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Superman Returns SR in TIME mag's Summer Preview

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  1. Tron5000

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    (sorry if this was already posted. didn't see it if so)

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1186570-2,00.html


    SUPERMAN RETURNS

    Starring: Brandon Routh, Kate Bosworth. Release date: June 30. What the first four made: $318 million

    THE CHALLENGE The problem with Superman is that he doesn't have enough problems. He can pretty much do anything—dude has superbreath—and apart from the kryptonite thing, he's pretty much invulnerable. And oh, my stars, what a do-gooder. Where's the inner conflict? Or the outer conflict, for that matter? He's not dark and troubled like Batman or Wolverine, or cute and clueless like Spider-Man.

    WHAT'S NEW You can't openly monkey with the Superman mythology--there are probably federal laws against it—so to reinvent him director Bryan Singer (The Usual Suspects, the X-Men movies) went subtle, quietly tweaking canonical story lines to roil Supe's placid emotional waters. When the movie opens, Big Blue has been gone for five years, and he gets back to find that Lois Lane has a new guy (!) and a kid (!!). Now, wouldn't that ruffle your spit curl?

    THE BUZZ The set radiated bad p.r.: there were rumors of reshoots and wild budget overruns (the reported cost is a mighty $185 million). And do comic-book fans really care if Superman is a lover as well as a fighter? New guy Routh fills out the blue tights, and Spacey looks like a deliciously loony Lex Luthor, but Clark Kent might need to find a new beat. —By Lev Grossman



    Not exactly a ringing endorsement, is it?
     
    #1 Tron5000, Apr 26, 2006
  2. M.O.Steel

    M.O.Steel Wayne Inc. Tech Support

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    interesting...
     
    #2 M.O.Steel, Apr 26, 2006
  3. BareKnucklez

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    Yeah doesn't sound like that guys to thrilled about the new movie...
     
    #3 BareKnucklez, Apr 26, 2006
  4. ruhanv

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    I think everybody noticed the photo and not the article itself which is quite negative.

    I have been following this production for years now and unless I am talking out of my ass, there has been 1 rumour of a budget overrun and ZERO reports of reshoots. Where is this idiot getting his information from?
     
    #4 ruhanv, Apr 26, 2006
  5. JackBauer

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    the guy's obviously not a fan of Superman... I stopped when I read "he's not dark and troubled like Batman and Wolverine".

    not every superhero has to be "dark and troubled", jackass... :rolleyes:
     
    #5 JackBauer, Apr 26, 2006
  6. That-Guy

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    Probably that ass hole from Page 6 or something.
     
    #6 That-Guy, Apr 26, 2006
  7. Tron5000

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    He disses on SR, then he says X3 may suffer from losing Brian Singer. That's kinda contradictory. I don't like TIME anyway, so this isn't a huge surprise.
     
    #7 Tron5000, Apr 26, 2006
  8. PWN3R

    PWN3R Instagram:@Mannie_Bothans

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    Just comparing Superman to Wolverine.....that guy should be shot. :( :down
     
    #8 PWN3R, Apr 26, 2006
  9. I SEE SPIDEY

    I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    I wouldn't be that harsh, but I understand his concerns. Superman has always come off to me as a very bland character.
     
    #9 I SEE SPIDEY, Apr 26, 2006
  10. PWN3R

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    No...no one can ever compare a character like Superman to ****Everine....:(


    He doesn't know what he is talking about.
     
    #10 PWN3R, Apr 26, 2006
  11. Tron5000

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    An alien from another planet who symbolizes all of the good in humanity and has powers beyond those of damn near any other superhero out there. Flies, can move mountains, sees through things, vulnerable to very few things, lives an entirely different life as a normal human being...sounds pretty bland to me.
     
    #11 Tron5000, Apr 26, 2006
  12. I SEE SPIDEY

    I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    Personally, I think that Wolverine is totally played out and that the movie Wovlerine (I really enjoy Hugh Jackman BTW) is just a wimpified version of the character. I would like to see the short (not as short as the comicbook character) angry kick ass Wolve but oh well, If Time thinks that the movie character is hardcore... whatever.
     
    #12 I SEE SPIDEY, Apr 26, 2006
  13. I SEE SPIDEY

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    Some people don't find the character all that exciting, deal with it. I happen to love Lex, and Supes adventures but I've never been in love with the character and do find it kinda boring.
     
    #13 I SEE SPIDEY, Apr 26, 2006
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    Another clueless person who thinks that a character has to be an Agnsty teen or a badass anti hero to have any appeal.
     
    #14 Mentok, Apr 26, 2006
  15. Mentok

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    Well to be fair, there was no way to get the real comic book version of Logan into a PG-13 film... Unless you went all arty with black and white and only showed 10% of the things he was doing (or people he was killing :D )

    On a side note, I hope the people involved with the Wolverine film go and watch some Akira Kurosawa films before getting to work :up:
     
    #15 Mentok, Apr 26, 2006
  16. I SEE SPIDEY

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    No.
     
    #16 I SEE SPIDEY, Apr 26, 2006
  17. Jamiew

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    I love all the Superman movies!! Screw him!
     
    #17 Jamiew, Apr 26, 2006
  18. \S/JcDc\S/

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    Already been done at The Planet. Don't feel like reading through the same old stuff. Eh
     
    #18 \S/JcDc\S/, Apr 26, 2006
  19. Metropolis_Man

    Metropolis_Man Mister Doctor?

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    I'd even say mediocre at best :up: . Oh well, not everyone is going to like it.
     
    #19 Metropolis_Man, Apr 26, 2006
  20. ohmshalone

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    This reminds me of that NY Times guy who also got a lot of stuff wrong
     
    #20 ohmshalone, Apr 26, 2006
  21. Superman4ever

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    Yeah, I read the article yesterday, and it was upsetting. The guy just doesn't understand Superman, and is grossly misunderstood on his characterization. He doesn't have to be an anti-hero or a stupid teen with a sharp tongue--even though Superman was a trash-talker at one point in time-- to be interesting or appealing to a massive audience.

    All the Prophets of G-d were good men that did miraculous things, and I don't see their stories going away anytime soon.

    I think come June 30th all Superman fans are going to be vindicated and all doubts will be laid to rest. This movie is going to be huge, and if some prick from Time can’t see that, then tough!
     
    #21 Superman4ever, Apr 26, 2006
  22. Mentok

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    Im talking about the guy that wrote the article.
     
    #22 Mentok, Apr 26, 2006
  23. musclesforsupes

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    Told you guys that usa today pic would be bad :(

    The set radiated bad p.r.:
     
    #23 musclesforsupes, Apr 26, 2006
  24. Whack Arnolds

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    Legitimate concerns, and from what I gather from most...the general consensus of the modern day audience. Not many seem to be interested in Superman, as opposed to Spider-Man, Batman, X-Men etc.
     
    #24 Whack Arnolds, Apr 26, 2006
  25. newmexneon

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    Of course a Batman and Wolvie fan is gonna diss on Supes 'cause he's not "Cool". "He's not dark and troubled like Batman or Wolverine" those two characteristics are very Un-heroic to me and is the reason I don't read either characters books, Heroes are supposed to instill hope in people, not fear.
     
    #25 newmexneon, Apr 26, 2006
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