurs were still roaming, they took control since then for millions of years, until the meteor that killed the dinosaurs (no ice age pun, and before we were told dinosaurs are birds now), and the yellow symbiote lobsters merged together to form a hive mind... waiting for two symbiotes normally against each other... from an alternate Earth... to come and liberate them... (this makes any sense to you? No? Me neither.)

The doctor is about to become a part of the family, that's not cool.

Let's cut back to the kid in the sewers who found an unconscious Spider-Man who had no reason to be unconscious when tossed into the tunnel by the Goblin, and learns the story of Spider-Man being friends with Peter Parker.

The Goblin took his pants off to finally release himself of the green mucus symbiote, and his normal legs are green.

Doctor N is not about to be part of the family, Spider-Man shoots the thing crawling up her chest with a dart, Venom and Carnage head up to attack him, and he swings away. The two approach him again and he activates his suit's sonics... and green mucus symbiote is too much, sonics are overworked and they deactivate, slime attacks.

Spider-Man picks the Goblin family (oops, spoiler) and moves high to place them on a safety net, Shane's father comes in with a pumpkin bomb to help Spidey, and then he gets his wife and son away as he flies. Spidey has a plan.

Hostages not infected by synoptic are freed, the rest may not be as lucky. Spider-Man breaks the two looooong support columns of this place as the two maniacs climb it up, and he jumps away, leaping on debris.
Goblin comes back and takes the spider out.

Goblin is talking to his family, Naoko tells the Goblin to send a message to Spider-Man about rent. She and her son walk home, and the Goblin got away.

Spidey is taking selfies for the money reward, his new boss treats him like Jonah Jameson, episode ends.



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Things were going really good until the prehistoric symbiote thing got in the way. It drops the quality down to fairly good.

4/5, and I'm feeling a bit generous.
 
Hey, Aziz. Wow, you've been busy, lol.

So, what is it exactly that you want me to talk about? Or add to this thread?
 
Hey, Aziz. Wow, you've been busy, lol.

So, what is it exactly that you want me to talk about? Or add to this thread?
Thanks for responding to your signal. :D



The part where firefighters stop caring for a burning building to prioritize stopping one person accused of a murder of one person.
 
EPISODE 04: Deadly Choices:


One of the rebels is bandages with hair, a jacket, and goggles. He showed his ability to split to bandages when synopticoids and Lady Vermin invaded their lair in episode 2.
This episode focuses on him, a guy named Git Hoskins.

10 years ago, a bunch of human kids in the streets were garnishing a Christmas tree, one of them was in charge of placing the star on top of it, and wind blew that paper piece away until it landed in an alley around a corner (after a straight line?). Git saw Sir Ram and gave him candy, the humanoid did not care so he tossed the sugary thing away and took the kid with him.

Cut to the present, Git is chased by his abductor and a bunch of robot men on the street for stealing a mutagen called Z-99 (if you watched Spider-Man & His Amazing Friends as many times as I did you'll find this name familiar, and one of the episode writers is the writer of the episode this reminds me of).

Peter Parker is told by his boss the pictures he's getting of Spider-Man are not enough, he needs to get more than Spider-Man swinging, something up close, up personal, like his girlfriend. The boss is told to look out his window for us to see it 4 floors above the basement level (and it was much higher last episode). Parker goes out to take pictures of the event, and he goes there as Spider-Man.

Spidey runs out of webs, Git saves him from one robot and hide the canister in his belly, he runs away chased by lasers from the Knights of Wundagore (minus Lord Tiger), the trio halt their important chase to have a "friendly" chat with Spidey.

Git stole a mutagen that can be airborne and contagious Knights of Wundagor leave this pleasantry behind to continue their hunt, and a spider-tracer is attached to one of their flying jetskis. Spidey heads home for more web fluid.

Naoko got a call from her husband talking, expressing his disapproval of having another man as a tenant, she's not pleased and shots the phone.
Door bell rings, Jameson is here, Peter helps her place him on a bed and gets away from allowing Jameson to see him, he doesn't want to explain why he's here.

Peter in his room switches suits, inserts a spare cartridge in a fancy way, and leaves out the window.

Spidey meets with rebels Karen and Bromly, the canister contains explosives triggered as soon as they leave the lab, there are two hours from now before it triggers, and they were supposed to be meeting Git in the spot Spidey came across them to hear this stuff.
Spidey suggested working with the enemy, Bromly is shocked.

Later above Grid Seven, Spider-Man and a bunch of rebels meet the Knights of Wundagore sans Lord Tiger, the knights fire, rebels get away to fire back as they're being chased, Spider-Man webs the guns in the knights flying jet skis and it is now laser proof (oookaaaayyyyy).
Cease fire, all listen. Deal is done, begrudgingly.

They all go to the secret meeting site, rat lady can now smell out of the blue.
Argument... agreement... a second secret meeting place revealed.

Git has a flashback, human kids are so cruel in this world, they see a peer walking all bandaged up and they toss him with stones.
How does a genetic mutation turn one to bandages? Kid turns to bandages and move through a small hole as kids chase him to the alley to shove him with more stones.

They reach the second meeting place, Git thinks his pals are traitors.
Bombs away, get away.
Ursa grabs, Git slides.
Spidey got the canister and Gits swings to get it back.
Blow up a building.
Others dodge debris.
Cars are now wreckage.
They're ripe for the picking.

Spidey goes after Git while the rest remove the rubble, bandage man climbs up a fire escape to be chased and webbed, Spidey picks the canister...

Some stuff happen, it ends with Git changing heart for not wanting to poison the city and hands the bomb for Ram to deactivate.

Spidey photos himself getting a kiss from rat lady. :barf: The money earned from these pictures is reasons to invite Naoko and Shane to Jimmy's diner. Silhouette of unmasked Green Goblin is upset and breaks a wall with his fist, ending the episode.


..................................................


4/5

Minus the first episode, this show is having a pretty good streak thus far, there is still some goofiness in storytelling like the knights staying still while Spider-Man talks earlier, but it's fine. I guess you should expect some quality when one of the writers of Batman the Animated Series is more heavily involved in writing and production.



Oh wait, I think I forgot mentioning Carnage stealing the canister from the lab knowing exactly where to break, what spot to break, and what angle to break through to inconspicuously steal this necessary ingredient in... that thing he's cooking in an underground swamp.
 
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The part where firefighters stop caring for a burning building to prioritize stopping one person accused of a murder of one person.


Anytime, bud :)

I could talk all day about that clip just in terms of the technical aspects of the firefighting. As in what those guys were doing wrong. That's not uncommon for TV and movies to get that stuff incorrect though.

But with regard to Spider-Man, firefighters don't get involved in apprehending suspects. That's strictly law enforcement. So, if we are on scene of a fire or other incident, police are usually on scene as well. If they're not yet, we'll make radio comms and advise them of the location of a possible suspect. Especially on a fire like that, we're gonna be way too busy with our own set of problems and issues to deal with.
 
Anytime, bud :)

I could talk all day about that clip just in terms of the technical aspects of the firefighting. As in what those guys were doing wrong. That's not uncommon for TV and movies to get that stuff incorrect though.

But with regard to Spider-Man, firefighters don't get involved in apprehending suspects. That's strictly law enforcement. So, if we are on scene of a fire or other incident, police are usually on scene as well. If they're not yet, we'll make radio comms and advise them of the location of a possible suspect. Especially on a fire like that, we're gonna be way too busy with our own set of problems and issues to deal with.
:toth

I hope you enjoyed doing this like I assumed you would.
 
EPISODE 05: Steel Cold Heart:


0200 hours. Karen and Bromly communicate, she asks for status, and just as Bromly is happy that scramblers on communications don't attract the attention of robot men, he's attacked and taken by one. His truck derails with him out of it and hits an oil tanker blowing it up.

Peter and Shane stand outside a demolition site, this site is where the green booger tentacles kidnapped people from.

Babboon foreman sees the two out of the perimeter fence and goes "Stinking humans aren't allowed in here, go away"
Peter says his last name and shows him his press pass (isn't he freelance? Why does he have one?) and said "He was interested in making an article on workplace safety guide as an excuse to stay around. Forebestial allows them in cause he wants his picture to be seen in newspapers.

You might wonder why in an environment full of machines and humanoid bestials, bulldozers, forklifts, and more on site demolition machinery are replaced with animals mutated for this kind of laboring.

A bunch of old robot-men are found on site, old model number X-51. They become a distraction, the first line of machine men, been in service for two decades.

The ape says "You'll be happier recycled", and for no reason at all the servos of that machine man are activated again and decides "I want to live". Babboon foreman wants to cut it open to see what makes it tick, the robot hits the taser blowtorch out of the hand carrying it and it lands near a mole mammoth as it digs out of a hole, that scares it and it moves aside to hit a giant rhino. Rhino wants to tackle, mole mammoth goes under, rhino keeps charging and scares workers on site.

Peter does the wise thing of picking the kid he's babysitting away, he carries him most of the distance going out of site, and the mole digs out right by the fence to push them both up and they split, Peter is in the dome position aerially and Shane is pushed back inside the fence as Pete is pushed forward out of it.

Peter goes to a hole, to use his wrist watch, and goes to the mammoth mole, to hold it from killing Shane by webbing its paw and holding it.
(I get that creature going away from the torch and hiding underground, but why exit hiding to attack a kid? Some of the decisions made for this story are questionable)

Shane is too scared to move even with the time Spider-Man bought him, the four weblines are starting to break and this is when X-51 decides to move in to take the kid out of harms way. Spider-Man jumps on and bounces off the Flintstones demolition machinery to web it and slow its motion until it stops. (webbing here is stronger than it is in the previous show).

The machine man this episode focuses on lands placing the kid down, levitates to get away and is intercepted by other machine men pinning him down with lasers and.....


..................................................

I lost interest in describing the episode in detail and making remarks on stuff of it. I have to admire one Mr. Al Sjoerdsma from http://spiderfan.org, he has a lot of patience in putting too much effort in making his reviews.

I think I'll stop here by saying it looks like this episode has more negatives going on for it than prior episodes did.

3.75/5
 
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EPISODE 06: Enter of the Hunter:

Looks like another solid 90s episode about a hunter in Spider-Man's cartoon. He has a similar outfit on, but he's clearly not Kraven.

And it looks like this Spider-Man did not steal his new suit, it's revealed that he wanted it that way, so maybe Mr. Fantastic tailored it for and allowed him to have it.

...............

No complaints, but I doubt it's perfect.
4.75/5




EPISODE 07: Cry Vulture:

Vulture is a bit of a whiner, Spider-Man got unconscious way too fast, and there are some doozy moments. Still not a bad episode.

The build up for the next episode is good, the main event is reasonably good, and.... I think I forgot something important.

...............

3.75/5
I will give it credit for being a predecessor for the story of the Red Vulture in the comics




EPISODE 08: Ill Met by Moonlight:

John Jameson is the Man-Wolf, they have to take out a power plant.

Some of the animation is really more impressive than it is in other episodes, and that is something that is worth mentioning.

...............

4/5

Three episodes in a row without any mention of the syumbiotes or their synoptic plan. Maybe it's a good thing, maybe it's a bit disquieting.






So far this show is strangely better than more than half of the previous show. It's not strange that it has more consistent animation, lacks poorly matching CGI compared to the rest of the environment, and has more consistency in size, and less amount of unnecessary narration. The strange thing is how this is considered to be more of a low point in the history of Spider-Man cartoons, and it's possibly matching to Spectacular in quality thus far.

Maybe the setting that does not match Spider-Man, the unfamiliar suit, and a few more elements affected its ratings negatively.
One of the best things about the current one and Ultimate is they lack the fascination a rat lady has with a human. :barf:
 
EPISODE 09: Sustenance:

High Evolutionary captures and recycles old and tired bestials to make new ones. Green Goblin knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man and a fun exchange happens.

In the previous episode; 'Ill Met By Moonlight', Karen and John dig up information from a facility before they destroy it, John hands Spider-Man data about Solaris-2 (the ship webhead came in), they restored it after being aflame and set it ready for launch (you might want to ask why, but this is not explained), and a fight in the cockpit between Goblin and Ursa make it difficult for Spider-Man to go home like he wants, but he uses it to break the Death Star looking facility.

...............

It's mostly really good.
4.5/5




EPISODE 10: One is the Loneliest Number:

Venom is/are chased.by researcher and troops of the High Evolutionary, Venom ruins the sonic blast of Spider-Man before being separated and the villains take the symbiote away.

Eddie and the symbiote are both feeling pain, and Spider-Man feels the need to save Eddie by reuniting him with the symbiote.

One of the reminders this show is not a continuation of the previous 90s cartoon is that S.H.I.E.L.D. grabbed Venom before sending them to an insane asylum without separation (???) where Cletus was there and became Carnage.

...............

4.25/5
The backstory is a bit hokey, and kinda reflects on the previous show that was recent in memories back at the time, and was better received, but the rest of the story is certainly good





EPISODE 11: Matters of the Heart:

This episode aired before the Venom centered one, but Spider-Man references the crushed sonics device he fixed after his encounter with Venom.

Bromely wants to reunite with his long lost brother, but he's a traitor, and maybe dies in the electric eels tank (could that be something that inspired the Amazing Spider-Man 2 movie power grid?).

This episode reveals that the leading villain has telekinetic powers, the effects are invisible for those who face him according to Spider-Man's words, so you should guess that green beams coming out of his hands are artistic choice made for us to see his powers in effect and where they are directed towards.

...............

4.5/5

This stuff is going pretty good so far.





EPISODE 12: Sins of the Father:

Some backstory about the High Evolutionary, a bit more depth added to him by revealing Karen is his grand daughter. But it's not fleshed out properly.


...............

???/5

I'm not sure how I should rate it, this deserves another look.





EPISODE 13: Destiny Unleashed:

There are some questions when it comes to the symbiotes, it seems to be alluded that the two hosts were separated, but neither one is tired, so there is some inconsistency here.

The rest of the episode is pretty solid, too bad it ends on a cliffhanger.

...............

4.25/5

I wonder if they were planning an episode 14 for this season before Marvel went bankrupt, or save it for the never to happen second season.





I did not expect to see a day when this happens, a days when I say these words: This show might actually be better than Spectacular Spider-Man.
:shock:

You see my episode scores based on the quality so far, and this one season is better than most of the seasons from its predecessor. Only two episodes for this season went under the 4/5 line in score. Spectacular may have tripped a bit more than this one did.

A lot of consistency in characterization and art, fleshed out characters, likable supporting cast, no dragging dialogue and speeches, interesting setting albeit it being unfamiliar and mostly unmatching for our street level hero who is normally less of a political figure, mostly fleshed out characters...
This show deserves more love.

Some of the villains are a bit lackluster, and the abrupt ending leaves some plot threads dangling. It could have used more focus on them.

And I'll add this note about voice acting; Rino Romano never went hilariously over the top like Christopher Daniel Barnes did. He underacted at some points though, which is a shame.



Overall score:
4.25/5

I'm not taking this back.
 
Wow! Maybe I aught to take another look at this show again. I've always liked the costume from the show, the general art direction and bonkers approach. It's the furthest thing from your typical Spidey setting but it flips the script on the dynamics of his world yet Spidey is still Spidey. I feel like it generally gets hated on because of it's weird premise. That general consensus definitely influenced my views on the series before I even really watched any of it back in the early 2000s.

When I did see some episodes of the show finally I didn't find it to be that bad, and every time I see it again I warm up to it more. So maybe I should rewatch the series lol, the high concept edgy sci-fi premise is kind of appealing to me because it's another one of those situations where I doubt we'll ever get another vision quite like it on screen.

Honestly, I don't really dislike many versions of the character since they're all valid. Just some are less for me than others. Like the majority of the Ultimate cartoon I find to be near unwatchable due to its fast paced childish humor but I actually enjoy the final season, it feels like a different show. The current cartoon is alright, I feel like both of the newest cartoons try too hard to make him feel young and act hyperactive and it doesn't always feel like Peter Parker.
 
Wow! Maybe I aught to take another look at this show again.
Yeah, you probably should. I didn't think highly of it before this year, I expected it to be more mediocre than good on this view, but that was probably the stigma attached to its reputation.

By the way, your current avatar is great and well timed. Your previous one is fantastic too.
 
I watched the first 3 episodes and I don't think I can watch more.

SM:TAS was taking Spider-Man in a science fiction direction and mostly making it work very well, SMU was taking Spider-Man science fiction and not making it work at all. That it's a loose continuation of TAS with much worse writing and protagonist voice actor and that Venom and Carnage are so out-of-character makes it worse.
 

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