Stylistically Connected

da creole kid said:
jaguarr- Here is a query are animals (non-humans) artistic?

Some could have that perspective, sure.

jag
 
Are you asking me to define evolution for you? In what context? I think I see where you're going with this and I'm not sure that I agree with the analogy.

jag
 
I always felt Seven and Saw had a similar feel to it. Not necessarily plot-wise, just feel wise.
 
jaguarr

It is like "2001: A Space Odyssey"- You touch the face of God and you can no longer exist as the same exact being.

Now as an Agnostic, I recognize that God is atleast a definition of a creative force. And evolution is genetic process of that same force, and the art is a being's intelligence aplied to that same force.

It may not be always be original but it is and was something else. (Alligators may not have evolved much but they were once the same amoeba we were).
 
Ahhh, but was I was initially discussing was the ABILITY of an "artist" to evolve something much further past the state in which they found it by impressing their own ideas and vision upon it. If they fail to do that, and simply regurgitate a slightly abhorred variation or facsimile of that which they were starting their idea from, then it isn't art in my eyes, it's mimicry.

jag
 
More movies that are similar to other works:

-"Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit" = every single werewolf movie ever made ("The Wolf Man", "The Howling", "Cursed", "An American Werewolf in London"...)

-"Night Watch" = "Buffy" AND "Angel"

-"Psycho Beach Party" = "Me, Myself & Irene"

-"Date Movie" and "Not Another Teen Movie" = "Scary Movie"

-"The Medallion" = "The Crow"

-"Brazil" = "1984"

-"Equilibrium" = "Fahrenheit 451"

-"Critters", "Ghoulies", "Hobgoblins" and "Munchies" = "Gremlins"

-"Boy Eats Girl" = "My Boyfriend's Back"

-"Spirited Away" = "Alice in Wonderland"

-"A Cock and Bull Story" = "Adaptation"

-"Mac and Me" = "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial"
 
thealiasman2000 said:
More movies that are similar to other works:

-"Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit" = every single werewolf movie ever made ("The Wolf Man", "The Howling", "Cursed", "An American Werewolf in London"...)

-"Night Watch" = "Buffy" AND "Angel"

-"Psycho Beach Party" = "Me, Myself & Irene"

-"Date Movie" and "Not Another Teen Movie" = "Scary Movie"

-"The Medallion" = "The Crow"

-"Brazil" = "1984"

-"Equilibrium" = "Fahrenheit 451"

-"Critters", "Ghoulies", "Hobgoblins" and "Munchies" = "Gremlins"

-"Boy Eats Girl" = "My Boyfriend's Back"

-"Spirited Away" = "Alice in Wonderland"

-"A Cock and Bull Story" = "Adaptation"

-"Mac and Me" = "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial"
your comparisons are very limited, you should at least try more challenging comparisons and not limiting them to opinionated listings

I see more stylistic similarities between nightwatch and 28 days later, specially when it comes to editing and art direction

date movie, not another teen movie and scary movie are obviously parody movies so there's bound to be similar elements in their nature, the same with ghoulies, munchies, gremilins, etc. and spirited away and alice in wonderland, it's similar themes

make it more challenging and don't limit yourself to "well, they have similar thematic elements, so they must be rip offs"

although, you do have some points here:

Brazil and 1984 are similar storywise, of course, but in style?
equilibrium and farenheit, obvious too, but in style I'd say equilibrium is closer to the matrix (here lies the style)

nice try, but try harder
 
Sin City's style is heavly inspired by the Film Noir movies of the 40s and 50s, such as The Big Sleep or Maltese Falcon except it takes it to the extreme in terms of lighting and what not, and uses it bits of color to further contrast with the dark colors of noir.

I'd say that Batman 89', Crow, and even Minority Report are again all inspired by Noir, in the sense that it takes that gritty's 50s look along with the shadow, lighting, and dark color scheme, and updates it to a modern-day aesthetic. They also take another idea from the 50s and older movies by shooting in studio(This is referencing only Batman 89 and The Crow) like movies like Singing in the Rain did, which produces the effect of a kind of hyper reality, but instead of making it very happy with bright colors and things like that, they use the sets to make a very clastrophobic feeling that could never really be real life.

But like I said a lot of the movies mentioned here are children of Noir, or the evolution there of...
 
PLAS said:
your comparisons are very limited, you should at least try more challenging comparisons and not limiting them to opinionated listings

I see more stylistic similarities between nightwatch and 28 days later, specially when it comes to editing and art direction

date movie, not another teen movie and scary movie are obviously parody movies so there's bound to be similar elements in their nature, the same with ghoulies, munchies, gremilins, etc. and spirited away and alice in wonderland, it's similar themes

make it more challenging and don't limit yourself to "well, they have similar thematic elements, so they must be rip offs"

although, you do have some points here:

Brazil and 1984 are similar storywise, of course, but in style?
equilibrium and farenheit, obvious too, but in style I'd say equilibrium is closer to the matrix (here lies the style)

nice try, but try harder

Like I said before I don't think he understands the meaning of style in which case it means visual style, at least that's how I interpretted as, and not so much storywise.
 
Truthteller said:
Flight Plan is more like The Lady Vanishes (early Hitchcock) than it is Red Eye.

In fact they use one of the same plot devices (the drawing on a breath steamed window) in Flight Plan and Vanishes. This was an obvious direct reference to The Lady Vanishes (and nicely done as well). Vanishes takes place on a train rather than a jet.

Red Eye is more like 24 maybe.

Red Eye the first three quarters is more like Phone Booth... Though they have different morals and different stories, the style is inherently the same. Character is set up in the first 10 minutes, then gets into place where the rest of hte movie takes place, and the person can't leave, til the resolve at hte end. The last 20 minutes is more like a bad slasher flick :(
 
A Series of Unfortunate Events and Nanny McPhee are very stylistically connected.

Dark Crystal and Return to Oz too.
 

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