Comics Spidey rules

[Donald Thomas]

Aloha,
This story first appeared in the Nov. 21 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

Much has been made of the arms race between Disney's Marvel Studios and Warner Bros.' DC Comics to create superhero movies through 2020. Less debated is a key financial underpinning of the war: Licensing revenue generates tens of billions of dollars for Hollywood companies, and DC needs a heroic effort to catch Marvel in licensing profits.
On Oct. 15, Warners CEO Kevin Tsujihara said that if he can close the current gap by half, the studio could earn an additional $150 million a year in profits. How big is the gap? In May, License Global placed Disney first among licencors with sales of about $41 billion in 2013; Warners was seventh with $6 billion. Both have strong properties: The Licensing Letter listed Marvel's Spider-Man global retail sales at $1.3 billion and Avengers at $325 million in 2013, compared with DC's Batman at $494 million and Superman at $277 million.

This is why comic books can have a low print run but yet stay in business as a product. The comic book character is a name brand unto themselves.But when we look at the numbers here, you see what I've been telling you for years now.
SPIDEY RULES

 

[spiderman2]

Aloha,
This story first appeared in the Nov. 21 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

Much has been made of the arms race between Disney's Marvel Studios and Warner Bros.' DC Comics to create superhero movies through 2020. Less debated is a key financial underpinning of the war: Licensing revenue generates tens of billions of dollars for Hollywood companies, and DC needs a heroic effort to catch Marvel in licensing profits.
On Oct. 15, Warners CEO Kevin Tsujihara said that if he can close the current gap by half, the studio could earn an additional $150 million a year in profits. How big is the gap? In May, License Global placed Disney first among licencors with sales of about $41 billion in 2013; Warners was seventh with $6 billion. Both have strong properties: The Licensing Letter listed Marvel's Spider-Man global retail sales at $1.3 billion and Avengers at $325 million in 2013, compared with DC's Batman at $494 million and Superman at $277 million.

This is why comic books can have a low print run but yet stay in business as a product. The comic book character is a name brand unto themselves.But when we look at the numbers here, you see what I've been telling you for years now.
SPIDEY RULES

Yeah I saw this a few months back just shows that people really love sm and that the movies are not a good indecation of how much people love him and even though asm1 and 2 didn't do while if another super heros had 3 so so bad movies in a row and a reboot that people didn't want they would have done even a lot worse then asm1 and 2 did. Also the crazy thing is that if you added avengers, batman and superman numbers form this it comes out to about 1.1 billion witch is still lower then sm 1.3 billion.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Also the crazy thing is that if you added avengers, batman and superman numbers form this it comes out to about 1.1 billion witch is still lower then sm 1.3 billion.

Aloha,
That's the crazy part.One character has greater popularity than several of the biggest characters in comic books.It also shows that the character is greater than any one movie, comic book or story arc.

The aggregate sales of the top 300 comics was approximately 6,728,249 units in November 2014, down around 1,680,831 units from the record breaking total for October 2014 during the final order era. With "Star Wars" #1 reported to be selling over a million units next month, December will probably have recorded shattering sales for the top 300 comics. The top comics total for November was about 218,680 units above the average for the final order era but an estimated 139,295 units below the average for the prior twelve months.

Topping the list was "Amazing Spider-Man" #9 with 135,280 estimated units and kicked off the start of the Spider-Verse storyline. Since Spider-Verse is limited to just the Spider-Man family of titles, it isn't an event. The storyline has no immediate impact on any titles outside of the Spider-Man group of titles whereas and event typically has a direct impact either on the majority of titles or the majority of the characters features in active titles at the time. "Spider-Verse Team-Up" #1 sold an estimated 35,449 units to retailers which is less than half of the 71,232 units for "Spider-Verse" #1. "Amazing Spider-Man" #10 is also on the list with around 100,899 units which is a drop of about 25.41% from the prior issue but about 1,350 units about "Amazing Spider-Man" #8. Effectively, the sales bump from the Spider-Verse storyline lasted a single issue with only a percentage point or so of a gain in sales after that.

"Spider-Woman" #1 launched with approximately 93,723 units, which is a strong starting point for a new ongoing series. "Scarlet Spiders" #1 launched around 36,281 units, indicative of it being a secondary miniseries subordinate to the core "Spider-Verse" title. "Spider-Man 2099" #6 was also part of the Spider-Verse storyline and sold around 38,634 units, down around 5.49% from the previous issue of that series. Often a crossover storyline like Spider-Verse will increase sales on tie-in issues but that clearly did not happen in this case.

One of the problems with Spider-Man is that it's hard to outdo himself.Would a new writer improve things? Time will tell. I haven't heard any rumors that Slott is on the way out.

Spidey rules

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spidey has rules?




The character really is Amazing.
And I thought people's interest was starting to slip.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Spidey has rules?




The character really is Amazing.
And I thought people's interest was starting to slip.

Aloha,
One of the reasons I put this up is to assure those on and beyond these boards that Spidey's popularity is alive and very well.
I know some die hard fans have issues with the current comics but never think that any one message board outweighs the popularity of Spidey nationally or internationally. Superman,Batman and the Avengers COMBINED can't beat his popularity TODAY.
Spidey rules

 

[Themanofbat]

Never doubted his popularity for a second...

Donald, just to be clear... it's not just Spidey comics I'm having problems with... it's ALL comics... after 40 years of buying, I think I need a break.

Aloha.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

Never doubted his popularity for a second...

Donald, just to be clear... it's not just Spidey comics I'm having problems with... it's ALL comics... after 40 years of buying, I think I need a break.

Aloha.

agreed with all of the above, except for one thing... I've BEEN taking that break for MONTHS now... and from the way the industry is, at this point, I think that it's at long-last, a PERMANENT vacation...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The comics are no issue to me, I will probably enjoy the current stories if I sit down and read them.

Strange, now that it's been 8 months since Peter's mentality returned to pages and a lot of things happened with him, I still consider his "death" in issue 700 to be actual and permanent, and don't see myself try to collect them anymore.
Perhaps I will get to what I currently overlook after the full scale Marvel Comics reboot.

 

[Themanofbat]

If it is indeed a Marvel reboot, that's a good jumping "off" point for me...
I had NO interest in Ultimate Peter Parker, I'll feel even less for "nouveau-Peter"...

 

[Donald Thomas]

Aloha,
As I listen to many on these boards, it appears that many people buy multiple titles every month. At some point, yes, you need a break. And even if it's for months or even years, when you are ready to return, the character will still be there. That's why trades and HC are so important. You could take a break for a few years and come back through a few trades and be right back in the fold. Or you could REDUCE the amount of titles you read so as not to get the burn out.Now in some cases it's a case of The Title needs a new team.. I completely understand that.
Spidey rules

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

Aloha,
As I listen to many on these boards, it appears that many people buy multiple titles every month. At some point, yes, you need a break. And even if it's for months or even years, when you are ready to return, the character will still be there. That's why trades and HC are so important. You could take a break for a few years and come back through a few trades and be right back in the fold. Or you could REDUCE the amount of titles you read so as not to get the burn out.Now in some cases it's a case of The Title needs a new team.. I completely understand that.
Spidey rules

I've been saying it for MONTHS now... Dan Slott and company have GOT to GO... Slott has outstayed his welcome for FAR too long... he's been lazy and complacent in his writing and the art chores need a fresh new change and look... depending on who their replacements are, it MIGHT bring me back to the book... MIGHT...