Superman ComicsTaking ideas from the movie/media???

[Spike_x1]

Nope Batmans actually older if I remember my postcrisis history.... Batman/Bruce may be close to his early 40s even.

Clark is late 30s for sure.

That's right. Bruce Wayne is older than Clark, but Clark started his superhero career first.

 

[Kane]

Jamal basically said the suit will evolve...meaning compared to the way it looked like in that recent issue I showed.....it will look even more different (more like SR) in the new run of Action Comics.

So we'll see.

 

[Kane]

That's right. Bruce Wayne is older than Clark, but Clark started his superhero career first.

Yep

 

[Kane]

Superman Returns has already been done anyways:

 

[Spike_x1]

Jamal basically said the suit will evolve...meaning compared to the way it looked like in that recent issue I showed.....it will look even more different (more like SR) in the new run of Action Comics.

So we'll see.

I hope that, by the word "evolve," he actually meant "go the hell back to the way it was." I'm perfectly fine with the raised , but I want the collar and sleeves to go back to the level they were at before. And the moment I see the brownish-purple replace the classic red in Supes' costume, an \S/ in his belt buckle, the \S/ on his cape vanish, and his trunks & boots suddenly shrink three sizes, well... I'll be mighty pissed off.

They've already *****fied most of my favorite villains, removed almost all of the supporting cast at the Daily Planet, have started to go back to the train of thinking that includes a traincar's worth of kryptonite-plot device, and forgotten the 90's years of continuity had ever happened. I find my disappointment slowly increasing over the years, and yet I keep coming back and hoping that they stop trying to "fix" things that were never broken.

 

[Kane]

Everythings reverting back to the Earth 1 silverage....thats what it seems.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Superman's S has to be big and brazen. Big enough so when crooks see it comin' they go ****!

I never cared fer th' one on the cape, personally. Unecessary.

 

[Spike_x1]

Superman's S has to be big and brazen. Big enough so when crooks see it comin' they go ****!

I never cared fer th' one on the cape, personally. Unecessary.

Blaspheme!

Who can argue with the cape's \S/ when you get shots like this?

Without the S, it's just a boring red cloth. If you really want to talk about unnecessary, then what's the point of the cape in the first place?

 

[Orko Is King]

I know that it's not something being copied from SR, but why are Superman's sleeves elongated over his wrists and onto his hands like that?

Dunno. It looks kinda cool, but how does he keep them from coming out from under his shirt sleeves?

 

[Kane]

The \S/ on the cape was removed from the movie for athestic reasons. There are some long intense flying sequences and when the shape of the cape gets distorted by the wind and then the yellow \S/ looks like a big stain on the cape....it doesnt look right.

Its cool for the comics, not for modern live action.

 

[Kane]

Honestly, if the suit looks like this in the comics for a while...I wouldnt mind:

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

It works just fine without it in the cartoon. Ya don't need it on th' cape.

An' th' point of th' cape was it was cool in th' 30s. But nobody will let DC get rid of them or those stupid trunks.

 

[Spike_x1]

The \S/ on the cape was removed from the movie for athestic reasons. There are some long intense flying sequences and when the shape of the cape gets distorted by the wind and then the yellow \S/ looks like a big stain on the cape....it doesnt look right.

Its cool for the comics, not for modern live action.

That's not the reason that I read from Singer. He stated that it was removed because it wasn't cost effective to animate it during the flying sequences (BS! WTF else are they supposed to spend that $250 million on?) and that it would look too much like a billboard to have another big \S/ on Superman (another load of BS, because time and time again, the production has brought up the subject all the tiny S's throughout the costume, not to mention the one especially created for the belt buckle).

It works just fine without it in the cartoon. Ya don't need it on th' cape.

Not really. It still looks like a kid who just tied a plain red blanket around his neck. It's just the fact that most people are used to seeing the cape like that in the cartoon. It still lacks all the visual character that the S would've brought if they had animated it, but it can be forgiven because it would have proven far too difficult to constantly animate the flowing \S/ in every single episode on a tv budget.

An' th' point of th' cape was it was cool in th' 30s. But nobody will let DC get rid of them or those stupid trunks.

Is there anything that you do like about the regular Superman costume? The one from the comics, I mean. Not the perfect one you fantasize about.

 

[Kane]

That's not the reason that I read from Singer. He stated that it was removed because it wasn't cost effective to animate it during the flying sequences (BS! WTF else are they supposed to spend that $250 million on?) and that it would look too much like a biilboard to have another big \S/ on Superman (another load of BS, because time and time again, the production has brought up the subject all the tiny S's throughout the costume, not to mention the one especially created for the belt buckle).

You know there are SHH members that still hate Batman Begins just because of the costume being different from the comics...

What translates on screen usually needs to be different than the paper. Yes, the cost with animating the Yellow \S/ on the cape was part of it but it would have looked needlessly bad since the cape is in constant movement....the yellow \S/ is constantly distorted...looking like an ink stain.

The shield made sense. They wanted a raised shield....thats fine. Because it was a seperate raised armored shield, it WOULD have looked billboard-like if it was bigger (and constrained Routh's movements). It would have only worked as big if it wasnt armor (not raised) and part of the suit...that wasnt the look they wanted though.

The Chris Reeve suit looked good for its time, but watching it over now...it looked like a cheesy halloween costume on screen....wouldnt work in a 200 million dollar picture. Dean Cain and Micheal O'Hearn were the most recent guys to wear the costume based off the comics (O'Hearn's identical to Reeve's) and it still looked incredibly lame.

Changes needed to have been made. We cant really judge it for certain till we see it in action in the film..but comicbook fans need to accept that for live motion pictures, the costumes need to be adapted. If not, we would have had the X-men running around in lame yellow spandex on screen.

 

[Spike_x1]

You know there are SHH members that still hate Batman Begins just because of the costume being different from the comics...

What translates on screen usually needs to be different than the paper. Yes, the cost with animating the Yellow \S/ on the cape was part of it but it would have looked needlessly bad since the cape is in constant movement....the yellow \S/ is constantly distorted...looking like an ink stain.

So perhaps all the flags in the world should just be one simple flat color because their individual designs look like "ink stains" when they flap in the wind?

The shield made sense. They wanted a raised shield....thats fine. Because it was a seperate raised armored shield, it WOULD have looked billboard-like if it was bigger (and constrained Routh's movements). It would have only worked as big if it wasnt armor (not raised) and part of the suit...that wasnt the look they wanted though.

The Chris Reeve suit looked good for its time, but watching it over now...it looked like a cheesy halloween costume on screen....wouldnt work in a 200 million dollar picture. Dean Cain and Micheal O'Hearn were the most recent guys to wear the costume based off the comics (O'Hearn's identical to Reeve's) and it still looked incredibly lame.

Changes needed to have been made. We cant really judge it for certain till we see it in action in the film..but comicbook fans need to accept that for live motion pictures, the costumes need to be adapted. If not, we would have had the X-men running around in lame yellow spandex on screen.

Okay, before you go any further, I should say something: I don't really care that much about the changes made for the costume in SR. This conversation was supposed to be about whether or not those changes should be translated into the comics, not about why the changes were made in the first place (which doesn't matter at all. All that matters is the end result).

As for the \S/ on the back of the cape, as you said earlier, it works in the comics. That's all the reason anyone should need to keep it there.

 

[Tropico]

You know there are SHH members that still hate Batman Begins just because of the costume being different from the comics...

What translates on screen usually needs to be different than the paper. Yes, the cost with animating the Yellow \S/ on the cape was part of it but it would have looked needlessly bad since the cape is in constant movement....the yellow \S/ is constantly distorted...looking like an ink stain.

The shield made sense. They wanted a raised shield....thats fine. Because it was a seperate raised armored shield, it WOULD have looked billboard-like if it was bigger (and constrained Routh's movements). It would have only worked as big if it wasnt armor (not raised) and part of the suit...that wasnt the look they wanted though.

The Chris Reeve suit looked good for its time, but watching it over now...it looked like a cheesy halloween costume on screen....wouldnt work in a 200 million dollar picture. Dean Cain and Micheal O'Hearn were the most recent guys to wear the costume based off the comics (O'Hearn's identical to Reeve's) and it still looked incredibly lame.

Changes needed to have been made. We cant really judge it for certain till we see it in action in the film..but comicbook fans need to accept that for live motion pictures, the costumes need to be adapted. If not, we would have had the X-men running around in lame yellow spandex on screen.

I totally agree with you on the changes being made for live action movies (please notice that I made the distinction and not used the generic: 'movie'). I can see how some costumes should be altered but at the same time I can tell you that the same adaptations can look incredibly lame (DD, anyone?).

I'll also admit that this is a matter of opinion the same as someone saying that a look I find perfectly ok is "incredibly lame". Superman's chest emblem doesn't have to be as incredibly big as you've made them in your avatar, but it also doesn't have to be as small as it is in the current costume.

You support changes made for the movies and I can agree with that. I don't think that what works on the movie works for comics. They're 2 different mediums and comics shouldn't have to hold back just so they can be like the movies. I'm very glad the X-Men ditched their movie look and went back to comic-verse costumes and I also know that many of the creatice teams and fans share the same vision.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I have no problem with changes fer movies. I have problems with bad designs. Th' SR suit is a BAD design.

And DD's suit rocked.

 

[Kane]

Okay, before you go any further, I should say something: I don't really care that much about the changes made for the costume in SR. This conversation was supposed to be about whether or not those changes should be translated into the comics, not about why the changes were made in the first place (which doesn't matter at all. All that matters is the end result).

Dude. Its obvious it wont be a permenant change to the comics. Like everything in the comics, theyll try it out...and see how it works, if it isnt working....it will stop.

Theres soooooo many costume changes for OYL that will take some getting used to. If they arent popular enough though, they'll likely be changed to normal.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dont bag on it till you see it. I cant wait for the October Action Comics.

I have seen it. New trailers for Superman Returns have been popping up like weeds lately.

Anyway, I think Superman's costume is the one costume in comics that never, ever needs to be messed with. Embossed "S" symbol, flat "S" symbol, whatever; that's just a stylistic choice, and I've seen artists render the red portions as if they're embossed for years. So long as the basic elements of the costume remain the same and the "S" symbol isn't shrunken to microscopic proportions like in the movie, I'll be fine with whatever changes they want to make.

 

[kieron39]

well as long as they dont change the boots to the ones in the movie, those things are Fugly

 

[kieron39]

i jus read the lastest arc in the up up and away story line, is it me or they borrowing from the movie again with luthor growing krptonian crystals n stuff like from the movie is going to do. except luthor's got a space ship.?

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

yeah...I noticed that too.

 

[Spike_x1]

i jus read the lastest arc in the up up and away story line, is it me or they borrowing from the movie again with luthor growing krptonian crystals n stuff like from the movie is going to do. except luthor's got a space ship.?

Yep.

I really don't like Crystal Krypton's explosion in exposure lately. In the first movie it was fine, but now Smallville's gone nuts with it and SR's really going to go nuts with it, and now the comics have adapted it.

 

[kieron39]

wat was the kryptonian based artifact and FOS in the comics based of before? i never really saw much of it, but i know all star superman is different. which is kinda good.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Worse than that, it looks like the movie's goofy, over-the-top Luthor is seeping into the comics' version. I thought the original Superman movies were all right but certainly not the legendary, iconic portrayal of Superman that others view them as (maybe I was too far removed from their original release dates), and I absolutely loathed their portrayal of Lex Luthor. Even now, when I watch the Superman movies, I have to watch the movie thinking, "Wow, Gene Hackman's sure making an ass of himself playing some guy who looks like Lex," to enjoy them at all. I really, really hope the maniacal Luthor shown in "Up, Up, and Away" is replaced by a cooler, more subtle Luthor soon.