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Strange New Worlds Star Trek: Strange New Worlds - General Discussion Thread

Oh, interesting. It seems my information on that is out-of-date a bit. I think I was thinking of the WW2 practices before nursing involved a university degree. It seems to be tied to whether they have a university degree or not. RNs (who hold bachelors' degrees) are commissioned officers and it seems the old RPNs (who have/had associate degrees) are disqualified basically.

I did a quick Google check to be sure. But I admit that my first source of info was… M*A*S*H reruns. :D On that show, most of the nurses seemed to be lieutenants. And of course, Margaret Houlihan was a major. However, I’m not sure that a bachelor of nursing degree existed back in the Korean War… :shrug:
 
Since we’ve been talking about ranks and uniform insignia, I paid extra attention to this latest episode. So, yeah, Number One is definitely a lieutenant commander; and she sports two thick stripes on her cuffs. M’Benga and Chapel must, likewise, be lieutenant commanders — as they have the same insignia. (Though… since they’re usually referred to as “doctor” and “nurse,” their ranks are less conspicuous/problematic. :ninja:) Also, I noticed that Lieutenant Kirk has only one (thick) cuff stripe. This (finally!) is consistent with prior Treks and the Memory Alpha articles. But it’s internally inconsistent with SNW. I.e., Spock, Noonien-Singh and Ortegas (also lieutenants) wear two (thick + thin) cuff stripes. Now, possibly, Kirk is a lieutenant junior grade. But it seems odd to have a rank/insignia for a lowly Lt. JG and yet no rank (that we’ve seen) for a full commander.

As previously mentioned, Trek has a long history of messing up character ranks. Indeed, it’s almost an endearing idiosyncrasy at this point. So, in a way, it’s good that SNW is keeping with tradition. :cwink:
Yea I see their stripes more now that we've been discussing it. I am hoping we hear their titles more so we can tell what is associated with what better.

No, it isn't. M'Benga has two thick stripes as well. The stripes have nothing to do with position. They are related to rank and always have been.

SNW is simply using a different stripe system from past Trek series. If Una was wearing the stripes of a full commander just because she is first officer as you are suggesting, that doesn't explain why everyone else's stripes are wrong based on the old system.

Spock, La'an, Hemmer, etc. all have the one thin, one thick stripe that used to denoted a lieutenant commander and they all have the rank of lieutenant.
Well only thing I could think is Una is first officer and is wearing those stripes because of it. That or the stripes are wrong. Guess we have to wait and see what they call each other in other episodes.
 
I'm expecting this now. This is becoming what feels like a setup for a remake of the original series. It's basically an excuse to make the original 1960s produced series irrelevant. The first glimpse of this was the casting for the La'an Noonien-Sign character. There is no reason for this character to be in this series, let allow the character to be a Starfleet officer serving on the Enterprise with Spock, Uhura, and in season 2, most likely with Kirk. Now Akiva Goldsman has hinted Khan might be introduced at some point soon. I have no doubt this show is basically being set up for Kirk vs Khan with La'an being conflicted about which side she'll take. Then this will bring in another spin-off show focused on Khan. There is no creative thinking in Star Trek anymore. There is no one who wants to truly respect this franchise anymore. It's all being remade for no good reason.

Goldman and Kurtzman say they are big fans of Star Trek but to me, it seems that they want to redo what came before and rethink what Star Trek is. They'll say they will honor what came before because they are fans but they don't care. This was oblivious from the very first season of STD. Star Trek now is violence, swearing, modern-day dialogue, and member-berries.

God, how I miss people like Rick Berman, Jeri Taylor, and Ira Steven Behr overseeing Star Trek.


From your mouth to their ears............


Nicholas Meyer's forthcoming Khan-centric TV series prequel Ceti Alpha V could instead become a podcast, according to this Trekmovie article by Anthony Pascale.
Nicholas Meyer’s ‘Ceti Alpha V’ Khan Prequel Series May Become Star Trek Podcast
 
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So the guy who is playing Sam Kirk isn't going to be playing James Kirk too?
 
So the guy who is playing Sam Kirk isn't going to be playing James Kirk too?

No. Paul Wesley is James T. Kirk. Dan Jeannotte is George Sam Kirk. It appears they aren't doing the TOS gimmick of having Shatner play both characters.
 
Speaking of confusing rank insignia... Someone (via Twitter/TrekBBS) posted a "helpful" reference guide:

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No. Paul Wesley is James T. Kirk. Dan Jeannotte is George Sam Kirk. It appears they aren't doing the TOS gimmick of having Shatner play both characters.
Ah gotcha, thanks thought I was fooled by the mustache and it might be the same lol.

Speaking of confusing rank insignia... Someone (via Twitter/TrekBBS) posted a "helpful" reference guide:

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that seems about right lol.
 
They should have used CG to de-age Shatner and have him come back to play Sam lol.
 
Speaking of confusing rank insignia... Someone (via Twitter/TrekBBS) posted a "helpful" reference guide:

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So going from Ensign to Admiral, you start off with no stripes and end with no stripes. Someone could mistake an older ensign for an Admiral then.
 
I wonder if they will show Nurse Chapel meeting and becoming engaged to Roger Corby to line up with the Original Series episode "What are little girls made of?". That would mean she would have to meet him fairly soon. But what of her feelings for Spock? Maybe they'll say that she merely agreed to marry Corby because she thought there couldn't be anything between her and Spock but her heart wasn't really into Corby deep down.

And Nurse Chapel's white uniform really needs to be blue.

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I wonder if they will show Nurse Chapel meeting and becoming engaged to Roger Corby to line up with the Original Series episode "What are little girls made of?". That would mean she would have to meet him fairly soon. But what of her feelings for Spock? Maybe they'll say that she merely agreed to marry Corby because she thought there couldn't be anything between her and Spock but her heart wasn't really into Corby deep down.

And Nurse Chapel's white uniform really needs to be blue.

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She might know him already, she is on the enterprise as a civilian exchange. So it might be like an intership from school. But she meets him at school. But knowing this show T'pring will probably introduce them to each other because she is jealous of her and Spock being so close. Yeah this show doesn't get Vulcans so they would do something like this.
 
Question, how seriously important is it to make this show line up to subplots such as that from The Original Series considering how much they've veered off the path so far?

Especially when this show is clearly setting up Spock/Chapel as a long-term will they/won't they ship.
 
Speaking of confusing rank insignia... Someone (via Twitter/TrekBBS) posted a "helpful" reference guide:

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That's even more confusing, lol :D


just saw this don't know if it was posted already


I also want to say, I love the props, production, set design for the show. I feel like they pulled the slider back from the Abrams films. It looks familiar to the old material, but still looks more advanced.

I especially like that the Enterprise, digital devices still have buttons and switches.

The Enterprise also just looks comfy and stunning. I'd just like to walk around this Enterprise and explore it.
 
Question, how seriously important is it to make this show line up to subplots such as that from The Original Series considering how much they've veered off the path so far?

Especially when this show is clearly setting up Spock/Chapel as a long-term will they/won't they ship.
For the showrunners I would say not important at all. For the fans I would say mixed. I am of the mind that the lore and cannon should be consistent. If they wanted to change so much they should have just did what the older Trek shows used to do. Start in a time after the previous series and progress the lore by adding to it. Like TNG did with TOS, then DS9 did with TNG. Each one moved the lore forward and enhanced on what we had before. The klingons were fleshed out in TNG, the cardassians and bajorans were fleshed out in DS9. We also got a new big bad in the dominion.

This show has the problem of its setting and makeup of the crew. They threw in too many familiar faces. So now they do more harm than good by trying to be creative with the lore. They also don't have the threat. We know more than half of the crew survive. If they just kept the trio we saw in Discovery, Una, Spock, and Pike and a whole new crew then they could do more interesting things. Like oh no the landing party is stranded do they live or die? Or these crewman are captured who survives? Someone has to stay behind to do the manual control, oh no what happens? These are just general dumb plots that create some suspense, but you get the idea. Anytime we see Pike on the bridge against another ship we know he is ok and by proxy the Enterprise as well. So really they are backed into a corner. That is just the showrunners being to lazy to create new lore that fits, and trying to use nostalgia to sell their show instead.
 
This is just my personal opinion, and while I'd call myself a casual fan of the original series, I'm totally fine if they experiment and go in some new directions for some series and veer off the path. I'd just rather they not try to continue directly connecting to the original so IE the series finale is like the first scene of the very original series.

I would prefer they not be so slavish to the original.
 
This is just my personal opinion, and while I'd call myself a casual fan of the original series, I'm totally fine if they experiment and go in some new directions for some series and veer off the path. I'd just rather they not try to continue directly connecting to the original so IE the series finale is like the first scene of the very original series.

I would prefer they not be so slavish to the original.
New directions are fine, they have about 10 years to do what they want I think before TOS so there is lots to explore. They don't need to bump into all the TOS stuff we know.
 
latest episode had me notice something about the medical scanners. M'binga uses it multiple times then I realized it is upside down. So looking back at the other episodes sure enough he and everyone else holds the scanner this way too.
The left side of the picture is bones using the medical scanner, the part that spins is what he points at the patient. In SNW you see in one episode that the light is actually a panel that they use to program the scanner. It still has the part that spins, but SNW holds that part as the handle and uses the light as the scanner.mecial scanner.png

My only theory is that they got confused. If you look at this picture it's from the prop maker showing off their tricorder. They have a scanner that comes out the bottom and it uses a light on the end. So I think this is what confused the cast on the medical scanner. They used the light on both devices as the scanner. Even though one, the little black one, is their creation for this show. And the other, big white one, is the replica new version of the original series. So the spinning part is supposed to be the part you point at things. That explains why M'binga didn't get unusual readings in this last episode he was pointing it at himself, lol.SNW scanner.png
 
Could be like wifi or Bluetooth devices. Doesnt matter what direction it's pointing. Only that it's near the patient.
 
Could be like wifi or Bluetooth devices. Doesnt matter what direction it's pointing. Only that it's near the patient.
I think it is just a mistake that since one of their scanners uses the light as the scanner, the actors thought both use them. So they just point the light. Here is a labeled picture of the original which this white one is based off of. It is from the technical manual.medical scanner.PNG
 

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