Comics Spidey Clean Up Crew Needed

[Venom Drool]

there is way too much clutter in the marvel universe right now, let alone spideys world. theres always something going on the is in some way earthshattering.. his introduction into the avengers set this off me thinks. i liked the idea at first but then The Other had this 12 issues series about...nothing.. and..him regrowing an eye and killing a pretty good villan. then he gets a new suit which overall.. is craptastic.. then theres a civil war and well...jesus. he has to unmask and... cant he get a break. cant all the villans and all the mystics and bull**** end for sometime. i wouldnt mind seeing some of those sensational spiderman arcs come to the major titles like ASM. More and more i see spidey not fitting on this save the world team. hes not cut out for all the politics. never was. which is one reason he avoided them. then i discover theres civil war frontline which shows us how the public is dealing with his unmasking. ive had it up to here. so inever thought id resort to it.. but right now.. im picking up USM, ASM, SSM when it suits me (upcomming arc looks promising as did the previous but was blarghed up by crappy madamne ****ty web) and at this particular period in MarvelU, CW just cause id like to know whats going on. screw all the added crap like directors cut and frontline, and friendly neighbourhood which is somewhere and nowhere in continuity? too much clutter.. too complicated and headachey to follow whats going on without dishing out 100$ in a month and a hlaf span...

 

[JackBauer]

like I said on another thread: get Brian K. Vaughan and put him in ASM. one of the best writers in the biz right now, who gets the character, and knows how to deal with continuity like few.

then, you put Kirkman on Sensational.

finally, Slott on FNSM (that idea I have to give to photojones2, who posted in another thread). he's also one of the few who can deal easily with continuity.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

i like that idea.

 

[Spade]

there is way too much clutter in the marvel universe right now, let alone spideys world. theres always something going on the is in some way earthshattering.. his introduction into the avengers set this off me thinks. i liked the idea at first but then The Other had this 12 issues series about...nothing.. and..him regrowing an eye and killing a pretty good villan. then he gets a new suit which overall.. is craptastic.. then theres a civil war and well...jesus. he has to unmask and... cant he get a break. cant all the villans and all the mystics and bull**** end for sometime. i wouldnt mind seeing some of those sensational spiderman arcs come to the major titles like ASM. More and more i see spidey not fitting on this save the world team. hes not cut out for all the politics. never was. which is one reason he avoided them. then i discover theres civil war frontline which shows us how the public is dealing with his unmasking. ive had it up to here. so inever thought id resort to it.. but right now.. im picking up USM, ASM, SSM when it suits me (upcomming arc looks promising as did the previous but was blarghed up by crappy madamne ****ty web) and at this particular period in MarvelU, CW just cause id like to know whats going on. screw all the added crap like directors cut and frontline, and friendly neighbourhood which is somewhere and nowhere in continuity? too much clutter.. too complicated and headachey to follow whats going on without dishing out 100$ in a month and a hlaf span...

It's absolultely true. If I didn't have half a brain I'd be waiting for Stan to magically announce he's taking over. At this point I'd rather regress a few years than see this 'new, unrecognizable' Spider-Man Quesada seems to be force-feeding to us all. You just know this is going to take a retcon on a Galactus-size scale to rectify the events just of Civil War, much less the rest of the 616 Spidey universe...

 

[Sloth7d]

like I said on another thread: get Brian K. Vaughan and put him in ASM. one of the best writers in the biz right now, who gets the character, and knows how to deal with continuity like few.

then, you put Kirkman on Sensational.

finally, Slott on FNSM (that idea I have to give to photojones2, who posted in another thread). he's also one of the few who can deal easily with continuity.

I think they need one writer on both, so the three titles can be consistent.
And that writer still should be Tom Defaulco.
He was the best.

 

[CConn]

like I said on another thread: get Brian K. Vaughan and put him in ASM. one of the best writers in the biz right now, who gets the character, and knows how to deal with continuity like few.

then, you put Kirkman on Sensational.

finally, Slott on FNSM (that idea I have to give to photojones2, who posted in another thread). he's also one of the few who can deal easily with continuity.

Personally, I'd say Aguirre-Sacasa is doing a good enough job where I wouldn't take him off the title unless he requested it. But other than that, damn good choices.

I think they need one writer on both, so the three titles can be consistent.
And that writer still should be Tom Defaulco.
He was the best.

But do we really want that consistancy? I mean, one of the best things about having more than one book for a character, IMO, is how you can see different aspects of the character, in each different book. If you have one writer on more than one book, it basically turns into little more than one, bi-weekly, series.

 

[3dman27]

have you triedMARVEL ADVENTURES SPIDER-MAN ?
thats free of this web spinning avenger civil war stuff

 

[MyPokerShirt]

i like FNSM atm. think more of you should give it a go as it is.

 

[Venom Drool]

point is, amazing spiderman has been the core title since his birth, and youd think it should be the best out of the three. but with constant rotating artists and writers leaving and coming back on books, and overdone collaboration with all the 'top' writers in marvel u, the story just looks the same as it did months back. theres little to no progress simply because you can assume (ad assume correctly) what the upcooming arc will accomplish. (ala unmasking spidey). now you know hell switch sides to cap america. and now you know they are trying to bring back all the classic villans. but... it just isnt the same anymore. instead of them yelling.. ill get you spiderman.. theyll say... ill get you and your family parker. bah, i hope norman wipes everyones memory of the spidey unmasking with some dumb ray gun

 

[SpideyInATree]

like I said on another thread: get Brian K. Vaughan and put him in ASM. one of the best writers in the biz right now, who gets the character, and knows how to deal with continuity like few.

then, you put Kirkman on Sensational.

finally, Slott on FNSM (that idea I have to give to photojones2, who posted in another thread). he's also one of the few who can deal easily with continuity.

Personally, if Quesada would have been a little more smarter, and this was one of his dumber moves, but he lost Geoff Johns. You see what Geoff Johns did for The Flash? Imagine what that man could have done with Spider-man.

Nuff Said.

As for Vaughn. He's fine on Runaways as is. And Y The Last Man is freakin' fantastic. Let him focus on those two great pieces of work.

Remember Jeph Loeb will be writing an ongoing Spidey book in 2007. You know, the same guy who wrote Spider-Man: Blue.

 

[JackBauer]

Personally, if Quesada would have been a little more smarter, and this was one of his dumber moves, but he lost Geoff Johns. You see what Geoff Johns did for The Flash? Imagine what that man could have done with Spider-man.

Nuff Said.

man, Geoff Johns in Spidey would've been fantastic. he could've dealt with this better than the team of morons in the Spider-books right now could ever dream of.

As for Vaughn. He's fine on Runaways as is. And Y The Last Man is freakin' fantastic. Let him focus on those two great pieces of work.

are you kidding me? we can never have enough Vaughan!

Remember Jeph Loeb will be writing an ongoing Spidey book in 2007. You know, the same guy who wrote Spider-Man: Blue.

meh, Blue was cool and all, but I find Loeb painfully overrated. he's gonna ruin The Ultimates, along with Madureira.

 

[Sloth7d]

But do we really want that consistancy? I mean, one of the best things about having more than one book for a character, IMO, is how you can see different aspects of the character, in each different book. If you have one writer on more than one book, it basically turns into little more than one, bi-weekly, series.

But look at the three books now. Their stories are all over the place. And they can't seem to get one right.
Current titles=
FNM=Tries too hard
SSM=Just not good
AMS=Does'nt try hard enogh, making most stories....*yawn*....*goes to sleep*......Huh?....I'm up...I'm up!

Eitherway, I'd just be happy if I saw Defaulco on AMS again. He was pure genius.

 

[CConn]

All that argument proves is that the Spider-Man titles need better writers. Except for SSM. That's been fantastic so far, IMO.

In any case, if Loeb's on ASM and can rise to his former glory (and that's a big if considering how mediocre he's been of late), I'll be more or less happy. Brian K. Vaughan would be perfect for a title also. It may be too big of a workload for him, though.

 

[Venom Drool]

main issue is that we got writers jumping on and off the titles and artists coming and going and that isnt any good for any book if its to last. it feels like youre reading a new book every issue as deodato disapears then re appears and we got jenkins wannabes coming here and there, everyone taking a shot at the most popular hero of the last 5 or so years. garg. whatever. ill keep getting USM and picking up arcs whenever they interest. it would make sense for others to do the same, but iunderstand the urge to collect a title from start to finish... but the urge is quickly fading and is saving me a pretty penny too.

 

[Venom Drool]

main issue is that we got writers jumping on and off the titles and artists coming and going and that isnt any good for any book if its to last. it feels like youre reading a new book every issue as deodato disapears then re appears and we got jenkins wannabes coming here and there, everyone taking a shot at the most popular hero of the last 5 or so years. garg. whatever. ill keep getting USM and picking up arcs whenever they interest. it would make sense for others to do the same, but iunderstand the urge to collect a title from start to finish... but the urge is quickly fading and is saving me a pretty penny too.

 

[Sloth7d]

My dreamline of writers for the spiderman story arcs.

FrankMiller on SSM

Fiona Avery on FHSM

and

Tom Defaulco on AMSM

 

[spideylover89]

But look at the three books now. Their stories are all over the place. And they can't seem to get one right.
Current titles=
FNM=Tries too hard
SSM=Just not good
AMS=Does'nt try hard enogh, making most stories....*yawn*....*goes to sleep*......Huh?....I'm up...I'm up!

Eitherway, I'd just be happy if I saw Defaulco on AMS again. He was pure genius.

I agree with the first and third one, but SSM kicks ass. The whole Stegron climax may have been a bit disappointing, but the story was still good and the latest issue with Doc Ock was excellent. It actually payed attention to continuity...Big Shocker!

 

[Venom Drool]

SSM is going smoothly simply because its going back to its roots.. but its shadowed by the new costume and the CW crap thats going on. its making his most awesome..most intersting villans seem flat because they keep hitting us with 'earth shattering life altering' events like Sins Past, The Other, CW... most of which could have easily not have happened....

 

[Sloth7d]

I agree with the first and third one, but SSM kicks ass. The whole Stegron climax may have been a bit disappointing, but the story was still good and the latest issue with Doc Ock was excellent. It actually payed attention to continuity...Big Shocker!

AuntMay: OMG! MaryJane, why is that knife in your hand?
end quote

BlackCat: Wait. peter I don't feel this way towards you!
Spiderman: Yeah whats going on?
end quote
........................Comic guy from Simsons:Worst story ever!

 

[spideylover89]

........................Comic guy from Simsons:Worst story ever!

Okay now that's a stretch. Your'e trying to tell me Feral is worse than Sins Past, The Other, Sins Remembered, Avengers Disassembled (spectacular spidey), and Hobgoblin 2211? No way

 

[Sloth7d]

Okay now that's a stretch. Your'e trying to tell me Feral is worse than Sins Past, The Other, Sins Remembered, Avengers Disassembled (spectacular spidey), and Hobgoblin 2211? No way

Okay Thats the worst story ever. Alternate Ben Parker just die already.

 

[spideylover89]

See I knew you could be swayed

 

[JackBauer]

My dreamline of writers for the spiderman story arcs.

FrankMiller on SSM

Fiona Avery on FHSM

and

Tom Defaulco on AMSM

"Peter: Are you dense? Are you ******ed or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I'm the goddamn Spider-Man!"

"MJ: Uuuh... I know!"

thanks, but no thanks. when Miller stops sucking, maybe he could do a mini, but never an ongoing, specially now.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

oh come awwwwwn! thats a brilliant line! he added humour to a batman book! humour!!!

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Okay now that's a stretch. Your'e trying to tell me Feral is worse than Sins Past, The Other, Sins Remembered, Avengers Disassembled (spectacular spidey), and Hobgoblin 2211? No way

feral was amazingly boring. and the problem was a rock? a rock??? feck off. FNSM is exploring aunt may ( no jokes) and her character, the dialogue is brillaint and its using one of spidey's enemies that isnt so well known. i think PAD is doin a great job. last sensational was a good ish but FNSM is gonna be the fun title, i can tell i preferred sensational as MKSM- that was good