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ASM #557 - the Amazing Spider-Mail

"Will any of you be pleased? Can any of you be pleased? Where will you be pleased? Only YOU can answer those questions...and when you do, we'll run as many answers as we can right here in the Amazing Spider-Mail.....
....Thanks again to everyone for joining us so far...Now go get readin'! Go get angry! and go get typin'!" Viva Templar! -Simperin' Steve, 3/25/08

[email protected]
 
And here's my letter.




Well I can only speak for myself on this subject, but hopefully you guys will take this letter among all other under consideration if you're asking what it will take to be please us.

Through JMS's run on Spider-Man and on various lower tier Spider books during that time period (Peter Parker, Spectacular, Unlimited MK/Sensational, and Friendly Neighborhood) I for the most part was satisfied. I even enjoyed certain stories that didn't receive warm receptions such as Sins Past. I also loved that in the past few years Spider-Man's significance with the superhero community and the Marvel Universe has increased. That only made sense since he's Marvel's flagship character.

Now on the subject of One More Day and Brand New Day. From the beginning I dreaded this story being told. Joe Quesada once again made comments about doing away with the marriage and bringing Spider-Man back to his roots. Don't get me wrong I'm indifferent about Mary Jane and the marriage as a whole, but I also felt that without it really hurting the stories that it would be bad for anyone to go out of their way to break them up. Mary Jane seemingly died in a plane explosion a few years back, and people just kept asking when she'll be back. I also feared that with the talks of Spider-Man going to his "roots" would mean regression to his character and status quo. This is the same man that said that as long as he's in charge Ultimate Spider-Man will stay in highschool. He would also use Ultimate Spider-Man as his rationale to keep him single. He also said at a panel at Wizard World in 2006 that if he's dating Kitty Pryde in the Ultimate Universe there's no reason he can't do that in the Marvel Universe.

Well, why would I need to continue reading USM when I'm getting more of the same three times a month with Amazing Spider-Man? Comics aren't getting cheaper, so maybe I should just drop Amazing altogether when it's just cheaper to read Ultimate Spider-Man. This is just like Vince McMahon ressurecting ECW, and treating it like an alternat product, then just making it the third WWE brand.

So now we've got three versions of Spider-Man (Marvel Adventures also) that for the time being won't grow or evolve beyond a certain status quo, when this is a character that since the beginning was all about change and moving forward. Well he's back to living with his aunt, taking pictures for the Bugle, and single but his romantic escapades won't add up to anything to the story since we know any girl he's with won't last.

Also why take away his new powers from The Other? Not only were the majority of them not given any attention since the last issue of that crossover, but such a big deal was made out of it in the months leading up to it. Yes, I admit the wrist stingers might've been a bit much but writers don't always have to undo things they don't like just not give that so much focus when telling the story. The same with the marriage.

And on to undoing the unmasking. This I think causes the most problems due to it not being a self contained event, but something the entire world saw. To say that everyone remembers Spider-Man unamasking but not who it was just doesn't fly. The fact that people remember it happening, but no one remembering who did it should have them questioning why they don't recall it. And this sort of manipulation on a worldwide scale. Also after Aunt May got shot, I felt Peter did a good job of establishing he wasn't someone to mess with. I know that wouldn't stop the occasional nut coming after his loved ones, but enough of Spider-Man's villains knew who he was and went after friends and family from time to time. What about the new identity Peter set up for himself in Friendly Neighborhood? Ofcourse people knew Peter was Spider-Man, but it wasn't common knowledge that Peter was Ben Reilly.

Next Harry Osborn coming back. Why? I read a quote or two from Quesada saying the book was more fun with him around. Really? I always saw him as just another of Peter's friends only this one was fashioned to become a villain after his father's death. After he died he still had a few traps set, Spider-Man overcame them, and everyone's since moved on. If Harry's so badly missed by editorial why not have some more surprises for Pete pop up every so often?

Now that I've expressed my views on what's been changed as far as what's been done with said changes doesn't make it any better. First off despite Harry being back, and his two lady friends not being featured all that prominently, the stories themselves are nothing special. Spider-Man dealing with a fellow female vigilante that's being teased as a love interest is nothing new. Also him being up in her face and not able to determine if she's Mary Jane or not is just bad. We have a Goblin based supervillain shrouded in mystery. This too has been done more than a few times. The funny thing is so far three out of the four writers that have been used have all written stories I love. But the book leaves a lot to be desired, and I've read enough older Spider-Man stories from Dematteis and Stern on top of being an avid Waid fan that I'm not really holding my breath with this new direction.

Michael Ayers
Bear, DE
 
If you're expecting that to see print, you may want to cut it down a bit--that may be too long to fit on a letters page.
 
ASM #557 - the Amazing Spider-Mail

"Will any of you be pleased? Can any of you be pleased? Where will you be pleased? Only YOU can answer those questions...and when you do, we'll run as many answers as we can right here in the Amazing Spider-Mail.....
....Thanks again to everyone for joining us so far...Now go get readin'! Go get angry! and go get typin'!" Viva Templar! -Simperin' Steve, 3/25/08

[email protected]

Was that really on the letter's page? If so I guess there is plenty of negative mail despite what we've been told.
 
Was that really on the letter's page? If so I guess there is plenty of negative mail despite what we've been told.

They're not shy to say that they get plenty of hate mail on the BND pages. Heck, they do print some real nasty ones.

Although, the nasty ones don't recieve a response conveniently :rolleyes:

I really appreciate that they're not scared to print hate mail, (Stan did it back in the day, as did McFarlane with his solo Spidey run,) but those guys did actually write out detailed/honest/fair responses

Wacker is just copping out IMO.
 
They're not shy to say that they get plenty of hate mail on the BND pages. Heck, they do print some real nasty ones.

Although, the nasty ones don't recieve a response conveniently :rolleyes:

I really appreciate that they're not scared to print hate mail, (Stan did it back in the day, as did McFarlane with his solo Spidey run,) but those guys did actually write out detailed/honest/fair responses

Wacker is just copping out IMO.

Huh, that's pretty cool. I've always thought wacker seemed like a pretty stand up guy.

I don't think nasty comments deserve a response either, honest grievences are cool but you've got to give respect to get it you know?

The comment does sound a bit childish and a little like someone throwing their hands up about the matter.
 
Huh, that's pretty cool. I've always thought wacker seemed like a pretty stand up guy.

I don't think nasty comments deserve a response either, honest grievences are cool but you've got to give respect to get it you know?

The comment does sound a bit childish and a little like someone throwing their hands up about the matter.

Actually, when you say it like that, it does make sense.

I do like Wacker as well.
 
Just posted this in the Black Cat thread, modified it, and e-mailed it to the Spidey office:

Hi guys :) Just thought I’d give you a shout about something that’s driving me nuts, and hopefully I’ll get a response in some form or manner. I’m finding this really bizaare as I’m actually a Marvel licensee, and put on Marvel exhibitions and do lots of corporate work here in the UK. Well, anyhoo, here goes. It’s re: the cat being put back in the bag of Peter’s identity.

I don't want this to turn into an entire OMD bashing thing, but I was having a chat with the editor of Impact magazine, and he recently published an article on OMD/BND.

There's been a lot of petty *****ing about crap, but I think this is very worthy. While we don't know what's the deal with MJ is yet, (I bloody well hope SHE remembers Peter is Spider-Man, otherwise even I may drop ASM :() but what the fudge is going on with the whole Felicia thing?

As ridiculous as the whole unmasking/re-masking thing is, you can go along with it in terms of storytelling and enjoying the writing. It's stupid, but you can go along for the ride currently.

But what the heck is going on with the Black Cat?????!!!?? She lived with Peter for donkey's, had a huge relationship with him, and has been synonymously tied to him for decades. She's known he's Peter a heck of a lot longer than she didn't. That pretty much defined their entire relationship. That's always been the big difference between them and the Bruce/Selina relationship. Peter/Felicia have known who each and other are and been a lot closer pretty much right from the start.

If she can't remember who the love of her life is and why she did most of the things she's done throughout her entire 20's, shouldn't she be having some sort of a nervous breakdown right now?

I know I would.

Excelsior!
 
They're not shy to say that they get plenty of hate mail on the BND pages. Heck, they do print some real nasty ones.

Although, the nasty ones don't recieve a response conveniently :rolleyes:

I really appreciate that they're not scared to print hate mail, (Stan did it back in the day, as did McFarlane with his solo Spidey run,) but those guys did actually write out detailed/honest/fair responses

Wacker is just copping out IMO.

They printed alot of hate-mail during the Clone Saga. I remember one in particular right around when Reilly donned the Spidey costume. It took the political tone of...

"I know Spider-Man. Spider-Man is a friend of mine. You, Ben Reilly, are NO Spider-Man."

I think the response was similar to my own here... ouch!


Curiously hate-mail was missing during the even worse relaunch and Chapter One fiasco. Strange that. I believe Byrne, the living ego, decided none shall question his greatness. :whatever:

Anyway back to the topic... Ask Wacker where Harry fits in Quesada's "dead means dead" rule.
 
They printed alot of hate-mail during the Clone Saga. I remember one in particular right around when Reilly donned the Spidey costume. It took the political tone of...

"I know Spider-Man. Spider-Man is a friend of mine. You, Ben Reilly, are NO Spider-Man."

I think the response was similar to my own here... ouch!


Curiously hate-mail was missing during the even worse relaunch and Chapter One fiasco. Strange that. I believe Byrne, the living ego, decided none shall question his greatness. :whatever:

Anyway back to the topic... Ask Wacker where Harry fits in Quesada's "dead means dead" rule.


Aloha,
I think Harry is a demon or agent of Mephisto.
Spidey rules
 
Ask Wacker where Harry fits in Quesada's "dead means dead" rule.

Actually, JQ has gone on to say officially that, 'he changed his mind.' :(

But I really like the, 'Harry is a demon angle.'

Wacker and JQ habe gone on the record to say that 'you don't make a deal with the devil without him throwing you a curveball.

:wow:
 
I think the smarter play would be, like I thought JQ said somewhere, to never even mention Mephisto again. Making Harry his proxy would just re-open all those wounds when it's revealed. I don't know. Would that be better or worse for those of you who hated that Harry was a part of BND?
 
Great letter! Even if they don't print it, they'll read it and that's more important. Good job!

And here's my letter.




Well I can only speak for myself on this subject, but hopefully you guys will take this letter among all other under consideration if you're asking what it will take to be please us.

Through JMS's run on Spider-Man and on various lower tier Spider books during that time period (Peter Parker, Spectacular, Unlimited MK/Sensational, and Friendly Neighborhood) I for the most part was satisfied. I even enjoyed certain stories that didn't receive warm receptions such as Sins Past. I also loved that in the past few years Spider-Man's significance with the superhero community and the Marvel Universe has increased. That only made sense since he's Marvel's flagship character.

Now on the subject of One More Day and Brand New Day. From the beginning I dreaded this story being told. Joe Quesada once again made comments about doing away with the marriage and bringing Spider-Man back to his roots. Don't get me wrong I'm indifferent about Mary Jane and the marriage as a whole, but I also felt that without it really hurting the stories that it would be bad for anyone to go out of their way to break them up. Mary Jane seemingly died in a plane explosion a few years back, and people just kept asking when she'll be back. I also feared that with the talks of Spider-Man going to his "roots" would mean regression to his character and status quo. This is the same man that said that as long as he's in charge Ultimate Spider-Man will stay in highschool. He would also use Ultimate Spider-Man as his rationale to keep him single. He also said at a panel at Wizard World in 2006 that if he's dating Kitty Pryde in the Ultimate Universe there's no reason he can't do that in the Marvel Universe.

Well, why would I need to continue reading USM when I'm getting more of the same three times a month with Amazing Spider-Man? Comics aren't getting cheaper, so maybe I should just drop Amazing altogether when it's just cheaper to read Ultimate Spider-Man. This is just like Vince McMahon ressurecting ECW, and treating it like an alternat product, then just making it the third WWE brand.

So now we've got three versions of Spider-Man (Marvel Adventures also) that for the time being won't grow or evolve beyond a certain status quo, when this is a character that since the beginning was all about change and moving forward. Well he's back to living with his aunt, taking pictures for the Bugle, and single but his romantic escapades won't add up to anything to the story since we know any girl he's with won't last.

Also why take away his new powers from The Other? Not only were the majority of them not given any attention since the last issue of that crossover, but such a big deal was made out of it in the months leading up to it. Yes, I admit the wrist stingers might've been a bit much but writers don't always have to undo things they don't like just not give that so much focus when telling the story. The same with the marriage.

And on to undoing the unmasking. This I think causes the most problems due to it not being a self contained event, but something the entire world saw. To say that everyone remembers Spider-Man unamasking but not who it was just doesn't fly. The fact that people remember it happening, but no one remembering who did it should have them questioning why they don't recall it. And this sort of manipulation on a worldwide scale. Also after Aunt May got shot, I felt Peter did a good job of establishing he wasn't someone to mess with. I know that wouldn't stop the occasional nut coming after his loved ones, but enough of Spider-Man's villains knew who he was and went after friends and family from time to time. What about the new identity Peter set up for himself in Friendly Neighborhood? Ofcourse people knew Peter was Spider-Man, but it wasn't common knowledge that Peter was Ben Reilly.

Next Harry Osborn coming back. Why? I read a quote or two from Quesada saying the book was more fun with him around. Really? I always saw him as just another of Peter's friends only this one was fashioned to become a villain after his father's death. After he died he still had a few traps set, Spider-Man overcame them, and everyone's since moved on. If Harry's so badly missed by editorial why not have some more surprises for Pete pop up every so often?

Now that I've expressed my views on what's been changed as far as what's been done with said changes doesn't make it any better. First off despite Harry being back, and his two lady friends not being featured all that prominently, the stories themselves are nothing special. Spider-Man dealing with a fellow female vigilante that's being teased as a love interest is nothing new. Also him being up in her face and not able to determine if she's Mary Jane or not is just bad. We have a Goblin based supervillain shrouded in mystery. This too has been done more than a few times. The funny thing is so far three out of the four writers that have been used have all written stories I love. But the book leaves a lot to be desired, and I've read enough older Spider-Man stories from Dematteis and Stern on top of being an avid Waid fan that I'm not really holding my breath with this new direction.

Michael Ayers
Bear, DE
 
I think the smarter play would be, like I thought JQ said somewhere, to never even mention Mephisto again. Making Harry his proxy would just re-open all those wounds when it's revealed. I don't know. Would that be better or worse for those of you who hated that Harry was a part of BND?

Yeah, I'd have to say if harry's a demon (unless that's the spring board to undo the fiasco) it would just get worse. I highly doubt they want to really bring OMD back into the spotlight in that way.

Personally Harry being back is the thing I mind least about the BND developments. I do think it makes the amazing sendoff he had cheap, but I like harry as a character. The way he was brought back doesn't really make sense (no one spends that much time in rehab, especially no one that rich) but it's the least of the troubles and I can put it out of my mind fairly easily.

And considering how they spoke about the brainstorming session I don't think there's much of a chance of it. Joe wanted gwen, he was voted down so they're using harry instead, so unless it was demon gwen from the start (which I doubt) then harry's just harry.
 
Well, he could have lived in Europe 'finding himself' after re-hab. He did say marriage(s), so maybe he was living in a castle somewhere.
 
I think the smarter play would be, like I thought JQ said somewhere, to never even mention Mephisto again. Making Harry his proxy would just re-open all those wounds when it's revealed. I don't know. Would that be better or worse for those of you who hated that Harry was a part of BND?

I think that Harry and Mary Jane will reunite (seeing as they used to date when Pete was with Gwen), and wouldn't that just be the smarting arrow through Peter's heart.... hence, his return (on Mephisto's part) without dwelving too much with Mephisto.

:yay:
 
I mean, what does Wacker or any of them expect?

You do a very controversial reboot, take away a fan favorite aspect (The marriage), spit at continuity, all during a time of economical trouble.

Clone Saga sank on its own.

This will too. It may just get uglier tho, due to the "times".

"The customer is always wrong", is not a motto that will fly well, especially right now, imo. Joe should reverse this mistake/mess immediately and apoligize for thumbing his nose at the majority of the fans. Bring back what works.
No experiments or personal agendas.
 
Yeah, and by the way, explain to the share-holders why he's dumping a title selling 250K a month for one selling 100K. Good Luck with that.
 
Great letter! Even if they don't print it, they'll read it and that's more important. Good job!

That's all I really want. Although upon rereading it, I should've done some proof reading. Lesson learned.
 
And here's my letter.




Well I can only speak for myself on this subject, but hopefully you guys will take this letter among all other under consideration if you're asking what it will take to be please us.

Through JMS's run on Spider-Man and on various lower tier Spider books during that time period (Peter Parker, Spectacular, Unlimited MK/Sensational, and Friendly Neighborhood) I for the most part was satisfied. I even enjoyed certain stories that didn't receive warm receptions such as Sins Past. I also loved that in the past few years Spider-Man's significance with the superhero community and the Marvel Universe has increased. That only made sense since he's Marvel's flagship character.

Now on the subject of One More Day and Brand New Day. From the beginning I dreaded this story being told. Joe Quesada once again made comments about doing away with the marriage and bringing Spider-Man back to his roots. Don't get me wrong I'm indifferent about Mary Jane and the marriage as a whole, but I also felt that without it really hurting the stories that it would be bad for anyone to go out of their way to break them up. Mary Jane seemingly died in a plane explosion a few years back, and people just kept asking when she'll be back. I also feared that with the talks of Spider-Man going to his "roots" would mean regression to his character and status quo. This is the same man that said that as long as he's in charge Ultimate Spider-Man will stay in highschool. He would also use Ultimate Spider-Man as his rationale to keep him single. He also said at a panel at Wizard World in 2006 that if he's dating Kitty Pryde in the Ultimate Universe there's no reason he can't do that in the Marvel Universe.

Well, why would I need to continue reading USM when I'm getting more of the same three times a month with Amazing Spider-Man? Comics aren't getting cheaper, so maybe I should just drop Amazing altogether when it's just cheaper to read Ultimate Spider-Man. This is just like Vince McMahon ressurecting ECW, and treating it like an alternat product, then just making it the third WWE brand.

So now we've got three versions of Spider-Man (Marvel Adventures also) that for the time being won't grow or evolve beyond a certain status quo, when this is a character that since the beginning was all about change and moving forward. Well he's back to living with his aunt, taking pictures for the Bugle, and single but his romantic escapades won't add up to anything to the story since we know any girl he's with won't last.

Also why take away his new powers from The Other? Not only were the majority of them not given any attention since the last issue of that crossover, but such a big deal was made out of it in the months leading up to it. Yes, I admit the wrist stingers might've been a bit much but writers don't always have to undo things they don't like just not give that so much focus when telling the story. The same with the marriage.

And on to undoing the unmasking. This I think causes the most problems due to it not being a self contained event, but something the entire world saw. To say that everyone remembers Spider-Man unamasking but not who it was just doesn't fly. The fact that people remember it happening, but no one remembering who did it should have them questioning why they don't recall it. And this sort of manipulation on a worldwide scale. Also after Aunt May got shot, I felt Peter did a good job of establishing he wasn't someone to mess with. I know that wouldn't stop the occasional nut coming after his loved ones, but enough of Spider-Man's villains knew who he was and went after friends and family from time to time. What about the new identity Peter set up for himself in Friendly Neighborhood? Ofcourse people knew Peter was Spider-Man, but it wasn't common knowledge that Peter was Ben Reilly.

Next Harry Osborn coming back. Why? I read a quote or two from Quesada saying the book was more fun with him around. Really? I always saw him as just another of Peter's friends only this one was fashioned to become a villain after his father's death. After he died he still had a few traps set, Spider-Man overcame them, and everyone's since moved on. If Harry's so badly missed by editorial why not have some more surprises for Pete pop up every so often?

Now that I've expressed my views on what's been changed as far as what's been done with said changes doesn't make it any better. First off despite Harry being back, and his two lady friends not being featured all that prominently, the stories themselves are nothing special. Spider-Man dealing with a fellow female vigilante that's being teased as a love interest is nothing new. Also him being up in her face and not able to determine if she's Mary Jane or not is just bad. We have a Goblin based supervillain shrouded in mystery. This too has been done more than a few times. The funny thing is so far three out of the four writers that have been used have all written stories I love. But the book leaves a lot to be desired, and I've read enough older Spider-Man stories from Dematteis and Stern on top of being an avid Waid fan that I'm not really holding my breath with this new direction.

Michael Ayers
Bear, DE

Bravo. :up:
 
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Aloha,
I think Harry is a demon or agent of Mephisto.
Spidey rules

I've been thinking about that alot lately. I mean, we can all agree that Harry was basically a good person, right? Sure, he had some mental and emotional issues, but that was because of his abusive father.

So...dont good people go to heaven when they die? How does Mephisto have the ability to snatch a good soul out of heaven and place it back on earth?
 

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